DAChampion
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Mailloux does have negligible value, but that's because he hasn't played in two years.
HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #80
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Expos94
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Well that's good because we will be happy we kept him 3 years from now. He's gonna be a stud and by then his history will be way behind him.
Nico Cauzuki
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Mailloux just needs to get back on the ice the kid has all the tools but he barely played the past 2 years
Beendair Donedat
You sold a dead bird to a blind kid????
How about a deal with Buffalo for one of their excess defensemen?
Casey Fitzgerald is a scrappy right hand shot defenseman that probably gets caught in the numbers game in Buffalo. He’s on a cheap contract and could add some sand paper to the back end. Even better if the Habs could clear some cap back the other way.
Paul Byron straight up for Fitzgerald? It’s can’t lose really for both the Sabres and Habs. If Byron’s out, his contract is covered by insurance, and if he’s healthy enough to play, he can be dealt at the deadline for an asset by the Sabres….Meanwhile the Habs get a serviceable Dman and shed some more salary to sign Dach.
Casey Fitzgerald is a scrappy right hand shot defenseman that probably gets caught in the numbers game in Buffalo. He’s on a cheap contract and could add some sand paper to the back end. Even better if the Habs could clear some cap back the other way.
Paul Byron straight up for Fitzgerald? It’s can’t lose really for both the Sabres and Habs. If Byron’s out, his contract is covered by insurance, and if he’s healthy enough to play, he can be dealt at the deadline for an asset by the Sabres….Meanwhile the Habs get a serviceable Dman and shed some more salary to sign Dach.
Dach is already good enough to be considered a 3rd C of the future. The trade would never be a complete flop.
He needs to learn how to use his size too gain access to the O-zone rather than try to go around opposing Ds continually. he also needs to work on his shot and make a conscientious effort to use it more in order not to be a predictable one-trick pony.
Face-offs? He really needs to improve in that department because, so far, he hasn't completely wowed everyone with his other skills to make that less of a concern.
If Montreal manages to pick up Fantilli or Dvorsky at the 2023 draft, each will end up being a big-bodied, shutdown 3rd line C with offensive upside who could potentially step up to the 2nd line in case of injuries.
Allen is necessary to start the year. He's gone at the deadline, or before, depending on Price's health.
Montreal will likely place Byron on the LTIR to start the year and might start with a smaller lineup than the 23-player, maximum roster size.
I suspect 7 D and 12 forwards, plus two Gs.
LOL at Dubois age 24 being considered too old for the rebuild. Suzuki is only one year younger and taking up so much cap space - get rid of him!!
If that was the potential of Fantili and Dvorsky… they wouldn’t be in the discussion for top 5… everybody citing 2003 draft and all… maybe not right off the start at D+1 but we gotta be talking about #1 center potential there, to push Suzuki down at #1B spot. Then we can think about becoming real contender.
Vachon23
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DeAngelo was a proven 50 pts producer
Mailloux have played something like 15-20 games in the past 2 years. The problem with Mailloux is not only the legal affaire, but the game he lost in his development
Habs Halifax
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We do have a clue... look at the moves made this summer so far.
No doubt about it. Those players don't suck but cap space is a major issue right now and the teams that have it, are not going to play nice even if they value Armia and Hoffman to some degree.
Nico Cauzuki
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hoping some of our rentals have great seasons so we can move them for 1sts or 2nds ( then move up ) this draft keeps looking better every day
put Dadonov with Suzuki with PP1 on a contract year im sure he will play hes ass off
hopefully Drouin and Byron can stay healthy and have a descent season also
put Dadonov with Suzuki with PP1 on a contract year im sure he will play hes ass off
hopefully Drouin and Byron can stay healthy and have a descent season also
What???
We're holding onto our lottery protected pick and not trading it for top 6 players in order to save it for the next Danault (plus 10% chance at Bedard)???
If the 2023 draft is as strong as people are saying, there better be more 70 point Cs there.
Please no more players on a descent. It's enough we have Gallagher, Hoffman and Savard.
Have you seen him play during that shortened sample? The kid has a lot of offensive potential. That may or may not translate to the NHL but he’s big, skates well around people and has a great shot. Teams will trade for the potential he has even with the baggage. That being said, better to keep him around and translate that potential to the AHL first and see what’s up.
Habs Halifax
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Price is the wild card. We need to keep Allen and Monty until we know Price's faith this season. Allen has value no doubt about it
I doubt we will get another 1st this time around but you never know. I would expect 2nd rounders and B prospects for guys like Dadonov, Drouin, Byron. Allen might get a late 1st. Hard to say.
Spring in Fialta
A malign star kept him
I can't believe that we still have posters pretending acquiring 24-year olds is a win now move. Unbelievable.
Habs Halifax
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There is no doubt about it. Mailloux has potential. Habs need to stay patient with him.
Habs Halifax
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Flawed context.
Dubois is not just for the now. It's for the now and future. You're smarter than that so avoid exaggeration to prove your point
Trading futures? That has to be quantified. We are not trading Grade A assets like Guhle. If it's a Trouba price (20th and Pionk), I'm doing it.
The good news here is Dubois can't be extended until Jan now with his 1 year deal in place. Both the Habs and Jets can gather way more information from now till then. Jets can evaluate a prospect like Kidney and Habs can look at where the Panthers pick is tracking.
We are interested in Dubois, not desperate. If the cost is something we can afford and the salary in matches salary out, we would be dumb to not engage. Chances the Panthers pick and Kidney are better than Dubois is slim.
Legend123
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It's a win now and win in the future
It's win now cuz it pushed the habs forward when the main goal should be to secure Bedard, mychkov or fantilli.
Short term pain for long term gains. I see nothing wrong with that approach.
Then who knows maybe we can compete after the 2023 draft or need just one more top 5 pick to get the ball rolling, which coincides well with Dubois and his Ufa status
DAChampion
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Spring in Fialta
A malign star kept him
Anybody who thinks a team should avoid acquiring a young, bonafide top-6 center who wants to play for your team to minimally increase your minimal chances at getting Bedard or whoever should not be taken seriously when talking about how hockey teams should be built.
sampollock
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agreed if PLD can be had a good GM explores , even more when the player wants to put the CH on
Legend123
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So why not get him for free in 2 years ? Why waste big assets for him when he's hellbent to come here. Why would we ever wanna waste assets when we won't compete anyways.
sampollock
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Spring in Fialta
A malign star kept him
I've gotten into this a million times in different threads and don't have the energy to do this but 'Just get him for free in two years' isn't as clever as everyone thinks it is the moment we start talking like we're in the real world and not just working out a hypothetical on a sheet of paper.
Red that theres chatter between flames and habs for Armia
To shed salary for Dach and Primeau
They have to sign Kylington and have a lot of def, so maybe for a depth def
To shed salary for Dach and Primeau
They have to sign Kylington and have a lot of def, so maybe for a depth def
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