GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART VI

[Nylanderthal]

To Toronto-
Miller @ 50%
Schenn

To Vancouver-
Kerfoot
Robertson
Holmberg
Dermott
1st Round pick

Not trading Kerfoot, too much quantity for Vancouver.
Ritchie Niemela 22 1st 23 2nd with conditions to become a 1st of leafs make/win cup either year.
I’d swap dermott and Schenn too if they wanted.

 

[Avilaj07]

Kerfoot is on pace for nearly 60 points this year. Swap him out for Ritchie and this makes sense but giving up Kerfoot/1st/Holmberg/ AND Robertson is overkill for a guy like Miller. Even at 50%

I'm sorry but Kerfoot is nowhere near Miller's level. Kerfoot is having a good reason riding shotgun with Nylander and Tavares. He's metrics are actually pretty bad.

 

[stickty111]

I'm sorry but Kerfoot is nowhere near Miller's level. Kerfoot is having a good reason riding shotgun with Nylander and Tavares. He's metrics are actually pretty bad.

Nobody said he was. Kerfoot might be getting lucky, but he's still needed on this team. You try to get Miller without adding him.

 

[TheDoldrums]

I saw this tweet and nearly choked to death but luckily its a joke lol

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

I saw this tweet and nearly choked to death but luckily its a joke lol

I would be so pissed

 

[Nylanderthal]

I'm sorry but Kerfoot is nowhere near Miller's level. Kerfoot is having a good reason riding shotgun with Nylander and Tavares. He's metrics are actually pretty bad.

Replacing Kerfoot with miller is not worth the assets Vancouver would want. Replacing Ritchie with miller would be, and I don’t think Vancouver is looking at Kerfoot as a significantly superior asset TO THEM than Ritchie might be,

 

[Avilaj07]

Nobody said he was. Kerfoot might be getting lucky, but he's still needed on this team. You try to get Miller without adding him.

If you add Miller, where exactly does Kerfoot for on the roster? Not to mention his cap hit
You take Miller over Kerfoot 10 times out of 10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Kerfoot, but not on our top six, and he's too expensive for the bottom six. Now if the time to trade him for an upgrade since he's having a decent year offensively.

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Miller-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kampf-Kase
Engvall-Spezza-Simmonds

Rielly- Brodie
Sandin- Holl
Muzzin- Schenn
Liljegren

 

[Avilaj07]

Replacing Kerfoot with miller is not worth the assets Vancouver would want. Replacing Ritchie with miller would be, and I don’t think Vancouver is looking at Kerfoot as a significantly superior asset TO THEM than Ritchie might be,

Please just stop, Ritchie was just on waivers and no one claimed him. You'd have to add a sweetener just to get rid of Ritchie. In no way is Ritchie going to be a main forward in a trade

 

[Nylanderthal]

If you add Miller, where exactly does Kerfoot for on the roster? Not to mention his cap hit
You take Miller over Kerfoot 10 times out of 10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Kerfoot, but not on our top six, and he's too expensive for the bottom six. Now if the time to trade him for an upgrade since he's having a decent year offensively.

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Miller-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kampf-Kase
Engvall-Spezza-Simmonds

Rielly- Brodie
Sandin- Holl
Muzzin- Schenn
Liljegren

Kerfoot continues to fill the role he has all season which is middle 6 Swiss army. You could play JT in the middle of Kerfoot and Willy pushing kampf to 4c or load up the top 6. Lots of options with lots of looks for the coach to work with

 

[Nylanderthal]

Please just stop, Ritchie was just on waivers and no one claimed him. You'd have to add a sweetener just to get rid of Ritchie. In no way is Ritchie going to be a main forward in a trade

Ritchie is the cap ballast, it would be significant future assets. Same as it would be with Kerfoot who Vancouver would look at in a similar fashion considering their lot in life in the current NHL.
It’s kinda cute you think Kerfoot would be a main piece in a deal for JT miller, this coming from one of kerfoots longest defenders on here

 

[Dragao6]

I saw this tweet and nearly choked to death but luckily its a joke lol

I really don’t get why chychrun isn’t a target if this is what’s happening
Such an obvious move

 

[zeke]

With a guy like Miller remember that he would not get any top unit PP time which takes away a huge chunk of his offensive value.

 

[Nylanderthal]

I really don’t get why chychrun isn’t a target if this is what’s happening
Such an obvious move

I have a hard time including Niemela in a deal for miller but would do it to push it over the line.
Definitely not offering that kind of quality for Ben fookin chiarot

 

[Nylanderthal]

With a guy like Miller remember that he would not get any top unit PP time which takes away a huge chunk of his offensive value.

Her have a spot on my PP stacked or not. Maybe gives you more options to run two groups and spread the wealth out. I much prefer a stacked pp1 though myself.

 

[4thline]

Keepin it simple double rental: Ritchie+ for Larsson+Lyubushkin. Gives us the ability to trot out a 3rd line quality 4th line, a crazy amount of versality in the bottom 6, 8 NHL dmen and some added size/pk. We already have a studly top 9 with no one deserving to play lower.

 

[showtime8]

With a guy like Miller remember that he would not get any top unit PP time which takes away a huge chunk of his offensive value.

I would still take the deal though.

Miller is a game changer and an upgrade on Kerfoot.

 

[zeke]

I would still take the deal though.

Miller is a game changer and an upgrade on Kerfoot.

Which deal?

 

[showtime8]

Which deal?

Basically any deal that includes a swap of Kerfoot for Miller.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Chris Johnston said they inquired about Chiarot, which I really hope isn't the case. The Foligno deal was bad enough, that would be on another level

 

[TheShape]

I'm sorry but Kerfoot is nowhere near Miller's level. Kerfoot is having a good reason riding shotgun with Nylander and Tavares. He's metrics are actually pretty bad.

Then why would Vancouver want such a passenger in Kerfoot? I don't see what interest VAN would have in him, the more I look at it I'm not sure we're the best trading partners for the Canucks. Another team could offer something more to their liking without the cap gymnastics.

Despite what some think of Kerfoot, Keefe trusts him and I don't think it would be wise to remove him from the roster mid season, you'd ideally want to add.

 

[SprDaVE]

Chris Johnston said they inquired about Chiarot, which I really hope isn't the case. The Foligno deal was bad enough, that would be on another level

Almost every insider has said that. There's quite enough smoke around the Leafs interest in Chiarot that it's very real.

Will it happen? Who knows. But every time there's a lot of smoke around a player, it tends to happen or at least a similar trade happens.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Almost every insider has said that. There's quite enough smoke around the Leafs interest in Chiarot that it's very real.

Will it happen? Who knows. But every time there's a lot of smoke around a player, it tends to happen or something very similar.

If it does, it would likely become the worst move Dubas has ever made the second it gets completed

 

[SprDaVE]

If it does, it would likely become the worst move Dubas has ever made the second it gets completed

It depends on the trade really. Chiarot would be fine if the value was fair or made sense.

But yeah the talks about his value are scary as hell. Similar to the Foligno talks from last year.

 

[thusk]

Almost every insider has said that. There's quite enough smoke around the Leafs interest in Chiarot that it's very real.

Will it happen? Who knows. But every time there's a lot of smoke around a player, it tends to happen or at least a similar trade happens.

Sure toronto have interest like they hhave interest on every player who can help the team but the real question, how serious is the interest?

And maybe they have an interest but chiarot is plan D if plan A B C dont work.

Exemple

A-Lindholm
B Manson
C-Mayfield
D- chiarot

Who knows?

 

[aingefan]

It depends on the trade really. Chiarot would be fine if the value was fair or made sense.

But yeah the talks about his value are scary as hell. Similar to the Foligno talks from last year.

Might be Muzzin insurance?
Third year in a row he’s been injured, two years where it really stung.
But if this is a buyers market, I’d rather wait til the 2nd or 3rd last chair if the reported valuations come to pass.