OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Congrats to KC, but Kelce was the real winner winning Swift
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Thomas could be a superstar. He’d be worth it. I’m not sure if he will be available at 20 though.
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Mr Jiggyfly
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Some combination of C/WR/T in the first three rounds and I’ll be happy.
I’m assuming they get a safety in FA and vet WR.
That leaves CB and DT as the areas that will need addressed, but they have sunk so many assets into the D, including the big contract to Queen, that I feel it’s time to address the offense this draft.
I’m assuming they get a safety in FA and vet WR.
That leaves CB and DT as the areas that will need addressed, but they have sunk so many assets into the D, including the big contract to Queen, that I feel it’s time to address the offense this draft.
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Yea if you look at the balance of offense to defense, this team is very heavy $$ wise on 1 side of the ball.
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Yep. And just the contracts those positions command once they hit FA. This graphic is a little outdated, but yeah you’re almost paying marquee free agent prices for a 5th year option on a center.
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I don't understand the trade from a money standpoint, unless they restructure. Which supposedly Dulac has stated will happen, not that I trust him.
And yeah, as other have mentioned, I firmly believe that WR will be the pick at 20 or 51. I thought it was even if Deonte was still on the team.
If Thomas is there, I think they take him at 20. I think they would love Odunze but he won't be there or even within reach of a trade up. If Thomas isn't there, I think they go OL (C or RT).
No doubt they have to go after a FA. Maybe KJ Osborn, or Josh Reynolds. I was hoping they would go after Juann Jennigs but he reupped with 49ers.
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It’s why I’m a little reluctant to pencil in JPJ round one. If he’s not almost immediately elite, you’re overpaying even on a rookie contract.
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Ya I get they need another corner and to rebuild the D line, but you can only do so much in one off-season.
The D just has an ungodly amount of cap space being tied up, so they shouldn’t need to keep pouring assets into it.
Focus on building your o-line out and get a WR for the future to pair with Pickens.
Then chase D-line and corner next draft.
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Yeah my assumption is that they'd have to move up, and attempted to imply that in my post. It's possible they'd have to move for Thomas too, was where I was coming from, and if they have to make a move, I'd prefer they go for Odunze.
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This should surprise no one who has been paying attention the last few years.
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Whoever Wesley Cohen is has tweeted that there is "mutual interest" between Steelers and Tyler Boyd.
There’s also a JPJ/Frazier in pretty much every draft. Whereas I don’t know if every year you’re going to have the chance at some of the tackles/CBs/WRs that are going to be available this year at 20.
Gonna be interesting to see what approach they take.
Agreed, but it was also what the guy doing video that goes up at SteelersNow said. And he also said he wasn't a sources guy so maybe we shouldn't take this word for it either...
... but if you had to make a guess as to why the Steelers just traded a guy for pretty poor value, you'd probably come to a similar conclusion due to the many examples of him acting out, right?
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I mean there's a ton of smoke that DJ was a cancer in the lockerroom. He was yelling at coaches and teammates. Pickens now sees what happened to Claypool and DJ when you don't ball out and you're a malcontent. You get sent to shitty teams
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Pretty obvious he was a malcontent. Not arguing that. Impossible to know if it was about the example/mentorship for Pickens and Dulac is the last guy I’m trusting lol
How many drafts aren't full of intriguing talent at some of the premium positions though? You can push back the interior OL positions back forever based on this.
But the team has committed to a very run heavy approach. It's what Smith likes. It's what either Wilson thrives on/what benefit Pickett heavily. I don't 100% agree with the philosophy but, short term at least, the Steelers seem set to make the passing game work by making opposition scared of the run game.
And long term, OL tend to age well and often act as team leaders. The team could use a shot of the sort of energy that Frazier showed when he hopped off the field with a broken leg to avoid a timeout.
Whatever they do, they're going to leave holes. I just hope they can be smart about patching as many as possible, but I wouldn't be mad if C happens early. I do hope they trade down to acquire more capital though.
I agree it is impossible to know for certain unless the team comes out and says it, but it is also incredibly easy to form a suspicion that was probably part of it. After all, DJ was effectively a leader/mentor for Pickens as WR1, Pickens is obviously a guy who needs stronger mentorship than he was getting, and the Steelers have been making it clear they didn't like the leadership in the WR room for a while.
I'm a big fan of the notion that Dulac is awful at his job but in this case, it seems so blatantly likely I've got to say "well that checks out".
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He’s a long time beat guy with legit sources.
He isn’t one to break any big news, but he’s reliable.
Also reporting the new DJ will have his deal restructured.
WickedWrister
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Sweet spot for those lesser valued positions (RB/C) definitely feels like pick ~50
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If the Steelers were a government official, Dulac, Bouchette, and Presuitta would all be considered "deep state."
I wouldn’t be mad with a center early either but when you ask about the intriguing talent in most drafts, I would say the level of talent at the tackle position in particular is rare.
So just looking ahead to next year, do I think a Mims in round 1 and Van Pram in round 3 gives you a better line than JPJ in round 1 and Moore/Round 2 or 3 tackle? I’d guess yes. And say Van Pram doesn’t work out, then I’d feel a lot more confident about finding a center the following year than I would finding a tackle.
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