Sarnia Sting 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 5)

[StingUpdates]

Thetexare other players who made a bigger impact through the year. Sarnia would have done just as well without him.

Full transparency, I have an inate bias against him after the Mike Ribeiro garbage he pulled in regular season in London.

Fully disagree. He changed the team completely from the moment he arrived. Was easily the teams best F. Had a near 115 point pace with us. Was also our best F vs u guys in RD3 by a fair amount. We all have our biases tho lol.

Burke not being on any of the 3 Was a joke. Especially the one of all PBO Fs. He nearly had more Gs than Beck had points lol.

Is what it is tho.

Great to see Sim signed! All top 4 picks + Lominac & Omeri signed now. Team is gonna be so young next season.

 

[robp1219]

There are other players who made a bigger impact through the year. Sarnia would have done just as well without him.

Full transparency, I have an inate bias against him after the Mike Ribeiro garbage he pulled in regular season in London.

Ya I disagree, the guy was 4th in the league in points at the end of the year and he played on sarnias second line without Voit and burke. Absolutely went on a tear after leaving Guelph, I think he is right where he should be on 2nd all star team.

 

[dirty12]

Fully disagree. He changed the team completely from the moment he arrived. Was easily the teams best F. Had a near 115 point pace with us. Was also our best F vs u guys in RD3 by a fair amount. We all have our biases tho lol.

Burke not being on any of the 3 Was a joke. Especially the one of all PBO Fs. He nearly had more Gs than Beck had points lol.

Is what it is tho.

Some good players (Petrov, Robertson, Vierling) did not make it on the three team all-stars. I think a case could be made for Burke over Morrison; not Beck though, Beck is just a much better hockey player.

Great to see Sim signed! All top 4 picks + Lominac & Omeri signed now. Team is gonna be so young next season.

 

[StingUpdates]

Sting acquire the LeBlanc twins from NIA. Former high picks. Now 19. Didn't have the best seasons, but who did on Niagara..

Watching some tape & Andrew (the F) has some solid tools. Decent scoring touch & showed a willingness to drop the gloves.

Jacob (the D) had 27 points which on NIA isn't to shabby honestly.

Said before Seca & Co do a good job taking players from teams that either aren't utilizing them properly or don't see value in & then Sarnia turns them around & they become solid (Romeo, Ritchie, Hoover, Way as example). Let's hope they can do that again here.

Only gave up a 5th, 6th, 14th & 15th. So if it doesn't work not the end of the world. Quite the logjam on D now though.

 

[BiffTannen]

Sting acquire the LeBlanc twins from NIA. Former high picks. Now 19. Didn't have the best seasons, but who did on Niagara..

Watching some tape & Andrew (the F) has some solid tools. Decent scoring touch & showed a willingness to drop the gloves.

Jacob (the D) had 27 points which on NIA isn't to shabby honestly.

Said before Seca & Co do a good job taking players from teams that either aren't utilizing them properly or don't see value in & then Sarnia turns them around & they become solid (Romeo, Ritchie, Hoover, Way as example). Let's hope they can do that again here.

Only gave up a 5th, 6th, 14th & 15th. So if it doesn't work not the end of the world. Quite the logjam on D now though.

See how they do for sure. Hopefully a bit of a veteran presense for all the new/young kids they'll have this year with the massive roster turnover

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

Sting acquire the LeBlanc twins from NIA. Former high picks. Now 19. Didn't have the best seasons, but who did on Niagara..

Watching some tape & Andrew (the F) has some solid tools. Decent scoring touch & showed a willingness to drop the gloves.

Jacob (the D) had 27 points which on NIA isn't to shabby honestly.

Said before Seca & Co do a good job taking players from teams that either aren't utilizing them properly or don't see value in & then Sarnia turns them around & they become solid (Romeo, Ritchie, Hoover, Way as example). Let's hope they can do that again here.

Only gave up a 5th, 6th, 14th & 15th. So if it doesn't work not the end of the world. Quite the logjam on D now though.

Hoover? Was he even on your playoff roster?

 

[StingUpdates]

Hoover? Was he even on your playoff roster?

Got hurt the final game in NIA

 

[stingfan21]

Sting acquire the LeBlanc twins from NIA. Former high picks. Now 19. Didn't have the best seasons, but who did on Niagara..

Watching some tape & Andrew (the F) has some solid tools. Decent scoring touch & showed a willingness to drop the gloves.

Jacob (the D) had 27 points which on NIA isn't to shabby honestly.

Said before Seca & Co do a good job taking players from teams that either aren't utilizing them properly or don't see value in & then Sarnia turns them around & they become solid (Romeo, Ritchie, Hoover, Way as example). Let's hope they can do that again here.

Only gave up a 5th, 6th, 14th & 15th. So if it doesn't work not the end of the world. Quite the logjam on D now though.

How can you say Hoover. I don’t think even had 15 games this season.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out for the D.

 

[StingUpdates]

Sting acquire LeBlanc twins from IceDogs for four draft picks

The Sarnia Sting are counting on a change of scenery to help unlock the potential in twin brothers Andrew and Jacob LeBlanc.

www.theobserver.ca

Seca on the trade. Also says the idea is to be competitive & relevant all the time even in their down years.

So clearly they aren't into tanking or accepting they'll be terrible. Which can be dangerous, but this trade i like because they didnt give up much value. He compared the trade to getting Ritchie. Fresh opportunity for guys who have the skill but maybe aren't in the right situation.

Always enjoy Seca' honesty in interviews.

 

[WorkHardEveryShift]

Sting acquire the LeBlanc twins from NIA. Former high picks. Now 19. Didn't have the best seasons, but who did on Niagara..

Watching some tape & Andrew (the F) has some solid tools. Decent scoring touch & showed a willingness to drop the gloves.

Jacob (the D) had 27 points which on NIA isn't to shabby honestly.

Said before Seca & Co do a good job taking players from teams that either aren't utilizing them properly or don't see value in & then Sarnia turns them around & they become solid (Romeo, Ritchie, Hoover, Way as example). Let's hope they can do that again here.

Only gave up a 5th, 6th, 14th & 15th. So if it doesn't work not the end of the world. Quite the logjam on D now though.

Look at their +/- They were the 2 worst in the league. Yes, on a bad team. But while they were -59 and -54, others on Niagara were in the -20's

 

[howler2]

Look at their +/- They were the 2 worst in the league. Yes, on a bad team. But while they were -59 and -54, others on Niagara were in the -20's

When comparing +/- you must look at Time on Ice as well. This could be a conciderable difference .

 

[StingUpdates]

Look at their +/- They were the 2 worst in the league. Yes, on a bad team. But while they were -59 and -54, others on Niagara were in the -20's

No doubt they had bad years. But there were a lot of guys who racked up the negatives on that team. Hasn't been that big a disaster in years.

Don't ignore it, but I cut them some slack that they were in a miserable, terrible situation.

Not expecting a ton either. If we can get 20Gs from Andrew (only be 7 more than this yr) & 35-40 Points from Jacob (8-13 pt improvement) from Jacob I think we'd be very happy with them & I think those are reasonable goals. Going into 3rd full year & are vets now.

 

[EvenSteven]

When comparing +/- you must look at Time on Ice as well. This could be a conciderable difference .

And who they are out there against. Often, on bad teams, the better players will have bad +/- because they see the opposition’s top lines and pairings.

Don’t know if that applies in this case, but just sayin.

 

[StingUpdates]

My depth chart after the trades:

F:
Vilmanis-Wainwright-LeBlanc
Lominac-Filak-Sikic
Doucette-???-Brown
???-Hall-Doherty

Sim, Harper, Degelas, Soares battle for remaining spots. Way potentially 3C if they keep him as an OA.

D:
Fischer-Hoover
Young-LeBlanc
Omeri-Campbell

MacDonald, Hurt, Barr, Green as extras.

G:
Gaudreau (if back)
Chartier
Surzycia

Position I'm most intrigued by is D. Have 9 guys Signed. I like depth, but I don't want Hurt & Barr (or Omeri, Campbell) sitting a majority of the season. I like MacDonald & what he brings, but it's getting hard to see where he fits in. Can't have an ok 19 yr old being the reason a rookie doesn't play when your rebuilding.

Up front if Lominac & LeBlanc could each chip in 20Gs that sure would help. Still wouldn't make it a good F group, but it would at least make it respectable because Wainwright, Vilmanis, Filak, Sikic should all have pretty solid years & I think Doucette might do decent in a bigger role.

See if Gaudreau is back in net. High hopes for Chartier but don't want him thrown into the fire. Rather ease him in.

1 import slot & potentially 1or2 OA spots (depending Way & Gaudreau) to work with.

 

[WorkHardEveryShift]

And who they are out there against. Often, on bad teams, the better players will have bad +/- because they see the opposition’s top lines and pairings.

Don’t know if that applies in this case, but just sayin.

Yes that's true. But as a 17th overall pick, Andrew putting up 13 goals is disappointing. Maybe the change of scenery will do them good and they will thrive. Hopefully.

 

[Kingpin794]

Yes that's true. But as a 17th overall pick, Andrew putting up 13 goals is disappointing. Maybe the change of scenery will do them good and they will thrive. Hopefully.

It’s doesn’t matter where he was taken. Sarnia knows who they are trading for. Assists are fine too. Means a goal happened too. He had 33 pts in 57 games. That about 40 pts/68 games. That’s a decent enough depth player. Even if he has a marginal improvement to 50 pts, that’s still going to be needed on a Sting team that will need every bit of offense they can get.

 

[bobber]

Yes that's true. But as a 17th overall pick, Andrew putting up 13 goals is disappointing. Maybe the change of scenery will do them good and they will thrive. Hopefully.

Rangers took Andrew Leblanc far to high. Probably looking at their old Steve Spott idea of picking a 5 year player. Never worked for the Rangers. As Kingpin says these twins could be good depth players. Hopefully they work out well for the Sting. Never cost them much really.

 

[rve24]

Good trade. Very good IMO. Low to no risk, small cost, perfect for a team looking to take a year or 2 to transition and build back up. It they have a dwcent season.....great......if not, no worries no real loss.
I guess they contribute to the team at a higher value than cost paid by a good margin. Time will tell.

 

[SarniaStingFan]

Not a lot going on with the Sting but five prospects have signed in the GOJHL.

'23 5th rounder Casey Bridgewater and '22 12th rounder Michael Denney have signed with the Stratford Warriors

'23 8th rounder Liam Beamish has signed with the Fort Erie Meteors

'23 9th rounder Matthew Andersen and '22 13th rounder Lucas Durham have signed with the Sarnia Legionnaires

 

[robp1219]

Not a lot going on with the Sting but five prospects have signed in the GOJHL.

'23 5th rounder Casey Bridgewater and '22 12th rounder Michael Denney have signed with the Stratford Warriors

'23 8th rounder Liam Beamish has signed with the Fort Erie Meteors

'23 9th rounder Matthew Andersen and '22 13th rounder Lucas Durham have signed with the Sarnia Legionnaires

Weird to see those two sign with the legionnaires. Sting must like them to get them to play junior b in sarnia. Both live far away in Barrie and Oshawa and weren’t high draft picks for the sting.

 

[DraftEligibleOHL]

Probably the first ones not to list the actual date in their photo - Sept 29th

 

[cupcrazyman2]

What is the rule concerning players that don't make the ohl team that drafted them ?
Do they have to be play for their hometown jr b team ?
Is this the reason why teams like the Legionnaires don't fill the roster with Sting prospects ?

 

[robp1219]

What is the rule concerning players that don't make the ohl team that drafted them ?
Do they have to be play for their hometown jr b team ?
Is this the reason why teams like the Legionnaires don't fill the roster with Sting prospects ?

No rule, I think it’s a preference of where the sting would like them to develop, and where it makes sense for the kid. Their Hometown usually makes the most sense, same level or hockey and they get to play at home

 

[cupcrazyman2]

NY Rangers select Gabe Perrault @ 23

 

[SarniaStingFan]

Sting d-man Lukas Fischer has been named to the US Hlinka Gretzky Cup camp roster