OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: They Blamed Canada

[DanielPlainview]

Colts getting whipped by the Bungles. Guessing they'll look like a SB contender against the Tomlins

 

[Rossi Rat]

Colts getting whipped by the Bungles. Guessing they'll look like a SB contender against the Tomlins

Every AFC North team going to win today, but this result is fine. Steelers need to beat both Indy and Cincy anyway as mentioned.

And watch them do it. Lose @ Seattle and Baltimore, finish 9-8. Either no playoffs or an easy one and done but keep Tomlin’s meaningless streak alive and then draft another first round bust.

 

[Smoke]

re-animated Joe Flacco has 5 td's in two games

 

[Shockmaster]

Well, Houston just put the Steelers back in the playoffs after getting blown out by the Jets.

The NFL is so mediocre this year.

 

[DanielPlainview]

Do you have to maintain control of the ball after being tackled in the endzone or not?

 

[Jaded-Fan]

I want the Steelers to lose out the rest of the year. This team would get crushed in the playoffs by ..... anyone.

Which means that they will win one game, be edged out of the playoffs, and pick in the 20s again.

Worst of both worlds. Which is the norm for Tomlin.

 

[Josey Wales]

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[Shaftception]

I want the Steelers to lose out the rest of the year. This team would get crushed in the playoffs by ..... anyone.

Which means that they will win one game, be edged out of the playoffs, and pick in the 20s again.

Worst of both worlds. Which is the norm for Tomlin.

It would be the most beneficial for the future.

The better draft position is one thing, but also with the way the rest of the division keeps winning even with backup qb's, there's potential the Steelers could be looking forward to a 4th place schedule on top of whatever additions they make through the draft/free agency.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Surprise.

Tomlin is in no danger of being let go. No matter what. Ever.

 

[Peat]

I want the Steelers to lose out the rest of the year. This team would get crushed in the playoffs by ..... anyone.

Which means that they will win one game, be edged out of the playoffs, and pick in the 20s again.

Worst of both worlds. Which is the norm for Tomlin.

I would really like the young players on the Steelers to see what a playoff game is like. I don't care if they get crushed - if anything, that might hammer home just how much better they've got to be more.

That mightn't be the best possible thing, but I think it'd have real value.

Also based on last year, the difference between making the playoffs and ending 7-10 might be the difference between picking 19th or so and picking 11th. That is far from nothing, but it's not gigantic either.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

I would really like the young players on the Steelers to see what a playoff game is like. I don't care if they get crushed - if anything, that might hammer home just how much better they've got to be more.

That mightn't be the best possible thing, but I think it'd have real value.

Also based on last year, the difference between making the playoffs and ending 7-10 might be the difference between picking 19th or so and picking 11th. That is far from nothing, but it's not gigantic either.

There is a huge difference between the average players picked around 10 and players picked around 20.

I would put talent into tiers.

Top five.

Five to around eleven.

Twelve to around nineteen.

Twenty to the top five or so picks of the second round.

As for the value of playoff experience for young players, you need to know who these players are first. Especially whether KP is the future or you need to go elsewhere. We are miles from needing to just get young players experience. The Steelers are still deep in the evaluation stage.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Surprise.

Tomlin is in no danger of being let go. No matter what. Ever.

Deep down inside, we all know it to be true.

Tomlin can do no wrong in AR2’s world.

 

[DanielPlainview]

Surprise.

Tomlin is in no danger of being let go. No matter what. Ever.

No, they'll just waste another year of their best players' careers then let him go coach the Commanders or something

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Deep down inside, we all know it to be true.

Tomlin can do no wrong in AR2’s world.

It's more than that.

Theoretically it is accurate. Stability is how you create and keep a winning culture. And Tomlin does know how to limit the floor of performance. The real question with Tomlin has always been whether he can ever get the most out of a team. The xs and os of the game. Yes, he won a couple of superbowls but can anyone really point to his game plans as the reason why?

The most pressing question is not backward looking but forward. Without a hall of fame quarterback like Roethlisberger carrying the team can Tomlin win when it counts? Many of us see a bleak future with no end in sight.

 

[Andy99]

Even the Jets with Zach Wilson are better than the Steelers…the Steelers are a bottom five team in the NFL right now

 

[MrBrightside]

 

[DanielPlainview]

Yeah. Joe Flacco is great. It's not that he has a good offensive mind behind him at HC making things easier for him.

 

[Smoke]

It's more than that.

Theoretically it is accurate. Stability is how you create and keep a winning culture. And Tomlin does know how to limit the floor of performance. The real question with Tomlin has always been whether he can ever get the most out of a team. The xs and os of the game. Yes, he won a couple of superbowls but can anyone really point to his game plans as the reason why?

The most pressing question is not backward looking but forward. Without a hall of fame quarterback like Roethlisberger carrying the team can Tomlin win when it counts? Many of us see a bleak future with no end in sight.

I'm not against letting Tomlin stay if they tell him to stop influencing both sides of the ball. Just be a cheerleader and bring in some young blood to transition the team in to the modern NFL.

That is probably a pipe dream of the highest magnitude. He'd never allow that and the Rooney's are far too soft to enforce it.

 

[Smoke]

Yeah. Joe Flacco is great. It's not that he has a good offensive mind behind him at HC making things easier for him.

The corpse of Flacco is better than Kenny Pickett. It's pretty funny to be completely honest.

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

Every AFC North team going to win today, but this result is fine. Steelers need to beat both Indy and Cincy anyway as mentioned.

And watch them do it. Lose @ Seattle and Baltimore, finish 9-8. Either no playoffs or an easy one and done but keep Tomlin’s meaningless streak alive and then draft another first round bust.

TBF... most of the people on this board said 9-8... I haven't watched the Steelers in years... laughed at a few quarters this year and said they would be 9-8. It's an easy call. Tomlin has been mediocre for years.... it's not going to change.

 

[DanielPlainview]

The corpse of Flacco is better than Kenny Pickett. It's pretty funny to be completely honest.

Proves what a good scheme and OL can do for a QB.

 

[pistolpete11]

I would really like the young players on the Steelers to see what a playoff game is like. I don't care if they get crushed - if anything, that might hammer home just how much better they've got to be more.

That mightn't be the best possible thing, but I think it'd have real value.

Also based on last year, the difference between making the playoffs and ending 7-10 might be the difference between picking 19th or so and picking 11th. That is far from nothing, but it's not gigantic either.

Nah. Things needs to bottom out so that real changes are made.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Nah. Things needs to bottom out so that real changes are made.

They will beat indy. Minshew is in concussion protocol. The bengals still play cover 2 and will struggle with muth. Seattle will be a toss up they started lock today and will be eliminated from the playoffs when we play them Bmore could be locked in to their seed week 18 because they play Miami week 17.
Righ now we would play KC but Denver is 1 game behind them for the division. Jacksonville is going to lose the division to the texans who have the Titans 2 times colts once. Jacksonville plays bmore and Tampa

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

It's more than that.

Theoretically it is accurate. Stability is how you create and keep a winning culture. And Tomlin does know how to limit the floor of performance. The real question with Tomlin has always been whether he can ever get the most out of a team. The xs and os of the game. Yes, he won a couple of superbowls but can anyone really point to his game plans as the reason why?

The most pressing question is not backward looking but forward. Without a hall of fame quarterback like Roethlisberger carrying the team can Tomlin win when it counts? Many of us see a bleak future with no end in sight.

There’s no doubt in my mind now that Tomlin has no clue how to develop a young QB.

He’s a defensive guy who’s not really even some elite defensive mind.

If you look at the successful HCs around the league now, they are all offensive gurus, and the rules of the league favor them.

Tomlin thinks he’s smarter than everyone else and he can zig while the league zags.

The league is starting to pass him by and he doesn’t want to change and evolve with it.