Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part VI

[Maukkis]

My apologies!

Here:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bruins-will-listen-trade-offers-centre-ryan-spooner/

Cheers

The problem with that suggestion is that you won't see Chevy asking for Spooner, it's the other way round. There has to be a very, VERY big add on top of Spooner, because forwards aren't needed.

Spooner+Carlo+1st is a done deal in my books, easily. It changes our expansion system just enough to keep Spooner protected, and adds two pieces to our defense for the future. The question is, would Boston give up that much, or what would they have to get back on top of Trouba.

 

[Coach Parker]

I've always maintained (based off the Jets fans insight here as to what Chevy is asking for, not sure if they are sources in the last five threads but the banter towards the end of the last one deterred me from trying to sort through and find actual rumors) that there has to be three teams involved for the Bruins and Jets to once again do a major trade (Wheeler)

To Boston:

D Trouba

To Anaheim:

F Senyshyn
F Spooner
2017 2nd

To Winnipeg

D Fowler
D K.Miller

Basis of the deals being Spooner/Senyshyn, Trouba and Fowler.

 

[Hunter368]

The problem with that suggestion is that you won't see Chevy asking for Spooner, it's the other way round. There has to be a very, VERY big add on top of Spooner, because forwards aren't needed.

Spooner+Carlo+1st is a done deal in my books, easily. It changes our expansion system just enough to keep Spooner protected, and adds two pieces to our defense for the future. The question is, would Boston give up that much, or what would they have to get back on top of Trouba.

1st Rd pick at least makes it worth talking about. Curious how is Spooner on the PP.

 

[Maukkis]

I've always maintained (based off the Jets fans insight here as to what Chevy is asking for, not sure if they are sources in the last five threads but the banter towards the end of the last one deterred me from trying to sort through and find actual rumors) that there has to be three teams involved for the Bruins and Jets to once again do a major trade (Wheeler)

To Boston:

D Trouba

To Anaheim:

F Senyshyn
F Spooner
2017 2nd

To Winnipeg

D Fowler
D K.Miller

Basis of the deals being Spooner/Senyshyn, Trouba and Fowler.

Miller out, Carlo/Zboril in.

 

[FLYLine27*]

I've always maintained (based off the Jets fans insight here as to what Chevy is asking for, not sure if they are sources in the last five threads but the banter towards the end of the last one deterred me from trying to sort through and find actual rumors) that there has to be three teams involved for the Bruins and Jets to once again do a major trade (Wheeler)

To Boston:

D Trouba

To Anaheim:

F Senyshyn
F Spooner
2017 2nd

To Winnipeg

D Fowler
D K.Miller

Basis of the deals being Spooner/Senyshyn, Trouba and Fowler.

Boston give up garbage and get Trouba? Keep dreaming.

 

[Hunter368]

I've always maintained (based off the Jets fans insight here as to what Chevy is asking for, not sure if they are sources in the last five threads but the banter towards the end of the last one deterred me from trying to sort through and find actual rumors) that there has to be three teams involved for the Bruins and Jets to once again do a major trade (Wheeler)

To Boston:

D Trouba

To Anaheim:

F Senyshyn
F Spooner
2017 2nd

To Winnipeg
I
D Fowler
D K.Miller

Basis of the deals being Spooner/Senyshyn, Trouba and Fowler.

Oh lord another Fowler offer.....file it with the Nurse offers. No thx

 

[Coach Parker]

Seen already, Spooner fills no holes on our team. Carlo is far from proven anything, still just a dark horse prospect. Handful of games prove nothing. Picks are borderline useless to us.

Not exactly a exciting trade rumour for Trouba.

I refuse to get into it at all about this but I'll keep it simple as possible for Jets fans and Bruins fans:

Everything you feel and everything Morrissey has done in Winnipeg Carlo has done in Boston while being two years younger and playing the top pairing. This particular moment Carlo is doing more while being two years younger but we all know how prospect development can go franchise to franchise.

I'm not going to get into a comparison of the two but rather illustrate the level of development Carlo has shown since day one and the value put on him when put into a Jets perspective.

So, would you as a Jets fan consider Trouba worth a 50 point center, a potentially high 1st and Morrissey?

 

[Coach Parker]

Boston give up garbage and get Trouba? Keep dreaming.

Funny, most Ducks fans were on board for Spooner, Senyshyn and a pick for Fowler. I wouldn't expect you to know that though. To complete the irony of your post, that 'trash' Spooner had two less points in one less game than the guy you are sporting in your avatar pic. So I guess he is trash too.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Miller out, Carlo/Zboril in.

Nope, not happening. You can let him sit and watch him go to Europe or have him sign with you and be unhappy. But for a guy that Jets fans are now saying isn't even missed and that the team is doing just as well without... you aren't getting assets like that back.

 

[kunekune]

Nope, not happening. You can let him sit and watch him go to Europe or have him sign with you and be unhappy. But for a guy that Jets fans are now saying isn't even missed and that the team is doing just as well without... you aren't getting assets like that back.

It is not a problem for Jets to let Trouba sit the whole year. They are prepared for it and atm it looks like most possible solution.

 

[Coach Parker]

Miller out, Carlo/Zboril in.

I honestly see Zboril being the realistic target from Winnipeg if it was a two-team trade.

 

[Maukkis]

I refuse to get into it at all about this but I'll keep it simple as possible for Jets fans and Bruins fans:

Everything you feel and everything Morrissey has done in Winnipeg Carlo has done in Boston while being two years younger and playing the top pairing. This particular moment Carlo is doing more while being two years younger but we all know how prospect development can go franchise to franchise.

I'm not going to get into a comparison of the two but rather illustrate the level of development Carlo has shown since day one and the value put on him when put into a Jets perspective.

So, would you as a Jets fan consider Trouba worth a 50 point center, a potentially high 1st and Morrissey?

A 50 point center is nice, if your team needs one. Our center needs are more on the defensively good side, for the duration of Little's injury. Scheifele-Little-Perreault-Lowry is good enough. With no space on the wings, Spooner really doesn't have a place when everyone is healthy. That's why Carlo and 1st are needed. Carlo fills a need for good defensive prospects - no matter if the sample size is small, he's still a good prospect, and a 1st in a draft full of decent D prospects. Probably around the 10-15 range, maybe 15-20. The possible benefits of that pick would show in 3-4 years, if ever. On the other hand, you'd get a massively needed young, top pairing quality RHD.

I wouldn't include Spooner at all to the deal. The other two are absolutely needed.

 

[Xscout*]

If he didn't have an aversion to canada, I would happily trade rielly + soshnikov for him.

Thanks. Been looking for a reason to block you.
Kinda my 3 strike rule.

 

[Coach Parker]

A 50 point center is nice, if your team needs one. Our center needs are more on the defensively good side, for the duration of Little's injury. Scheifele-Little-Perreault-Lowry is good enough. With no space on the wings, Spooner really doesn't have a place when everyone is healthy. That's why Carlo and 1st are needed. Carlo fills a need for good defensive prospects - no matter if the sample size is small, he's still a good prospect, and a 1st in a draft full of decent D prospects. Probably around the 10-15 range, maybe 15-20. The possible benefits of that pick would show in 3-4 years, if ever. On the other hand, you'd get a massively needed young, top pairing quality RHD.

I wouldn't include Spooner at all to the deal. The other two are absolutely needed.

Agreed. Then on the flip side you have the Ducks who would be a perfect fit for Spooner as discussed with their fans for months now. Hence me saying that there perhaps needed to be a third team involved to make the deal a perfect fit for the Jets and Bruins.

 

[jukon]

Assessing possible 1 for 1 trade candidates, I've taken this list from here: http://puckprose.com/2015/10/23/nhl-top-25-defenseman-under-25-years-of-age/ and removed RHD from the list. Trouba is ranked #8. I really don't see a 1 for 1 happening. Winnipeg will either have to downgrade, or add a decent pick or a prospect.

1- OEL
2- Hedman
9- Rielly
10- Krug
12- Lindholm
16- Murray
17- Leddy
18- Brodin
20- Fowler
21- Klefbom
22- Maatta
25- McNabb

 

[Paradise*]

1st Rd pick at least makes it worth talking about. Curious how is Spooner on the PP.

He's very good on the PP.

 

[Coach Parker]

He's very good on the PP.

Last year he was the Bruins powerplay. Enough that Bruins fans on our board talk about moving Krejci before Spooner given the age, production and cap hit.

 

[Hunter368]

He's very good on the PP.

Carlo is a bit of a dark horse, but worth a shot, 1st is nice even if mid range....spooner might help our PP. I likely would consider it even if we had to add a little to get it done. Carlo might stick on 2nd pairing end/like long term.

 

[Paradise*]

Carlo is a bit of a dark horse, but worth a shot, 1st is nice even if mid range....spooner might help our PP. I likely would consider it even if we had to add a little to get it done. Carlo might stick on 2nd pairing end/like long term.

I've watched both Morrissey and Carlo this year and Carlo looks much more poised and steady of the 2. I think Morrissey has been good also.

As a fan of both teams, I don't do this trade from Boston's perspective, too pricey. I easily take the deal from the Winnipeg side.

 

[northeastern]

I honestly see Zboril being the realistic target from Winnipeg if it was a two-team trade.

I'd rather see zboril moved over Carlo but hard to say long term what's the best option.

I don't see the bruins moving Carlo right now. One of the few bright spots they've had this season.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

I do think he will be traded and I think it will happen this season in time for him to play THIS season

NY
Boston
Detroit

I think he ends up with one of these three teams with a fourth less obvious team that comes out of nowhere also being a good possibility.

no idea on the return and no i dont think anyone can say for certain it wont be x, y or z

 

[FLYLine27*]

Funny, most Ducks fans were on board for Spooner, Senyshyn and a pick for Fowler. I wouldn't expect you to know that though. To complete the irony of your post, that 'trash' Spooner had two less points in one less game than the guy you are sporting in your avatar pic. So I guess he is trash too.

Yea and Spooner is also the older player. And how is Spooner doing this season? A big goal and assist? How's Mika doing?

 

[Exit Dose]

I've always maintained (based off the Jets fans insight here as to what Chevy is asking for, not sure if they are sources in the last five threads but the banter towards the end of the last one deterred me from trying to sort through and find actual rumors) that there has to be three teams involved for the Bruins and Jets to once again do a major trade (Wheeler)

To Boston:

D Trouba

To Anaheim:

F Senyshyn
F Spooner
2017 2nd

To Winnipeg

D Fowler
D K.Miller

Basis of the deals being Spooner/Senyshyn, Trouba and Fowler.

Fowler is off the market.

 

[JetsHomer]

Fowler is off the market.

Do you really think the Ducks ownership is fine with icing the most expensive lineup in the league?

 

[lanceuppercut75]

I keep reading that Jets fans aren't exactly excited about trading Trouba and getting back Gardiner or Fowler or Nurse.

But let me ask you this Jets fans. IF this trade happens - and IF the return is one of Gardiner, Fowler or Nurse - how would you rank them in terms of being a good fit for the Jets?