I don't think so, they were clearly unhappy with Fitz anyway. Cut your losses short.
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I don't think so, they were clearly unhappy with Fitz anyway. Cut your losses short.
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I don't think he is unless Lombardi gets a deal he can't refuse. I really want Jake Gardiner and I still see a fit between Toronto and LA.
HYORI 1963
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Reuniting Regehr with Sutter would make most sense, adding some much needed toughness on defense. As I posted on the trade forum: Regehr for Martinez + should get it done.
johnjm22
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Why does it matter? Fitzpatrick was cut because he was expensive and not performing. The conversation between the two GM's was typical, and nothing out of the ordinary.
And I highly doubt we'll be taking Nassib at the draft. Unless he's still there in the 2nd or 3rd round.
What lol? Martinez +? Are you crazy! Regehr's contract is up after this year, we're not giving up Alec Martinez + for someone on an expiring.
HYORI 1963
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First off, you're assuming he'll be a rental. My thinking is he will most likely re-sign here with us since he had success playing for Sutter in Calgary.
Besides, just ask yourself this: do we have a better chance of winning the cup this year with Regehr or
with Martinez?
Martinez although a solid 2nd pairing for most teams is expendable due to the rise of Muzzin. So, yeah, we do overpay a bit, but that's the price you pay to compete for the cup.
Most Kings fans would be very disappointed in that deal, I'll tell you that much.
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Whiskeypete
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with Muzzin's emergence i think AMart can be moved.
BUT
not now with the current injuries to Greene and Mitchell. the D corps is still in flux and they need every body they have, should someone get injured beyond #2 and #33.
i like AMart, but it is a constant evaluation day to day on what improves your team. every day. if Muzzin maintains his current level of play, it gives DL options. he has another PMD, but one with more size, more physical and more offensive skill than AMart
BUT
not now with the current injuries to Greene and Mitchell. the D corps is still in flux and they need every body they have, should someone get injured beyond #2 and #33.
i like AMart, but it is a constant evaluation day to day on what improves your team. every day. if Muzzin maintains his current level of play, it gives DL options. he has another PMD, but one with more size, more physical and more offensive skill than AMart
Ollie Weeks
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For Regehr, I was imagining something along the lines of a 2013 3rd, 2014 second, and Davis Drewiske (roster spot).
Want nothing to do with Stafford. His production is way to erratic for 4 million for the next two years. That's more than we're paying Penner.
Want nothing to do with Stafford. His production is way to erratic for 4 million for the next two years. That's more than we're paying Penner.
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Regehr is what the team needs. I am surprised to see the people who don't want him here.
Mitchell and Greene has the reputations of being pylons and taking dumb penalties before they come here too.
He is a great fit for the Kings system and will IMMEDIATELY make Doughty a MUCH better player offensively.
Mitchell and Greene has the reputations of being pylons and taking dumb penalties before they come here too.
He is a great fit for the Kings system and will IMMEDIATELY make Doughty a MUCH better player offensively.
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That's very true; Lombardi's next move(s) will speak on his position on this team and his philosophy on now vs. later
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Doughty - Regehr
Voynov - Scuderi
Greene - Muzzin
Ellerby
Martinez/Drewiske (whichever one doesn't get moved)
That gives us a bit more breathing room this offseason, if we work at extending Regehr and Scuderi. Mitchell is retired as far as I'm concerned.
Voynov - Scuderi
Greene - Muzzin
Ellerby
Martinez/Drewiske (whichever one doesn't get moved)
That gives us a bit more breathing room this offseason, if we work at extending Regehr and Scuderi. Mitchell is retired as far as I'm concerned.
Ziggy Stardust
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Can't see the Sabres trading for Bernier unless they have a separate trade involving Ryan Miller all worked out, and even so, if the Kings do move Bernier to Buffalo, they would require a backup, and Jhonas Enroth is the player the Kings would want backing up Quick.
A player I'd love to see the Kings get from Buffalo is Tyler Ennis, but I don't see them giving him up for anything short of a significant return.
A player I'd love to see the Kings get from Buffalo is Tyler Ennis, but I don't see them giving him up for anything short of a significant return.
Woah Woah hold the phone. Martinez has lost out to Muzzin? What are you on, muzzin is having a good run but that's probably the most short sighted move to do. Martinez has been wonderful except for this season. Give me a break just because A mart isnt playing well doesn't mean he's a bust after all he's done. Jesus Christ. Don't jump the gun.
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Martyros
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Martinez, until recently due to injury, is one of the players that you don't even notice out on the ice because he gets the job done defensively.
KINGS17
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Regehr is not the player he once was.
^^^^
This. Moving Martinez for a defenseman with bad knees, is just a bad idea.
SCARFACE909
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I don't think Regehr can play top pairing minutes any more, he's way too slow now.
Why would the Kings make this deal...the D is fine now and then when Willie and Greene come back they will have to do something with Muzzin, Ellerby and Drewiske. All 3 of those will sit when everyone is healthy.
Here's two reasons
Greene isn't coming back this season.
Scuderi is a pending UFA. There was a report the Kings started informal negotiations, but maybe The Piece wants to go back to the East Coast or something
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There are allot of people undervaluing A Mart around here as well as way over valuing Rehger.
Muzzin by the way isn't simply on a "hot streak", he is playing the way allot of us knew he would around here.
What you are seeing with JM is what you get. He isn't ever going to be good enough to carry a D partner but if you put him with someone who can play he will always be good enough to take advantage of the chance.
He is a solid 4/6 dman in his rookie year. Ups and Downs but for the most part after 20 games you are seeing where he is at this point of his development. In 3 years the only true change is that experience will have shown him how to limit his mistakes.
That said he is 3rd in all rookie D scoring (4 points behind the top scoring rookie D who has played 4 more games) and leads all rookie D in +/- with +11 (4 more than his nearest comp).
He has averaged over 20mins a game over the past 10 games which is right near the top as well and also shows that DS has confidence in the kid. He is second on our team in D scoring and leads our team in +/- as well.
He has played 22 games and has established himself.
Muzzin by the way isn't simply on a "hot streak", he is playing the way allot of us knew he would around here.
What you are seeing with JM is what you get. He isn't ever going to be good enough to carry a D partner but if you put him with someone who can play he will always be good enough to take advantage of the chance.
He is a solid 4/6 dman in his rookie year. Ups and Downs but for the most part after 20 games you are seeing where he is at this point of his development. In 3 years the only true change is that experience will have shown him how to limit his mistakes.
That said he is 3rd in all rookie D scoring (4 points behind the top scoring rookie D who has played 4 more games) and leads all rookie D in +/- with +11 (4 more than his nearest comp).
He has averaged over 20mins a game over the past 10 games which is right near the top as well and also shows that DS has confidence in the kid. He is second on our team in D scoring and leads our team in +/- as well.
He has played 22 games and has established himself.
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My feelings as well and I would like the 2014 to be a third as well.
They can send Richardson as well. I don't want anything of significance being moved off the roster for Regehr.
Sounds like Muzzin would be a great partner for Greene when he gets healthy. Add to that Muzzin's ability on the point on the PP, and why trade Muzzin?
Regehr flat out isn't that good any more. Remember Dean's mantra, get better and younger. I don't see how Regehr makes the Kings that much better, but he sure would make them a lot older.
Our future on the blueline still looks pretty good:
Doughty - Scuderi (eventually need another stay-at-home here)
Voynov - Martinez
Muzzin - Greene
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