Agree Chiarot makes most sense as a smoke screen….unless maybe there’s something we don’t know (Muzz struggling with health more than we know)?
Still, that asking price is gross.
Still, that asking price is gross.
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Scion
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And Kampf, Kase, and Bunting. You can't just cherry pick the examples that suit your narrative. We also don't know what a healthy Foligno would have done because he got injured almost immediately.
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Part of me wonders how healthy he was to begin with coming.
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I think it's just a matter of teams still not accepting that they aren't making the playoffs. Not many sellers right now. In 3 weeks time, I think that will change a bit.
With that said, Mirtle is right. There's nothing out there based on the reports and the sellers we know. It's all bad defensemen or extremely expensive defensemen. The Leafs might as well just go all out on offence and go after a forward that will give another weapon.
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Muzzin has been terrible this year. Not playing to his 5.65 mil contract at all. Holl has been bad. I didn't think Sandin looked great on his off-side. Dermott was good, but he always is in flashes until he makes a glaring mistake with poor hockey IQ. We really need a solid add on the back-end come playoff time, and definitely a rough defender. Muzzin seems like a shell of himself...doesn't engage as much, not as much of an open ice threat, and overall just looks sluggish. Really hope he gets it figured out
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Muzzin legit may LTRetire in the off-season and rebuilding the D might be needed.
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Wouldn't mind going for someone like Ian Cole for 3rd pairing LD.
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Pulling apart Bunting-Matthews-Marner right now would be criminal. Shakeup has to happen elsewhere like Mikheyev-Tavares-Nylander for example. But overall I think we just need a deadline acquisition for a LW with a good motor and some fire to their play (like the rumours about Hagel).
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If the idea is to have a super line or just a legit top 6, I think you gotta break it up for the time being.
88 ice cold in the goal scoring department and JT at even strength isn't shining either. Hagel or Miller would be fantastic adds but they're gonna cost a lot...
Defense needs some fixing too.
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We are so barren in picks, after already only having 1 first round pick over the past 3 seasons, we have to be ultra cautious trading futures at this point. With a team that is very top-heavy salary-wise, we need cheap young players on ELCs constantly coming through. I don't see trading more futures for Chariot as a solid plan.
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The guys we'd draft this year are 2-3 years away at best. We already drafted out next wave of cheap ELC contracts, I'd rather keep Niemela/Kral/Amirov over the picks. Our complementary piece pipeline is very healthy everywhere except at C.
Im talking about his deadline deals.... not free agent signings. There is a significant difference between the two.
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Hopefully they will be able to grab one or more of McBain/Meyers/Kuzmenko to make up for some of those lost picks.
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He's right. Matthews, Campbell and Nylander will all need new contracts within 2 years of this season ending (Campbell after this season).
Insider Trading: Have the Canucks decided to keep J.T. Miller? - TSN.ca
For some teams, the pre trade deadline plan is pretty cut and dry, but for others it’s a shifting landscape. Could the Vancouver Canucks be reconsidering their plan?
Pierre LeBrun – Depends on who you ask. Certainly, I checked with a couple NHL front offices over the past few days who feel that when they talk to Vancouver lately, it feels like J.T. Miller has been reeled back in by the Canucks. Now, we’re a month away from the trade deadline, so perhaps a bit of cat and mouse, but I think the message is clear from the Vancouver Canucks to other teams, they don’t feel they have to trade J.T. Miller. He’s got a year-and-a-half left on his deal and this notion that J.T. Miller’s worth is higher now than it would be this summer, the Canucks’ front office does not believe that. They feel they can get as much for him in the summer as they can now and by the way, maybe they’ll just sign him this summer, so all options are on the table. Translation is this, if you’re the New York Rangers, or any other team, you have got to step up in a meaningful way to get the Canucks’ attention on J.T. Miller, or else they’re happy to keep him.
Cap gymnastics may never become an official Olympic event, but is it now becoming a much needed skill in the NHL?
Chris Johnston – It is, specifically for a team like the Toronto Maple Leafs. You look to the move Thursday, where they put Adam Brooks on waivers one day after reclaiming him from Vegas and that leaves some people scratching their head. When you look at that actual transaction, should he clear on Friday as expected, the Leafs reclaimed some centre depth, a player that they did draft once upon a time. They actually opened up a little bit of cap space with the series of moves that they would’ve had to make and I think this is a good reminder in these next four weeks to really closely scrutinize what Toronto does, because while they have a tight cap, I believe they are looking for a forward potentially, in addition to their stated No. 1 priority of adding a defenceman as well.
LeBrun – Speaking of that, one name to keep an eye on with the Leafs and other contenders is a name that’s more under the radar in terms of defencemen, Justin Braun. Not a very sexy name, but at this time of year, those are the types of trades that while they don’t get a lot of attention, those are the type of playoff additions that end up paying off. Justin Braun who has played 100 career NHL playoff games, he’s playing in a Top-4 role in Philly, the Flyers are going to deal him, he’s a pending UFA. He only makes $1.8 million and to be honest that’s probably one of the reasons why the Flyers have heard from half-a-dozen teams over the last couple weeks. Carolina is another team that’s called, we’ll see where this goes. He’s not a Plan A guy, he’s probably not even a Plan B guy, but he’s on a lot of lists in case teams strike out on bigger names on defence.
For some teams, the pre trade deadline plan is pretty cut and dry, but for others it’s a shifting landscape. Could the Vancouver Canucks be reconsidering their plan?
Pierre LeBrun – Depends on who you ask. Certainly, I checked with a couple NHL front offices over the past few days who feel that when they talk to Vancouver lately, it feels like J.T. Miller has been reeled back in by the Canucks. Now, we’re a month away from the trade deadline, so perhaps a bit of cat and mouse, but I think the message is clear from the Vancouver Canucks to other teams, they don’t feel they have to trade J.T. Miller. He’s got a year-and-a-half left on his deal and this notion that J.T. Miller’s worth is higher now than it would be this summer, the Canucks’ front office does not believe that. They feel they can get as much for him in the summer as they can now and by the way, maybe they’ll just sign him this summer, so all options are on the table. Translation is this, if you’re the New York Rangers, or any other team, you have got to step up in a meaningful way to get the Canucks’ attention on J.T. Miller, or else they’re happy to keep him.
Cap gymnastics may never become an official Olympic event, but is it now becoming a much needed skill in the NHL?
Chris Johnston – It is, specifically for a team like the Toronto Maple Leafs. You look to the move Thursday, where they put Adam Brooks on waivers one day after reclaiming him from Vegas and that leaves some people scratching their head. When you look at that actual transaction, should he clear on Friday as expected, the Leafs reclaimed some centre depth, a player that they did draft once upon a time. They actually opened up a little bit of cap space with the series of moves that they would’ve had to make and I think this is a good reminder in these next four weeks to really closely scrutinize what Toronto does, because while they have a tight cap, I believe they are looking for a forward potentially, in addition to their stated No. 1 priority of adding a defenceman as well.
LeBrun – Speaking of that, one name to keep an eye on with the Leafs and other contenders is a name that’s more under the radar in terms of defencemen, Justin Braun. Not a very sexy name, but at this time of year, those are the types of trades that while they don’t get a lot of attention, those are the type of playoff additions that end up paying off. Justin Braun who has played 100 career NHL playoff games, he’s playing in a Top-4 role in Philly, the Flyers are going to deal him, he’s a pending UFA. He only makes $1.8 million and to be honest that’s probably one of the reasons why the Flyers have heard from half-a-dozen teams over the last couple weeks. Carolina is another team that’s called, we’ll see where this goes. He’s not a Plan A guy, he’s probably not even a Plan B guy, but he’s on a lot of lists in case teams strike out on bigger names on defence.
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The Muzzin and the Campbell deals are considered deadline deals. Foligno would have been fine without suffering the injury that is clearly affecting him to this day.
Not sure why you want keep wanting to paint everything he does as a negative when the evidence clearly shows differently.
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Yes and the guys already in the system will be the ones replacing Kerfoot, Mikheyev types to make room for that money. Whoever we draft these next few years will be the guys replacing whoever we need to move to make room for the next wave of RFAs that deserves to get paid.
They’ll fix that with Meyers and maybe McBain.
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Gotta keep that nice ‘20 draft in mind with 11 picks.
Maplebeasts
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The problem is that we won't be drafting much the next few years. As of now we only have 8 picks over the next 2 years. We're good at drafting but you're not going to remain a contender forever picking once in the first round in 4 years.
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kb
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The Leafs have 3 picks this year (1st, 2nd, 7th) and beyond this upcoming draft they are only missing a single 7th in 2023.
Odd take.
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Martin Skoula
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Yeah I'm not saying they should trade every pick while we compete but it's not the end of the world if we use some on a good fit this year. There will be opportunities to move guys like Kerfoot for picks in the off-season like with Kapanen. Once the Euro players graduate to the AHL next year we're going to be running tight on spots down there.
Not much. I've seen him in Boston and he doesn't look that good. He's pretty much done as an impact player.
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