Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part VI

[New User Name]

His girlfriend lives with Trouba, lived with him last year in Winnipeg. Now she wants to go to medschool but can't go because she is Australian and needs his US citizen husband to live in USA in order to get into medschool.

Who you think is unreasonable here? It sure ain't the Winnipeg Jets.

Maybe he could take out Canadian citizenship so she can apply to a Canadian university

That seems like a stupid requirement that he needs to live full time in the states for her to go to med school.

I think there's more to the story then we're being told.

Canadian med schools have foreign students.......I don't get it.

 

[CaptainChef]

When Brian Burke (an American) was GM of the Canucks, Peter Zezel (RIP) requested a trade (not demanded) to Toronto or Buffalo because his niece (Jilliann RIP) was dying and Burke being the dick he is traded him to the Ducks.

http://www.canoe.ca/HockeyAnaheimArchive/apr2_simmons.html

Don't talk to me about compassion.

And what ... Burke appears to be a compassionate fellow

As for having compassion for Trouba, not. He's got a dink for an agent, and they haven't come clean or even close to clean yet about why he wants out. Then out of the blue, he doesn't want anywhere in Canada. Can't believe a lot thats said there.

Harmonic has a solid reputation & came clean all the way; no comparison there whatsoever.

 

[Talisman]

What is this. Olli maatta for Trouba?:...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMM4ntbAVrH/

 

[Ducks in a row]

His girlfriend lives with Trouba, lived with him last year in Winnipeg. Now she wants to go to medschool but can't go because she is Australian and needs his US citizen husband to live in USA in order to get into medschool.

Who you think is unreasonable here? It sure ain't the Winnipeg Jets.

If they refuse to trade him to a U.S. team and it effects their relationship and her ability to get into med school I would say Jets are being unreasonable by not trading him when he has made it known he wants to be traded.

Who is to gauge what is reasonable. I'm sure if Detroit (or one of the other cities Trouba has deemed attractive) had stepped up with what the Jets thought was fair value, a deal would be done by now.

Well I don't know what exactly the offers have been. Do you think it is at all possible Jets are being unreasonable?

 

[Flyerfan52]

If they refuse to trade him to a U.S. team and it effects their relationship and her ability to get into med school I would say Jets are being unreasonable by not trading him when he has made it known he wants to be traded.

If their relationship is so weak & her credentials so bad that a Canadian school (who have a lot of students from abroad & have diplomas recognized world wide) won't accept her it's a rocky situation.
Let her get her med school diploma & he can play there @ 1/10 his NHL salary to support her if that's such an issue. Such a weak reason/attempted justification.

 

[cobra427]

And if the offers received are sub par to begin with, what's to lose?

They will be less than sub par now and worse in 3 weeks, not better.

 

[New User Name]

Seems it can be difficult for foreign students in US universities.

And the NUMBER ONE REASON.......lack of financial support.

http://premedusa.blogspot.ca/2013/05/medical-schools-admitting-internationals.html

With 5+ million yearly Mr Trouba seems like you can afford to finance your GF........looks like the second excuse is out the window

what was the first excuse......oh yeah

 

[Flyerfan52]

People tell me that I have better track of the players involved on both teams than most, and this is what I think is fair value and really helps both teams. At least if NYR isn't afraid to ice a bit of a weak forward crew.

To Winnipeg
Chris Kreider
JT Miller
Brady Skjei
Dylan McIlrath

To New York Rangers
Jacob Trouba
Nikolaj Ehlers

Winnipeg fans will say, no way Chevy deals Ehlers. Winnipeg fans will say, we don't need more forwards. NYR fans will say no way we deal Kreider,, he is our franchise player now, not to mention all three of Kreider, Miller and Skjei. Skjei alone is more than most other suitors can offer all together. And so forth and so forth.

But in the end, Winnipeg get 3 established players that brings along more winning experience than the entire Winnipeg roster together. Kreider has played in over 50 PO games and been in 3 conference finals and a Stanley cup final, Miller isn't far behind. From NYRs POV, let's be honest, the only reason Trouba is still on the table is that Canadian teams are vary of him, the extremely low growth of the cap the last handful of years AND the waiver draft. Most teams are scrambling to cut losses, not take on a big contract and another player. Chevys ask is perfectly reasonable, to get someone like Trouba you got to pay a hefty price. NYR is in need of PMDs, and especially right shooting PMDs just like Philly need that goaltender. NYR haven't been set in terms of PMDs since Leetch's days. Ehlers scoring ability is unproven and sure he is soft, but speed is the name of the game and he can help. Fair deal that certainly makes both teams better! One roster player out, and three young, cheap proven winners in for Winnipeg. NYR looses three players but get a top RD. Get it done Cheevy and Gorton, how hard can it be!

Are any of those 'people' hockey fans?

 

[Whileee]

If their relationship is so weak & her credentials so bad that a Canadian school (who have a lot of students from abroad & have diplomas recognized world wide) won't accept her it's a rocky situation.
Let her get her med school diploma & he can play there @ 1/10 his NHL salary to support her if that's such an issue. Such a weak reason/attempted justification.

You must be a Canadian citizen or permanent resident to apply to med school in Canada. It's different than other degree programs. Same is true at many or most US med schools - need to be a US citizen or permanent resident.

 

[Whileee]

What is this. Olli maatta for Trouba?:...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMM4ntbAVrH/

I see Overhardt is starting some rumors to stir things up. Sorry, Kurt. That dog won't hunt.

 

[Hunter368]

People tell me that I have better track of the players involved on both teams than most, and this is what I think is fair value and really helps both teams. At least if NYR isn't afraid to ice a bit of a weak forward crew.

To Winnipeg
Chris Kreider
JT Miller
Brady Skjei
Dylan McIlrath

To New York Rangers
Jacob Trouba
Nikolaj Ehlers

Winnipeg fans will say, no way Chevy deals Ehlers. Winnipeg fans will say, we don't need more forwards. NYR fans will say no way we deal Kreider,, he is our franchise player now, not to mention all three of Kreider, Miller and Skjei. Skjei alone is more than most other suitors can offer all together. And so forth and so forth.

But in the end, Winnipeg get 3 established players that brings along more winning experience than the entire Winnipeg roster together. Kreider has played in over 50 PO games and been in 3 conference finals and a Stanley cup final, Miller isn't far behind. From NYRs POV, let's be honest, the only reason Trouba is still on the table is that Canadian teams are vary of him, the extremely low growth of the cap the last handful of years AND the waiver draft. Most teams are scrambling to cut losses, not take on a big contract and another player. Chevys ask is perfectly reasonable, to get someone like Trouba you got to pay a hefty price. NYR is in need of PMDs, and especially right shooting PMDs just like Philly need that goaltender. NYR haven't been set in terms of PMDs since Leetch's days. Ehlers scoring ability is unproven and sure he is soft, but speed is the name of the game and he can help. Fair deal that certainly makes both teams better! One roster player out, and three young, cheap proven winners in for Winnipeg. NYR looses three players but get a top RD. Get it done Cheevy and Gorton, how hard can it be!

Dylan being offer? Why, he's waiver bait and no one even claimed him for free. Two good forwards we don't need and an OK D prospect.

Were maybe trading Trouba, certainly not Ehlers. We would take on too much cap in trade and players we don't need.


Bizarre and poorly thought out offer overall. Doubt either team does it, no thx.

 

[Paradise*]

They will be less than sub par now and worse in 3 weeks, not better.

Maybe here on HF.

Real NHL management? I highly doubt it.

 

[Hunter368]

Are any of those 'people' hockey fans?

Nope.

 

[Not Sure]

You must be a Canadian citizen or permanent resident to apply to med school in Canada. It's different than other degree programs. Same is true at many or most US med schools - need to be a US citizen or permanent resident.

It's not mandatory to be a US citizen or have residency, it's just more difficult because schools don't want to worry about whether a student can afford it, or even will be willing to stay and complete the program. In either case it's the citizenship of the applicant, having a boyfriend or husband who is not a citizen doesn't matter, and in any case Canadians are not considered international students for acceptance. That whole story seems made up. Unless the reason is that she wouldn't be able to get student loans or federal aid there's nothing stopping her from being accepted to a US medical school if she's a worthwhile candidate. Even if it was a money problem she'd just need an affidavit of support that her bill will be paid for. Family's can show they have enough money to continue paying for the education, I'd imagine someone making millions a year would be fine with a $30k school bill if it's that big of a deal.

http://premedusa.blogspot.com/2013/05/medical-schools-admitting-internationals.html?m=1

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

If their relationship is so weak & her credentials so bad that a Canadian school (who have a lot of students from abroad & have diplomas recognized world wide) won't accept her it's a rocky situation.
Let her get her med school diploma & he can play there @ 1/10 his NHL salary to support her if that's such an issue. Such a weak reason/attempted justification.

The only thing rocky here is your understanding of the Canadian education system.

There are 17 medical schools in Canada:

University of Alberta Faculty of Medicine and Dentistry- "We regret that we are unable to admit international students."
University of Calgary School of Medicine- "The faculty does not accept applications from individual international students."
University of British Columbia Faculty of Medicine- "We regret that we are unable to admit international students."
University of Manitoba College of Medicine- "Must be Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident of Canada at the time of application."

And on and on it goes.

The only exceptions outside of French-speaking Quebec are two in Atlantic Canada and three in Ontario- none of which are anywhere close to Winnipeg. Even then, of those, most only allow five out-of-province students a year, with a preference given to Canadians.

Trouba can either press the pause button on his NHL career OR relocate to his native US so that his significant other can live out her goals and ambitions. That would be a fair trade after putting hers on hold for the entirety of the time he's been in Winnipeg.

You may not agree with that call, but it is what it is and being "weak" or "bad" doesn't play into it.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

It's not mandatory to be a US citizen or have residency

Except that it actually is at the vast majority of them outside of Quebec, and certainly at U. Manitoba.

Taken right from their website, if you'd have done a second of research:

"Must be Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident of Canada at the time of application."

 

[kunekune]

Except that it actually is at the vast majority of them outside of Quebec, and certainly at U. Manitoba.

Taken right from their website, if you'd have done a second of research:

"Must be Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident of Canada at the time of application."

She lives in Winnipeg with her spouse who earns millions. Shouldn't it be just a formality for her to get status of permanent resident of Canada?

 

[cneely]

She lives in Winnipeg with her spouse who earns millions. Shouldn't it be just a formality for her to get status of permanent resident of Canada?

I don't know that they're married.
Even if they were, is Trouba a "permanent resident" or does he play on a visa? No idea how these things work.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

She lives in Winnipeg with her spouse who earns millions. Shouldn't it be just a formality for her to get status of permanent resident of Canada?

As an Australian national who is lining up to become the wife of an American citizen playing and living in Canada under his own work permit? It's not that simple, and would in fact complicate things even more for her. Visas and citizenship aren't just things that go away or change upon a whim; this isn't a video game. There are serious ramifications, and drawbacks to almost every scenario.

 

[Gm0ney]

This is Winnipeg. If Trouba signs here and his gf wants to go to UofM medical school, we'll make it happen. They can probably get provincial gambling revenues to foot the bill, too...

 

[Viqsi]

A lot of players have demanded trades because of significant others and they haven't been seen as a villain.

o rly

Ask Oil fans just how they feel about Chris Pronger, even ten years later and after his retirement. Go ahead. I dare you.

 

[Hunter368]

Clearly the lhd one for one is most desired trade, but also the hardest one to find. If we assume thus trade doesn't happen and yet Trouba is still traded best ones I've seen so far are (for trouba straight up):

Miller & Skjei (some posters also added a draft pick)

Or

Spooner & Carlo (some posters also added a draft pick)

Both give us lesser lhd but attempt to make up the difference by offering a 2nd line forward (some also add a pick). If either happened I wouldn't hate either trade. The play of Josh M is key here, lessens the pressure on Chevy to get a roster top 4 LHD in trade, IMO he can now afford to go for the best package while still including a LHD prospect.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

To piggyback on the last post,



JT Miller, Oscar Lindberg and Ryan Graves for Jacob Trouba would be my top offer.

 

[Not Sure]

Except that it actually is at the vast majority of them outside of Quebec, and certainly at U. Manitoba.

Taken right from their website, if you'd have done a second of research:

"Must be Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident of Canada at the time of application."

That's why I said American Medical schools accept international students. They just have to show ability to pay and a willingness to stay and complete. I wasn't talking about Canadian schools, he's on the road anyways, I doubt her transferring to a college in the US would be reason for him to demand a trade. Also the US recognizes Canadians different than other international students. I'm guessing Canada is the same way.

Living in Buffalo I have worked and been friends with a few people with dual citizenship, both ways. I've been told the process is much easier for a Canada/US citizenship then probably any other two countries. I've never been through the process but my girlfriend was born to a Canadian mother and American father and from what I've heard, with admittedly no research, if she wanted to claim her Canadian citizenship all it would take is enough money in the bank to show no financial burden on Canada, or a purchase of property north of the border.

If Trouba was willing to uproot his entire life for his girlfriend to have an easier time attending medical school would he just get married at that point and allow her to claim his US citizenship and/or Canadian residency?

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Wow just get a new girlfriend Jacob. Girls are pretty much everywhere these days.