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K1984

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There's no reason to make a move on defence until the deadline. Team is humming along and winning games at a good pace after a bad start. The defence looks really good, and isn't giving up a ton of goals. Accumulate the cap space so that you can bring in a $5 million guy at the deadline, why are we trading for a second-third pairing tweener when the guys who are here are doing a good job?

Only move I could see prior to the deadline is Pickard replacement. Maybe a forward if they ever get tired of trotting out Derek Ryan every night.

I think it's starting to look like spreading the cap space out among a few acquisitions might be better than trying to hit a home run on D. A good, but not all-star #4 right D, a true 1B goalie, a strong #4C and a speedy #3 RW and maybe even a Top 6 wing would be a lot better than trying to hit a home run in one position IMO.

A final roster that looks something like this is the best team we could ice IMO:

Nuge - McDavid - Hyman
Kane - Draisaitl - New Top 6
Janmark - Henrique - Arvidsson
Podkolzin - New 4C - Brown/Perry

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - New Top 4
Kulak - Emberson

Skinner
New 1B

IMO - other than Skinner and/or Nurse potentially imploding I don't see a weakness in the lineup.

Jeff Skinner is the obvious omission here, but I have a hard time finding a place for him when Kane is back to be honest. I know he has a NMC, but I have a hard time thinking that he wouldn't accept a trade to the right team if he still hasn't found a real role by the deadline.
 
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I think it's starting to look like spreading the cap space out among a few acquisitions might be better than trying to hit a home run on D. A good, but not all-star #4 right D, a true 1B goalie, a strong #4C and a speedy #3 RW and maybe even a Top 6 wing would be a lot better than trying to hit a home run in one position IMO.

A final roster that looks something like this is the best team we could ice IMO:

Nuge - McDavid - Hyman
Kane - Draisaitl - New Top 6
Janmark - Henrique - Arvidsson
Podkolzin - New 4C - Brown/Perry

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - New Top 4
Kulak - Emberson

Skinner
New 1B

IMO - other than Skinner and/or Nurse potentially imploding I don't see a weakness in the lineup.

Jeff Skinner is the obvious omission here, but I have a hard time finding a place for him when Kane is back to be honest. I know he has a NMC, but I have a hard time thinking that he wouldn't accept a trade to the right team if he still hasn't found a real role by the deadline.
I think if you strike out on D, ultimately you trade for the best player you can get regardless of position.

I think Skinner is gonna get it going pretty soon here, he's skating a lot better and has been all around the net the last stretch of games. I wouldn't be surprised if Nuge moves back to the middle when Kane returns, and Skinner takes his spot on the top line.
 
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I think it's starting to look like spreading the cap space out among a few acquisitions might be better than trying to hit a home run on D. A good, but not all-star #4 right D, a true 1B goalie, a strong #4C and a speedy #3 RW and maybe even a Top 6 wing would be a lot better than trying to hit a home run in one position IMO.

A final roster that looks something like this is the best team we could ice IMO:

Nuge - McDavid - Hyman
Kane - Draisaitl - New Top 6
Janmark - Henrique - Arvidsson
Podkolzin - New 4C - Brown/Perry

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - New Top 4
Kulak - Emberson

Skinner
New 1B

IMO - other than Skinner and/or Nurse potentially imploding I don't see a weakness in the lineup.

Jeff Skinner is the obvious omission here, but I have a hard time finding a place for him when Kane is back to be honest. I know he has a NMC, but I have a hard time thinking that he wouldn't accept a trade to the right team if he still hasn't found a real role by the deadline.
Jeff skinner ain’t going anywhere. He’s also been fine for a 3 mill player and getting better.
 

K1984

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Jeff skinner ain’t going anywhere. He’s also been fine for a 3 mill player and getting better.

I've also liked his play of late, and he could definitely solidify his role soon here. I just don't know if I would want him playing on the 3rd line in the playoffs if he hasn't established a top 6 role by then. He's the wild card for sure.
 

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I've also liked his play of late, and he could definitely solidify his role soon here. I just don't know if I would want him playing on the 3rd line in the playoffs if he hasn't established a top 6 role by then. He's the wild card for sure.
He’s got nasty hands. We will need them come playoff time imo.

I’m also in the camp that believe he signed here for a playoff run and probably doesn’t accept a trade.
 

K1984

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He’s got nasty hands. We will need them come playoff time imo.

I’m also in the camp that believe he signed here for a playoff run and probably doesn’t accept a trade.

Tucking him next to McDavid and moving RNH to 3C is a formation that we should be looking at, but unfortunately I don't think it's one that will be tried.
 

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Tucking him next to McDavid and moving RNH to 3C is a formation that we should be looking at, but unfortunately I don't think it's one that will be tried.

RNH seems above playing anywhere outside of the top six for whatever reason (guessing it's "the room" pulling for him to be there) but I agree he's better as a 3C during a sustained playoff run:

Skinner-McDavid-Hyman
Podkolzin-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Kane-RNH-Kapanen
Janmark-Henrique-Brown
Perry, Ryan

That's a whole lot of forward depth if everyone is 100% healthy at one time. That fourth line would be the best in the league, no question, plus I can see that third line functioning like the old Pittsburgh wagon of old with Kessel and Bonino.
 

K1984

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Colorado is a team who tries improving meanwhile Edmonton sits on their ass and hopes SKinner remains hot through 82 games

This is now 2 goalies COL traded for.

I think the difference is we can reasonably rely on Skinner playing better, and he already has. By and large he's been pretty good since November 1. Hasn't been without a few hiccups, but his game has mostly been pretty good.

Georgiev on the other hand has show zero indication whatsoever he was even going to ascend to the level of being passable. Much more a code red in Colorado.

I still am dead certain we need a 1B that isn't Pickard though.
 

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Colorado is a team who tries improving meanwhile Edmonton sits on their ass and hopes SKinner remains hot through 82 games

This is now 2 goalies COL traded for.

COL has a cup already too. Standards are higher there
That other goalie they traded hasn't really turned the wheel
 

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Not bad. But I think the faith, at least for me, has been restored in Skinner
haha just wait a week or so when he starts floundering again.

Who cares about getting a guy to try to push him. I hope I eat crow and Stuart has magically became a top goalie. We can all hope.
 

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If any of you actually thought that this management team was going to do anything but ride Skinner/Pickard you're delusional

They're the delusional ones then, and we're wasting this core's remaining productive years trying to make Skinner into a Cup caliber goaltender. It's just not going to happen while better-run teams like Colorado, Vegas and Florida are constantly shuffling pieces and getting creative to address their weaknesses.
 

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Is this trade actually legit though?

This must be fake news cause “teams don’t just trade good goalies” and “who is even available” and “no one trades a goalie this early in the season”
 
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No this is competent management. We love sitting on our hands. We got dat "Hope and wait" strategy
no, not really. Our problems are in the room and they need/needed time to fix it in the room.

SKinner has shown he is capable of playing well, Georgiev hasn't. He hasn't had a good year in Colorado at all and only lead colorado to early exits in the playoff since Kuemper left.

This is 100% FOMO.
 

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no, not really. Our problems are in the room and they need/needed time to fix it in the room.

SKinner has shown he is capable of playing well, Georgiev hasn't. He hasn't had a good year in Colorado at all and only lead colorado to early exits in the playoff since Kuemper left.

This is 100% FOMO.
Skinner has shown he shits the bed then plays well, then shits the bed....etc

Lets hope she doesnt shit it in the playoffs like he did a few times already.

I am not going to litter this thread with annoying broken record posts, but I hate this orgs laziness.

This is not FOMO> we have been screaming about Blackwood since the start of the year

He SHITS on Skinner #'s wise on a brutal team. Lets see how this plays out for COL. They haven't been a good defensive team like Edmonton has.
 

CanadasTeam99

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We have traded Alexandar Georgiev and Nikolai Kovalenko to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for Mackenzie Blackwood and Givani Smith.

Holy they traded away one of a very few goalies worse than SKinner for a huge upgrade.

lol
 

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they are desperate, it might be funny if Blackwood hits the shelf lol.


A 2026 2nd isn't much in the grand scheme of things to improve their biggest weakness. Colorado needed to sweeten the deal a bit to dump Georgiev which is why the other pieces were involved, which we would not have had to do.

Either way, this is the reason why the Avs have a Cup since the cap came in and we don't- proactive management that doesn't accept mediocrity. We, meanwhile, reward it.
 

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