Speculation: The Athletic-“So, it’s easy to imagine a scenario in which the Ducks move on from Zegras..."

[Gaud]

I don't think either one is going to be true. He's going to be a low end 1C/high end 2C. He's always going to be a little confident/cocky (your definition will depend on if you like him or hate him). His defense has been noticeably better this year, it is going to be a process after starting his career under Eakins. At his best, I think his offense will be overrated (because of the flashy plays) and people will expect more points than he puts up, but his defense will be underrated because of the last few years and people just not liking him. He'll never be elite defensively, but I think he'll be average at least.

How good he is will end up with what kind of offensive system a team runs. Since the league is a lot more fluid now, being able to play in the middle with the puck on offense and have someone else do the primary heavy lifting on defense (especially handling bigger players) will maximize his ability. He's probably not going to be a top 2 C on the Ducks with Carlsson and McTavish, though Mac does have the shot where he could play C on defense and go to his off wing on offense, let Z run the play and set up for a big shot.

So you are saying that it’s too early trade him

 

[FiveTacos]

Hasn't McTavish played C all year? Safe to say he is a C moving forward no?

There have been so few times all three of Carlsson, Zegras, and McTavish have been in the lineup together that it's hard to imagine they've had time to get a true bead on things. The only thing set in stone going forward is Carlsson at C.

 

[JLarucci23]

I know that's its never been officially put out there that the Ducks would even move him.

But what would it take from Chicago to get him out of Anaheim and slot him next to Bedard?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Don’t see Anaheim moving him and don’t see the hawks meeting the price set.

 

[EddieTheEagle]

I don't even want Zegras on the Hawks, and doubly at the price that would be asked. Would prefer to keep on our path and add in other ways.

I don't feel Bedard and Zegras on a line would last very long. On the power play, however...

 

[CallMeShaft]

It'd probably be either the Hawks 2024 1st (likely top 5 pick), or Korchinski and one of Nazar/Rinzel.

Just not doable for Chicago, and anything less is probably of little interest to Anaheim.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Nothing the Hawks are willing to move lol. Chicago's assets are all either completely unproven (Yet) at the pro level or good enough that they're not trading it for Zegras.

Essentially, Verbeek isn't trading Zegras for Nazar or Moore as a centerpiece, and Davidson isn't trading Bedard (Obviously) or Korchinski or his 1st for Zegras.

 

[Ducks]

I don't think there's a deal to work out here for either team that would make sense.

Ducks would probably want Chicago's 2024 1st unprotected + a solid prospect like Nazar/Moore. Chicago probably says no, and no other offer would really come close from the Ducks perspective either. I'm not even sure the Ducks would want to sell Z for picks / prospects right now because that just prolongs the rebuild even more, but Chicago has nobody on their roster outside of Bedard that would fit in with the rebuild timing for the Ducks so it is what it is.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Not a fit between these teams

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I don't think there's a deal to work out here for either team that would make sense.

Ducks would probably want Chicago's 2024 1st unprotected + a solid prospect like Nazar/Moore. Chicago probably says no, and no other offer would really come close from the Ducks perspective either. I'm not even sure the Ducks would want to sell Z for picks / prospects right now because that just prolongs the rebuild even more, but Chicago has nobody on their roster outside of Bedard that would fit in with the rebuild timing for the Ducks so it is what it is.

I'm not sure there's a "Probably" there. Chicago should absolutely say no to that lol.

 

[robbieboy3686]

That’s the thing, he’s taken steps in the right direction in terms of being a team player, and playing as part of the system and his defensive game. But people don’t want to see that because it’s easier to hate him because he did a Michigan goal and was cover of the game.

as for drysdale, I don’t necessarily think he was on the block…. But a guy PV feels fits what he wants to build became available and Philly wanted drysdale+ and nothing else was going to get it done. I’d guess we offered zellweger/lunea + first but Philly likely wanted a piece that could help now… and be a big part of their future.

I highly doubt luneau was offered

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

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[wintersej]

In the end the deal boils down to Zegras and Dostal for Swayman.

From a BOS POV, Zegras is a bit of a wild card in the deal. Right now he is like a young Matt Duchene (although not as good as that) or a young Eberle. You can see the offensive talent, but there is a need to serious round out the rest of the game because the offense isn’t enough alone to be a first line guy. Honestly, I worry about Zegras and Pasta playing together trying too much Globetrotter shit and it not actually making the team better.

From a Ducks POV, they are just way better off letting Dostal mature and see what they have there rather than giving up their best trade chip for an upgrade there. Especially with Gibson still in the fold. Just doenst make since for them.

 

[Random Guy]

As a Ducks fan, no.

 

[Djp]

Goalies are too voodoo to give up thst much.
trading swayman for a young goalie with more team control…sure. Thst could be done if anshrim feels thry are ready to make thst jump.

 

[toddkaz]

Zegras is still living off his Michigan play

He is a 20 goal scorer and 60 point player. Can he get better? Sure, but he is overrated.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Zegras is still living off his Michigan play

He is a 20 goal scorer and 60 point player. Can he get better? Sure, but he is overrated.

And how many of those at his age with 6 years of team control are getting traded?

 

[dracom]

Zegras is still living off his Michigan play

He is a 20 goal scorer and 60 point player. Can he get better? Sure, but he is overrated.

you can tell who the people who never bothered to watch him play are and only get upset cause he got a highlight reel play a couple times.

 

[toddkaz]

delete

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Who are those? Boeser is not very good.

You can tell who the people are that never watched a lick of Cozens play but pretend to know hockey.

WTH does Boeser or Cozens have to do with Zegras? It’s funny how so many Buffalo fans find the need to knock down Zegras and always make it about Cozens. Cozens wasn’t even being discussed.

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

Zegras reminds me of a poor mans Mike Ribeiro a bit. Flashy player. Puts himself above the team. Think he's peaked as a 60ish point guy. I'd stay away trading anything significant. Could probably get him in a few years when Ducks don't give him a qualifying offer.

 

[Gliff]

Zegras reminds me of a poor mans Mike Ribeiro a bit. Flashy player. Puts himself above the team. Think he's peaked as a 60ish point guy. I'd stay away trading anything significant. Could probably get him in a few years when Ducks don't give him a qualifying offer.

Already got 61 and 65 points in his rookie and sophomore season on the worst team in the league but sure, he has already reached his ceiling…

Trash take.

 

[toddkaz]

WTH does Boeser or Cozens have to do with Zegras? It’s funny how so many Buffalo fans find the need to knock down Zegras and always make it about Cozens. Cozens wasn’t even being discussed.

I was wondering where that post went

I am old and technology is a mystery to me.

 

[Sigurd]

Ducks fans, I'm curious what you'd want from Carolina for Zegras?

Keep in mind, we have players that are untouchable like Aho, Slavin, and Svechnikov. I think some other players, like Jarvis, it'd take A LOT to get. So, I'd like to see trade proposals that are at least somewhat realistic (like most people) in your judgement please. Thanks.

Also, FWIW, there are some Canes fans that aren't excited by Zegras; because of his defensive problems for example. So, don't think my interest means it's universal in the fanbase.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Ducks fans, I'm curious what you'd want from Carolina for Zegras?

Keep in mind, we have players that are untouchable like Aho, Slavin, and Svechnikov. I think some other players, like Jarvis, it'd take A LOT to get. So, I'd like to see trade proposals that are at least somewhat realistic (like most people) in your judgement please. Thanks.

Also, FWIW, there are some Canes fans that aren't excited by Zegras; because of his defensive problems for example. So, don't think my interest means it's universal in the fanbase.

well for what it’s worth he was much improved defensively when healthy this year. People are going to stick to that narrative because they don’t like him…. But it’s pretty misinformed at this point.

Realistically I don’t see him available, and I think a lot of these rumors are just click bait. He basically worked on everything the coach/mangement asked…. Was more disciplined, played a more complete game…. Even his offensive struggle to start the season seemed more due to injury/missing camp…. After he took time off he came back and was producing at his normal pace.

If zegras was realistically moved it would be at the draft when teams have defined picks…. How you feel about jarvis is how we feel about zegras, we’re not out here trying to move him or give him away and if teams want him they will have to pay the premium... i know you want realistic proposals, but your perimeters are not very realistic.

I guess ill try

outside of like Nikishin which i assume is untouchable(and really just another LHD to an already heavy lhd pool for us).... Drury and Nadeau prob are at least intriguing... but id need a heavy + on either. I assume there would have to be cap sent back.