toddkaz
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I haven't read one single post saying he is definitely being traded for a 3rd round pick.
Was it this board or maybe a different thread?
Speculation: The Athletic-“So, it’s easy to imagine a scenario in which the Ducks move on from Zegras..."
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Was it this board or maybe a different thread?
Dr Johnny Fever
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Dreger is a f***ing hack. He's a leafs fan boi who has now decided he can get clicks by saying a GM is "listening" on somebody. No shit Dregs, that's their job. Another GM calls up, they listen.
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Darren Dreger does sometimes run non-Leaf stories with a pretty thin lede. Him talking to a couple of GMs thinking Zegras might be available isn't enough for me to yell fire. Or honestly even smoke. All Dreger allegedly confirmed is that Zegras isn't untouchable. Along with 97% of NHL hockey players
Zegras is a 22 year old on a reasonable three year bridge deal. Still be an RFA. He has a dynamic skill set that we haven't seen the best of yet. Especially as his and the talent around him improves
One of his biggest on-ice shortcomings is defense. Which sounds like he has been working on this season.
I have heard the knock that he takes some penalties. Is that a hockey discipline problem or part of the growing pains learning a two-way game? Good question for the fans that watch him play.
Anaheim looks to be building a real strong forward core, with Zegras included, and this draft looks ripe for some high end blue line talent.
It seems pretty universal amongst the Duck fans here that there isn't anything to see here. Agreed.
Zegras is a 22 year old on a reasonable three year bridge deal. Still be an RFA. He has a dynamic skill set that we haven't seen the best of yet. Especially as his and the talent around him improves
One of his biggest on-ice shortcomings is defense. Which sounds like he has been working on this season.
I have heard the knock that he takes some penalties. Is that a hockey discipline problem or part of the growing pains learning a two-way game? Good question for the fans that watch him play.
Anaheim looks to be building a real strong forward core, with Zegras included, and this draft looks ripe for some high end blue line talent.
It seems pretty universal amongst the Duck fans here that there isn't anything to see here. Agreed.
Let's make this simple
Gauthier-Carlsson-Terry
Zegras-McTavish-???
Fowler-???
Mintyukov-Gudas
Roughly this going into next season (probably Vatrano in that top 6). If you want Zegras, upgrade the top 6 or top pair RHD with a guy around Zegras age or younger. Anaheim isn't interested in helping your team upgrade with a bunch of depth pieces or a draft pick that probably has less that a 10% chance of being as good as Z coming back. Ducks should be past tanking and looking to improve each year, not looking to trade youth for more picks and keep missing playoffs for a decade. If the main piece coming back is a downgrade, Ducks are not interested. Ducks also will be valuing him based off everything he's done and could do, not just the cold 12 game stretch from the beginning of the season.
Ducks need are top 6 scoring and top pair RHD (big guys that can play defense, not small PMD). If you're not offering that, chances are you're not getting Z. I'm not saying he's worth those pieces, just that Ducks have no reason to sell him for multiple lesser parts when we have a bunch of prospects that will need to see what they've got in the next couple years.
Gauthier-Carlsson-Terry
Zegras-McTavish-???
Fowler-???
Mintyukov-Gudas
Roughly this going into next season (probably Vatrano in that top 6). If you want Zegras, upgrade the top 6 or top pair RHD with a guy around Zegras age or younger. Anaheim isn't interested in helping your team upgrade with a bunch of depth pieces or a draft pick that probably has less that a 10% chance of being as good as Z coming back. Ducks should be past tanking and looking to improve each year, not looking to trade youth for more picks and keep missing playoffs for a decade. If the main piece coming back is a downgrade, Ducks are not interested. Ducks also will be valuing him based off everything he's done and could do, not just the cold 12 game stretch from the beginning of the season.
Ducks need are top 6 scoring and top pair RHD (big guys that can play defense, not small PMD). If you're not offering that, chances are you're not getting Z. I'm not saying he's worth those pieces, just that Ducks have no reason to sell him for multiple lesser parts when we have a bunch of prospects that will need to see what they've got in the next couple years.
I could easily see Zegras traded to the leafs during the summer for Marner in a deal. With Nylander signing, and the Ducks having a ton of Cap may be a good fit.
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This rumor was a total fabrication by "insiders" after the Drysdale trade, was it not?
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There were rumours early in the year about Verbeek testing out his value. It wouldn't surprise me if we was offering him but at a very high cost. GMs tend to want to draft their guys rather than accept what the previous administration left them.
Still think we should keep Zegras as he is going to be a star.
Marner has a NMC doesn't he? Why would he waive it to come to a rebuilding team?
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I can see something with the rangers and zegras. Something like kakko +
How? And why? Why would the Ducks trade Zegras, a 22 year old center/winger with 61 and 65 point seasons on the worst offense in the NHL for a winger with a career high of 40 points on a much much better team?
Why would the Ducks make a trade, even for a package, where the best piece coming back is a worse forward? Atleast I could see the logic if it was a big young RHD.
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If the Laffs have yet another disappointing post-season, I could easily see Marner eager to get out of Toronto spotlight... And the Ducks have a large amount of high end prospect talent that should be helping them become a relevant PO team in the not so distant future.
Plus he's only got 1 year left until UFA, so it's not like he'd be stuck there if he didn't like the direction.
I think it's moreso the ducks that would be hesitant to move quality assets for an impending UFA. If they want Marner, they could just as easily wait till next summer then back the brinks truck up
Dr Johnny Fever
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No Kakko would be the plus in any deal involving Z. He is not the main piece you get back for Z.
Yeah that would have been my follow up question. Of course the Ducks would love a player like Marner, but there's no guarantee that the Ducks could even retain him longterm, and if you're giving up a player like Zegras who will still be an RFA at the end of his 3 year bridge that just started, you're going to need assurance that the player is going to stay longterm. I honestly don't see the leafs moving Marner at all, he'll either walk as a UFA or stay.
ole ole
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Yo dawg we heard you like rebuilds so we put a rebuild in your rebuild so you can rebuild while you rebuild.
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let's say Drury and Verbeek are talking, which we know they are right now, what would it actually take to bring Trevor back home to NY? What are you looking for Ducks fans, what would you want? More importantly what do you think Verbeek would want? Perreault? Othmann? Lafreniere? Miller?
name your price, I'm curious.
name your price, I'm curious.
Ducks need to improve their offense or big, physical defensive RHD that can compliment Mintyukov eventually on the top pair (not saying Zegras is worth that, just what Ducks need). Basically, there is no need to move Z for quantity of players that might be as good as him. There are plenty of depth guys coming up at every position, so Ducks can't take on a bunch of contracts either. Think something like the Drysdale/Gauthier trade where Ducks add a little or straight 1 for 1 for a player that better fits Verbeek's vision. The top 6 is loaded with lefties, so if they move Zegras they might go for a righty.
A winger around the same age or younger, or a big RHD with top pairing potential.
The Ducks lack scoring wingers in their prospect pool, which is one of the reasons why they traded Drysdale for Gauthier.
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Tough to say with rangers
If we go package route I do like perreault/Othmann, but really just feels like we’re going extending rebuild. Laf might make sense but I think zegras is worth quite a bit more than any of those pieces
Miller is also nice piece, unfortunately he’s a LHD or he’d be ideal option. Schneider interesting but I assume part of the core.
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ole ole
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"Contract negotiations between the Ducks and Trevor Zegras really broke down last summer, at times, and he is available for a trade."
- Frank Seravalli
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Idk that Seravalli is a guy id trust with information regarding the anaheim ducks.
Im sure PV has heard offers and even negotiated, but i imagine hes asking for a lot more than teams will want to pay.
“John Gibson’s asked for a trade. And I’ve reported that, and he’s said, ‘I am not playing another game for the Anaheim Ducks.'"
- Frank Seravalli
Look, Zegras isn't untouchable and maybe he gets traded, but the return is going to have to be big. And I still don't think it happens.
Well, I guess he's marginally more respectable than the fantasy team writer you last tried to use...
