Speculation: The Athletic-“So, it’s easy to imagine a scenario in which the Ducks move on from Zegras..."

[Captain97]

Correct me if im wrong, but The problem with moving Zegras is that the Ducks need skilled forwards no?

They would need to swap him with a team that also has a young talented forward they are ready to move on from.

 

[Ducks]

Correct me if im wrong, but The problem with moving Zegras is that the Ducks need skilled forwards no?

They would need to swap him with a team that also has a young talented forward they are ready to move on from.

Ding Ding Ding.

Also, there are no indications that the Ducks are unhappy with Zegras or looking to move on from him. And pretty much every Ducks fan in this thread except for maybe 1 person isn't even interested in trading him. I'm not even sure why this thread is still going.

 

[FiveTacos]

And pretty much every Ducks fan in this thread except for maybe 1 person isn't even interested in trading him. I'm not even sure why this thread is still going.

Because tons of other teams fans think he sucks, but simultaneously think he'd be worth giving something up for. Some of those exact same posters a few months ago were criticizing the Ducks for not locking him into a long term deal at big money.

Seems the Ducks org and their fans have a pretty good grasp on it ... He's pretty good but not great, still has potential for more, and isn't locked into a deal that makes him untradable for the next 8 years if he doesn't pan out.

 

[toddkaz]

You said quinn is just a good player…. I was showing you that statistically he’s below zegras

Cool story bro, should I have used Sidney Crosby coming back from an injury and not missing a step then instead? Will that make it better?

Lots of players miss training camp and the beginning of the season and still perfom. Is that better? Do you want some examples since you seem to be hung up on Quinn?

Because tons of other teams fans think he sucks, but simultaneously think he'd be worth giving something up for. Some of those exact same posters a few months ago were criticizing the Ducks for not locking him into a long term deal at big money.

Seems the Ducks org and their fans have a pretty good grasp on it ... He's pretty good but not great, still has potential for more, and isn't locked into a deal that makes him untradable for the next 8 years if he doesn't pan out.

Didn't I read Zagras is not a Pat Verbeek kind of player because Zagras doesn't know how to play defense?

 

[Bouboumaster]

Send him to Montréal, so we can salvage him plz

 

[Alex K]

Ding Ding Ding.

Also, there are no indications that the Ducks are unhappy with Zegras or looking to move on from him. And pretty much every Ducks fan in this thread except for maybe 1 person isn't even interested in trading him. I'm not even sure why this thread is still going.

Because everyone wants Zegras on his team (myself included)

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Send him to Montréal, so we can salvage him plz

Like ya did Drouin huh

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Cool story bro, should I have used Sidney Crosby coming back from an injury and not missing a step then instead? Will that make it better?

Lots of players miss training camp and the beginning of the season and still perfom. Is that better? Do you want some examples since you seem to be hung up on Quinn?


Didn't I read Zagras is not a Pat Verbeek kind of player because Zagras doesn't know how to play defense?

Where did you read that?

 

[Bouboumaster]

Like ya did Drouin huh

So Zegras = Drouin?

 

[Ducks DVM]

Where did you read that?

Several non-Anaheim based talking heads have said it in their clickbait conjecture articles, so it’s now considered a fact.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Several non-Anaheim based talking heads have said it in their clickbait conjecture articles, so it’s now considered a fact.

Lol.. Honestly.., Till today.. We dont know excalty what a PV player is.. We know he likes them Tall, Big.. And little soft..

 

[Rooch]

Didn't I read Zagras is not a Pat Verbeek kind of player because Zagras doesn't know how to play defense?

If that were true, why did Verbeek just sign him to a new contract? You're fishing for phony details to support your misinformed claims about Zegras (not Zagras). His play is not the doomsday scenario you've tried to portray it as. Move on.

 

[FiveTacos]

Didn't I read Zagras is not a Pat Verbeek kind of player because Zagras doesn't know how to play defense?

McTavish isn't good defensively either, are the Ducks trading him too? If they'd won the lottery would Verbeek have traded Bedard because he's not a defensive ace?

If a GM would trade every talented young player who isn't good defensively, he might as well dump every prospect but Carlsson for veteran checkers.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Several non-Anaheim based talking heads have said it in their clickbait conjecture articles, so it’s now considered a fact.

I guess thats better than "i read it on the trade boards on hfboards from a random poster"

 

[toddkaz]

McTavish isn't good defensively either, are the Ducks trading him too? If they'd won the lottery would Verbeek have traded Bedard because he's not a defensive ace?

If a GM would trade every talented young player who isn't good defensively, he might as well dump every prospect but Carlsson for veteran checkers.

I don't know, you have to ask Pat Verbeek not me.

 

[toddkaz]

If that were true, why did Verbeek just sign him to a new contract? You're fishing for phony details to support your misinformed claims about Zegras (not Zagras). His play is not the doomsday scenario you've tried to portray it as. Move on.

I would suggest you do a little more research instead of attacking people. Its your own team. Darren Dreger is respectable, No?

Also where did I portray a doomsday secenario? Its hard to take this seriously when you can't even quote me properly.

[Darren Dreger] “Several teams have told me, have suggested that Trevor Zegras might be available, and it makes sense, knowing Pat Verbeek”​

Several non-Anaheim based talking heads have said it in their clickbait conjecture articles, so it’s now considered a fact.

Several non-Anaheim based talking heads have said it in their clickbait conjecture articles, so it’s now considered a fact.

I mean, come on. If its you I should listen to or Darren Dreger its an easy choice. Pretty sure Dreger is legit.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

I would suggest you do a little more research instead of attacking people. Its your own team. Darren Dreger is respectable, No?

[Darren Dreger] “Several teams have told me, have suggested that Trevor Zegras might be available, and it makes sense, knowing Pat Verbeek”​

I mean, come on. If its you I should listen to or Darren Dreger its an easy choice.

So teams other than the only one who can actually trade Zegras have suggested that Zegras might possibly be available?

 

[toddkaz]

So teams other than the only one who can actually trade Zegras have suggested that Zegras might possibly be available?

So do I listen to HFBoard posters or Darren Dreger? Hmmm...Not really tough choice there bud.

Dreger is one of the most credible people out there.

Can't fans debate without getting their feelings hurt?

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

So do I listen to HFBoard posters or Darren Dreger? Hmmm...Not really tough choice there bud.

Dreger is one of the most credible people out there.

Can't fans debate without getting their feelings hurt?

Then listen to what Dreger is actually saying, bud.

“Several teams (not the Ducks) have told me, have suggested (speculated without any confirmation) that Trevor Zegras might be available, and it makes sense, knowing Pat Verbeek (a new GM that clearly nobody really knows because there wasn't a whisper about the Drysdale-Gauthier trade)”

Dreger reaching out to two GMs and saying "Do you think Verbeek will move Zegras after moving Drysdale" and getting a couple "Yeah, maybes" would be enough to make this statement not a lie.

 

[RedHawkDown]

While I agree there's no reason for Anaheim to trade Zegras, it's a little weird to see fans acting like there's NO evidence to suggest the Ducks might want to trade him. There's more than one insider that's brought up the rumor...it's not like HFBoards posters are making this up out of nowhere. Nobody's saying "Zegras' time in Anaheim is up, he's disgruntled" like a Gaudreau situation, but it's also silly to pretend like there hasn't been any chatter around the topic.

I once again will reiterate I don't think Anaheim should trade him and I still think he'll be a 90 point player in his prime.

 

[Ducks DVM]

I would suggest you do a little more research instead of attacking people. Its your own team. Darren Dreger is respectable, No?

Also where did I portray a doomsday secenario? Its hard to take this seriously when you can't even quote me properly.

[Darren Dreger] “Several teams have told me, have suggested that Trevor Zegras might be available, and it makes sense, knowing Pat Verbeek”​

I mean, come on. If its you I should listen to or Darren Dreger its an easy choice. Pretty sure Dreger is legit.

Highlight the part of the interview where he says “Verbeek says” as opposed to “I think” or “I’ve heard from people who are NOT Verbeek or otherwise Ducks affiliated”.

I’ll wait.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

While I agree there's no reason for Anaheim to trade Zegras, it's a little weird to see fans acting like there's NO evidence to suggest the Ducks might want to trade him. There's more than one insider that's brought up the rumor...it's not like HFBoards posters are making this up out of nowhere. Nobody's saying "Zegras' time in Anaheim is up, he's disgruntled" like a Gaudreau situation, but it's also silly to pretend like there hasn't been any chatter around the topic.

I once again will reiterate I don't think Anaheim should trade him and I still think he'll be a 90 point player in his prime.

You think it's weird that fans might be a little bit in denial about rumors that a well-liked player might be traded? That's the most normal thing about this thread lol

IMO most Ducks fans are annoyed at the people who seem to suggest that he's definitely being traded and that it will be for like a 3rd round pick

 

[Ducks DVM]

While I agree there's no reason for Anaheim to trade Zegras, it's a little weird to see fans acting like there's NO evidence to suggest the Ducks might want to trade him. There's more than one insider that's brought up the rumor...it's not like HFBoards posters are making this up out of nowhere. Nobody's saying "Zegras' time in Anaheim is up, he's disgruntled" like a Gaudreau situation, but it's also silly to pretend like there hasn't been any chatter around the topic.

I once again will reiterate I don't think Anaheim should trade him and I still think he'll be a 90 point player in his prime.

Mainly because the guy every pundit is using to say “Ducks may want to trade Zegras” are attributing it to a guy who said “the Ducks said they are NOT shopping Zegras, but here is why I think it might make sense”.

Its not a discussion of what trade offer would make the Ducks want to actually consider trading him, its largely )not saying this is you) the typical HF “your guy isn't worth what you think he is, because people in the internet said you needed to trade him, here’s some scraps because you have to trade him.”

Legit trade offers that improve the Ducks have been few and far between.

 

[FiveTacos]

Mainly because the guy every pundit is using to say “Ducks may want to trade Zegras” are attributing it to a guy who said “the Ducks said they are NOT shopping Zegras, but here is why I think it might make sense”.

And the supposed "makes sense" part is that Zegras isn't good enough defensively for Verbeek. But by that same reasoning, the Ducks should be shopping McTavish ... But no one suggests that because it'd be so obviously stupid

 

[Rooch]

I would suggest you do a little more research instead of attacking people. Its your own team. Darren Dreger is respectable, No?

Also where did I portray a doomsday secenario? Its hard to take this seriously when you can't even quote me properly.

[Darren Dreger] “Several teams have told me, have suggested that Trevor Zegras might be available, and it makes sense, knowing Pat Verbeek”​

I mean, come on. If its you I should listen to or Darren Dreger its an easy choice. Pretty sure Dreger is legit.

This played out in textbook troll fashion: you made a baseless contention, I countered with facts, you made it personal. Literally everything out there about Zegras being traded is pure speculation. Dreger's "Zegras might be available" line is not reporting; it's conjecture. Every player in the league "might be available". Verbeek is extremely tight-lipped about personnel moves (see Gauthier, Cutter), and Dreger is looking for clicks. Congrats on taking the bait.