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Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

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I think Laughton would be my number target at this point - sounds like an awesome guy in the room, plays playoff hockey, signed for next year, and can slide up and down the lineup.

Then either Dumo or Ferraro to shore up the bottom pairing. Maybe we could do Laughton & a 3rd for our 1st, then flip 2 3rds for Dumo/Ferraro.

Connor - Scheifele - Vilardi
Perfetti - Names - Ehlers
Nino - Lowry - Appleton
Laughton - Kupari - Iafallo

Barron & Gus are the first 2 injury replacements which is some nice depth. Laughton and Iafallo can both play top 6 if we get an injury there.
 
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surixon said:
Good post. As it stands we don't exactly have a glut of A young assets.

We have a couple of good mid 20 guys in Snerg and Vilardi but neither have committed long term yet. We also have a good young player in Perfetti. But that is it from the mid to young 20 group on the roster in terms of impact talent.

We will need a lot more in the way of young talent to emerge and our pool while having some promising players also has its share of question marks:

Salmonsson and Yager trending towards good two-way top 4 and top 6 players.

Lambert has been hit and miss the last two years but still tracks as a middle 6 caliber player.

Chibrikov is tracking like a potential middle 6 guy as well.

After that it gets harder to project especially with the following three first rpund picks:

Barlow has trended down in scoring each year since his draft. He's looking like a one trick poney that isn't able to dominate kids younger and smaller then him.

Lucius just can't stay healthy and has had his development stall. Looking like a very long shot to make it at this point.

Heinola has also had his development impacted by injuries. He can't seem to carve out a role here and will likely be gone soon.

That is three 1st rounders 2019, 2021, and 2023 that are looking pretty bad. Flaming out on three first round picks coupled with a miss in 2017 will set the org back unless we get some surprises from some of our late rounders, some of them who are looking pretty promising.

So I guess the question is how does Chevy see his pool and does he think he can afford to part with another high pick.
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You forgot Walton and He who are in the top 10 & 25 scoring in the OHL and don't forget about Ford.
The Jets need to start drafting more Canadians too but if the Jets can reach the final you will have more players willing to sign on as FAs in Winnipeg. Winning trumps a lot of negatives.
 
raideralex99 said:
You forgot Walton and He who are in the top 10 & 25 scoring in the OHL and don't forget about Ford.
The Jets need to start drafting more Canadians too but if the Jets can reach the final you will have more players willing to sign on as FAs in Winnipeg. Winning trumps a lot of negatives.
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They would be part of the late round picks developing well to date paragraph. I juat didn't name them by name.
 
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Buffdog said:
A while ago I looked into it and a guy picked 30th overall has a 50/50 chance of playing 100 NHL games in their career

I'm sure that there are models out there to determine the value of those things, but if you traded our 1st this year for Laughton (just for an example - I'm not advocating for this at all), you'd be guaranteeing 100 games out of him in your organization
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30th Overall:​

  • 1+ NHL Games: 83.6% (46/55)
  • 100+ NHL Games: 45.4% (25/55)
  • 300+ NHL Games: 30.9% (17/55)
  • 500+ NHL Games: 20.0% (11/55)
  • 750+ NHL Games: 9.1% (5/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Games: 3.6% (2/55)
  • 1+ NHL Points: 69.1% (38/55)
  • 100+ NHL Points: 27.2% (15/55)
  • 300+ NHL Points: 12.7% (7/55)
  • 500+ NHL Points: 5.4% (3/55)
  • 750+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
Most Notable: Randy Carlyle (TOR), Patrice Brisbois (MTL)

31st Overall:​

  • 1+ NHL Games: 76.3% (42/55)
  • 100+ NHL Games: 32.7% (18/55)
  • 300+ NHL Games: 14.5% (8/55)
  • 500+ NHL Games: 9.1% (5/55)
  • 750+ NHL Games: 1.8% (1/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Games: 0.0% (0/55)
  • 1+ NHL Points: 61.8% (34/55)
  • 100+ NHL Points: 9.1% (5/55)
  • 300+ NHL Points: 3.6% (2/55)
  • 500+ NHL Points: 1.8% (1/55)
  • 750+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
Most Notable: Tiger Williams (TOR), Felix Potvin (TOR)

32nd Overall:​

  • 1+ NHL Games: 80.0% (44/55)
  • 100+ NHL Games: 47.2% (26/55)
  • 300+ NHL Games: 27.2% (15/55)
  • 500+ NHL Games: 18.2% (10/55)
  • 750+ NHL Games: 10.9% (6/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Games: 1.8% (1/55)
  • 1+ NHL Points: 72.7% (40/55)
  • 100+ NHL Points: 23.6% (13/55)
  • 300+ NHL Points: 12.7% (7/55)
  • 500+ NHL Points: 5.4% (3/55)
  • 750+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
 
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raideralex99 said:

30th Overall:​

  • 1+ NHL Games: 83.6% (46/55)
  • 100+ NHL Games: 45.4% (25/55)
  • 300+ NHL Games: 30.9% (17/55)
  • 500+ NHL Games: 20.0% (11/55)
  • 750+ NHL Games: 9.1% (5/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Games: 3.6% (2/55)
  • 1+ NHL Points: 69.1% (38/55)
  • 100+ NHL Points: 27.2% (15/55)
  • 300+ NHL Points: 12.7% (7/55)
  • 500+ NHL Points: 5.4% (3/55)
  • 750+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
Most Notable: Randy Carlyle (TOR), Patrice Brisbois (MTL)

31st Overall:​

  • 1+ NHL Games: 76.3% (42/55)
  • 100+ NHL Games: 32.7% (18/55)
  • 300+ NHL Games: 14.5% (8/55)
  • 500+ NHL Games: 9.1% (5/55)
  • 750+ NHL Games: 1.8% (1/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Games: 0.0% (0/55)
  • 1+ NHL Points: 61.8% (34/55)
  • 100+ NHL Points: 9.1% (5/55)
  • 300+ NHL Points: 3.6% (2/55)
  • 500+ NHL Points: 1.8% (1/55)
  • 750+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
Most Notable: Tiger Williams (TOR), Felix Potvin (TOR)

32nd Overall:​

  • 1+ NHL Games: 80.0% (44/55)
  • 100+ NHL Games: 47.2% (26/55)
  • 300+ NHL Games: 27.2% (15/55)
  • 500+ NHL Games: 18.2% (10/55)
  • 750+ NHL Games: 10.9% (6/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Games: 1.8% (1/55)
  • 1+ NHL Points: 72.7% (40/55)
  • 100+ NHL Points: 23.6% (13/55)
  • 300+ NHL Points: 12.7% (7/55)
  • 500+ NHL Points: 5.4% (3/55)
  • 750+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
  • 1000+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/55)
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Not to be a negative Nelly, but could you do same for 18th-20th overall?
 
Gil Fisher said:
Not to be a negative Nelly, but could you do same for 18th-20th overall?
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18th Overall:​

  • 1+ NHL Games: 78.3% (47/60)
  • 100+ NHL Games: 63.3% (38/60)
  • 300+ NHL Games: 36.6% (22/60)
  • 500+ NHL Games: 30.0% (18/60)
  • 750+ NHL Games: 15.0% (9/60)
  • 1000+ NHL Games: 8.3% (5/60)
  • 1+ NHL Points: 75.0% (45/60)
  • 100+ NHL Points: 40.0% (24/60)
  • 300+ NHL Points: 15.0% (9/60)
  • 500+ NHL Points: 5.0% (3/60)
  • 750+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/60)
  • 1000+ NHL Points: 0.0% (0/60)
Most Notable: Ken Daneyko (NJD), Petr Sykora (NJD), Glen Murray (BOS)

19th Overall:​

  • 1+ NHL Games: 77.9% (46/59)
  • 100+ NHL Games: 55.9% (33/59)
  • 300+ NHL Games: 35.5% (21/59)
  • 500+ NHL Games: 22.0% (13/59)
  • 750+ NHL Games: 11.8% (7/59)
  • 1000+ NHL Games: 6.7% (4/59)
  • 1+ NHL Points: 76.2% (45/59)
  • 100+ NHL Points: 28.8% (17/59)
  • 300+ NHL Points: 13.5% (8/59)
  • 500+ NHL Points: 10.1% (6/59)
  • 750+ NHL Points: 3.3% (2/59)
  • 1000+ NHL Points: 3.3% (2/59)

20th Overall:​

  • 1+ NHL Games: 86.4% (51/59)
  • 100+ NHL Games: 62.7% (37/59)
  • 300+ NHL Games: 44.0% (26/59)
  • 500+ NHL Games: 28.8% (17/59)
  • 750+ NHL Games: 11.8% (7/59)
  • 1000+ NHL Games: 8.4% (5/59)
  • 1+ NHL Points: 81.3% (48/59)
  • 100+ NHL Points: 38.9% (23/59)
  • 300+ NHL Points: 15.2% (9/59)
  • 500+ NHL Points: 10.1% (6/59)
  • 750+ NHL Points: 5.0% (3/59)
  • 1000+ NHL Points: 1.6% (1/59)
 
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FlappyGiraffe said:
I think Laughton would be my number target at this point - sounds like an awesome guy in the room, plays playoff hockey, signed for next year, and can slide up and down the lineup.

Then either Dumo or Ferraro to shore up the bottom pairing. Maybe we could do Laughton & a 3rd for our 1st, then flip 2 3rds for Dumo/Ferraro.

Connor - Scheifele - Vilardi
Perfetti - Names - Ehlers
Nino - Lowry - Appleton
Laughton - Kupari - Iafallo

Barron & Gus are the first 2 injury replacements which is some nice depth. Laughton and Iafallo can both play top 6 if we get an injury there.
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Trading a 1st for a 4th line winger?
 
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surixon said:
Good post. As it stands we don't exactly have a glut of A young assets.

We have a couple of good mid 20 guys in Snerg and Vilardi but neither have committed long term yet. We also have a good young player in Perfetti. But that is it from the mid to young 20 group on the roster in terms of impact talent.

We will need a lot more in the way of young talent to emerge and our pool while having some promising players also has its share of question marks:

Salmonsson and Yager trending towards good two-way top 4 and top 6 players.

Lambert has been hit and miss the last two years but still tracks as a middle 6 caliber player.

Chibrikov is tracking like a potential middle 6 guy as well.

After that it gets harder to project especially with the following three first rpund picks:

Barlow has trended down in scoring each year since his draft. He's looking like a one trick poney that isn't able to dominate kids younger and smaller then him.

Lucius just can't stay healthy and has had his development stall. Looking like a very long shot to make it at this point.

Heinola has also had his development impacted by injuries. He can't seem to carve out a role here and will likely be gone soon.

That is three 1st rounders 2019, 2021, and 2023 that are looking pretty bad. Flaming out on three first round picks coupled with a miss in 2017 will set the org back unless we get some surprises from some of our late rounders, some of them who are looking pretty promising.

So I guess the question is how does Chevy see his pool and does he think he can afford to part with another high pick.
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First believer our drafting has been atrocious as of late. This past year seems to have been a step in the right direction a little bit but lots of whiffs on first rounders.

And McGroarty isn’t exactly looking like a top 6 NHLer.

This team is missing Marcel Comeau; Hillier has not been great.
 
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