Yeah EP and Hronek easily eat 20 out of that 40m
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Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition
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I guess I'm the only one who finds the worst aspect of Bertuzzi to be his play in the defensive zone. For all the grief Tavares takes here, with Nylander (especially since he's signed that contract) and Bertuzzi as his wingers, the poor fella at least tries to be relevant in our end. Nylander started the season with a much improved defensive effort, which has faded, but how Bertuzzi escapes criticism in our end escapes me. And yes, I'd like to see more from JT in all 3 zones, but let's be honest, if his shooting % was simply at his career average, his goal total would jump from 14 to 23, and over the last 10 games working with his line mates, he's got Nylander scoring 2 goals off of 39 shots, and Bert netting 1 off of 17 shots, just over 5% and just under 6% respectively. With captain John adding his 5% average over the same time frame (2 goals from 40 shots) we shouldn't be surprised that line is getting caved.
Keefe has to be assessed some of the blame for this. The line is not working. I'd argue it's because all three players are poorly fit for each other. When Nylander was going all world it hid the deficiencies of the 3 players, and the line looked ok. Now, you have the most skilled player on RW, working with a deligent/detail focused but declining C, and a hard working but not high IQ LWer who can't keep up with one and doesn't think the game like the other. They are all suffering, with Bert being, for me, the biggest liability.
If you can trade Bertuzzi for a 2nd, and you can turn that into Tanev, leap at the chance. If you don't want to take a risk on Tanev keep the 2nd. But if you think you can trade Bert to St Louis for Parayko, I'm guessing the Blues would laugh in your face. They're a goal scoring starved team, and CP currently has more goals than TB with Colton playing 23:50 minutes a night.
The only other option, imho, is to throw Bert back up with AM and let his mucking help free up the puck for Matthews to deposit. Again, Sheldon.
Otherwise, accept the experiment didn't work and trade the player.
Keefe has to be assessed some of the blame for this. The line is not working. I'd argue it's because all three players are poorly fit for each other. When Nylander was going all world it hid the deficiencies of the 3 players, and the line looked ok. Now, you have the most skilled player on RW, working with a deligent/detail focused but declining C, and a hard working but not high IQ LWer who can't keep up with one and doesn't think the game like the other. They are all suffering, with Bert being, for me, the biggest liability.
If you can trade Bertuzzi for a 2nd, and you can turn that into Tanev, leap at the chance. If you don't want to take a risk on Tanev keep the 2nd. But if you think you can trade Bert to St Louis for Parayko, I'm guessing the Blues would laugh in your face. They're a goal scoring starved team, and CP currently has more goals than TB with Colton playing 23:50 minutes a night.
The only other option, imho, is to throw Bert back up with AM and let his mucking help free up the puck for Matthews to deposit. Again, Sheldon.
Otherwise, accept the experiment didn't work and trade the player.
Would really like to fleece someone since we always seem to get fleeced , trade bert for pics try to pry toffoli from jersey and peeke from clb should be enough to get them both without having to move anyone of significance
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Why's Andy and Rono suggesting the Leafs are going to do something big? Don't think they mess around with rumours too often.
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No idea who Andy and Rono are but the 'why' is they are probably looking for attention.
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https://www.twitter.com/incarceratedbob/status/1755087955893334107?s=20
This guy had the JT signing 20 minutes before anyone else and I believe he had some other Leaf related trades as well
This guy had the JT signing 20 minutes before anyone else and I believe he had some other Leaf related trades as well
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Punch Drunk Loov
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Nice to hear buzz even if it's from dudes with questionable sources.
His offensive game has been terrible but there is no denying Bertuzzi is a workhorse on the ice.
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Every time I see him chasing a loose puck he reminds me of Motor City Smitty, lots of jump and visible desire to obtain said puck………
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I like their charts and stuff but that seems like a whole bait bag of nothingness.
Its open for me
"Leafs are up to something with a western conference team last 24 hours buzzzzzz coming from #NHLTradeDeadline
11:35 PM · Feb 6, 2024"
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"up to something"......do they mean they play Dallas tonight?
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Bert and Domi were 1 year deals for playoff depth. If they fail we're off the hook. If you scan past ufa options for playoff forward, they are not bad choices. Both are good odds to pace 60 point in playoff.
We don't know if the experiment failed yet. Leafs fans know first hand playoffs is so different for success and both these players were praised for their performances in spring last season
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@incarceratedbob Appears to be a twitter account dedicated to sports-betting and the wagers he's making lol.
Chances are he has a bunch of buddies playing broken telephone at best
Chances are he has a bunch of buddies playing broken telephone at best
Yeah, it's interesting how some people have been fooled into thinking that Bertuzzi is some high-effort, heart and soul bulldog, when he's actually one of the lazier and more selfish players on the team. I think when some people see a chunkier, more inefficient skating stride and a flailing upper body, they equate that to higher effort, even if they accomplish much less than somebody with an efficient skating stride that is smarter about timing their acceleration bursts for when they need it. He seems to flail around into a forecheck at 150% speed, either not get the puck or lose it, and then the puck goes back the other direction, he skates back at half speed, and then is completely lost in the defensive zone. Rinse and repeat.
And it's weird seeing people absolve Bertuzzi for being snakebit (which largely just looks like an inability to shoot since he broke both hands), and then turn around and blast the much more snakebit Tavares.
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Leafs are actively talking trades, likely with a Western team
That's about all that's being said
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Incarcerated Bob has been pretty spot on with his stuff over the years. He’s as trustworthy as they get outside of the people who work for Bell/Rogers.
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