HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[WeThreeKings]

If we drafted Jiricek, and his development was the same here, most here would want to be trading him too.

I mean the board wanted to trade Slaf the second he was picked, so yeah.

 

[Vachon23]

Jiricek is a no brainer

 

[Goalfield13]

Jiricek would be insurance on Reinbacher, not Mailloux. We need to do this.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

He's also been jerked around by the organization and his coaches.

I'm curious what his former coach Pascal Vincent thinks.

He's still 20, and they haven't exactly given him time to learn in the AHL. Seems like mismanagement to me. Looking at his hockeydb page is giving me whiplash with the constant yo-yo-ing.

Yes, but even in the AHL it seems he hasn't progressed.

Not the best situation and I'd be 100% interested, but gotta be cautious. There's gotta be a reason they may be looking to deal him. Could be incompetence, could be something genuine.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Jiricek would be insurance on Reinbacher, not Mailloux. We need to do this.

Big, shoot first, offensive defenseman who needs to learn to defend at a NHL level. It's insurance on Mailloux.

 

[Goalfield13]

Big, shoot first, offensive defenseman who needs to learn to defend at a NHL level. It's insurance on Mailloux.

I am fine having both Mailloux and Jiricek on this team. Reinbacher's injuries require insurance. Let's just agree to disagree. He can be insurance for both, depending on how you look at it.

 

[ReHabs]

Jiricek would be insurance on Reinbacher, not Mailloux. We need to do this.

Given Dach's slow start after his injury, it's a very good observation you've made: Jiricek would be insurance against Reinbacher's injury. He's an RD for heaven's sake, aren't they meant to be worth as much as Centres?

Big, shoot first, offensive defenseman who needs to learn to defend at a NHL level. It's insurance on Mailloux.

Look at the TOI they'd have, not their playing profile. Jiricek is meant to track toward top3 TOI, same with Reinbacher. Mailloux is more of a boom-or-bust type long-shot.

 

[junyab]

He's also been jerked around by the organization and his coaches.

I'm curious what his former coach Pascal Vincent thinks.

All the excuses that were valid for Slafkovsky's slow start also apply to Jiricek -- and even more, he's a d-man adapting to a bunch of new angles given the rink size change. Also, the significantly higher rate of physical play in NA hockey vs European hockey. It takes some time.

If the 13OA was worth gambling on Dach, a similar such pick (or equivalent value) is worth gambling on a player whose prospect profile was or is comparable with Reinbacher's (even higher at the time of draft).

I hope you gave Mesar that same courtesy.

 

[Goalfield13]

Even if Jiricek ends up more of a bottom 3 D, that's still something we need lol.

 

[junyab]

I mean the board wanted to trade Slaf the second he was picked, so yeah.

Not everyone. Not me. I didn't prefer Slaf over Wright or Cooley or Nemec, but I definitely trusted our management and was willing to give him and them time.

 

[themilosh]

I am fine having both Mailloux and Jiricek on this team. Reinbacher's injuries require insurance. Let's just agree to disagree. He can be insurance for both, depending on how you look at it.

With the Cap going up, a combination of Rainman/Mailloux/Jiricek at our right side on D would make us the envy of the league at that position.

 

[salbutera]

Which blue chip prospect are posters ready to deal for Jiricek?

I don’t see CBJ trading 6OA 2 years removed for a bag of pucks.

I do potentially see a Wright for Jiricek swap…

 

[ReHabs]

I hope you gave Mesar that same courtesy.

I've always been positive about Mešar. I see him taking a longer road to the NHL but if he does, he will be someone we'd be very happy with.

 

[Goalfield13]

With the Cap going up, a combination of Rainman/Mailloux/Jiricek at our right side on D would make us the envy of the league at that position.

I think the chances all three are NHL defensmen are high, so I agree. Guhle and Hutson are already top 4 D, so things would be looking good.

 

[sampollock]

I mean the board wanted to trade Slaf the second he was picked, so yeah.

and said give more time to KK

 

[Goalfield13]

Which blue chip prospect are posters ready to deal for Jiricek?

I don’t see CBJ trading 6OA 2 years removed for a bag of pucks.

I do potentially see a Wright for Jiricek swap…

I don't think it will take a blue-chip prospect nor would I consider Wright a blue-chip prospect at this point either. It will take some nice assets, though, which we have plenty.

 

[sampollock]

I don't think it will take a blue-chip prospect nor would I consider Wright a blue-ship prospect at this point either. It will take some nice assets, though, which we have plenty.

Calgary's #1

 

[Goalfield13]

Calgary's #1

I was thinking Calgary's first and Struble.

 

[themilosh]

He's still 20, and they haven't exactly given him time to learn in the AHL. Seems like mismanagement to me. Looking at his hockeydb page is giving me whiplash with the constant yo-yo-ing.

I'd offer CBJ Dach for Jiricek straight up.
Then draft Hagens/Misa...

and said give more time to KK

Personally id rather KK in our lineup rn than Dvorak..

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Jiricek would make the most sense if we can switch him with a few young Dmen, so we can actually play the guy. Would the Jackets take Barron and Struble for him ?

 

[Goalfield13]

I'd offer CBJ Dach for Jiricek straight up.


Personally id rather KK in our lineup rn than Dvorak..

Both KK and Dvorak both suck. I'd rather neither.

 

[themilosh]

Both KK and Dvorak both suck. I'd rather neither.

That's not how this works

 

[sampollock]

I was thinking Calgary's first and Struble.

calgary #1 and barron

 

[Goalfield13]

Jiricek would make the most sense if we can switch him with a few young Dmen, so we can actually play the guy. Would the Jackets take Barron and Struble for him ?

I think Jiricek needs a full season in the AHL. The guy is coming from the Czech league. Not only did he need to adjust to NA ice, but then he was constantly yo-yo'd up and down.

 

[themilosh]

Jiricek would make the most sense if we can switch him with a few young Dmen, so we can actually play the guy. Would the Jackets take Barron and Struble for him ?

No, they wouldn't.. you need to offer a similar high pick prospect back (Dach) to be considered fair.. they are not going to give him away for chopped liver.