Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

[Zman5778]

An honest assesment of our defense and why we need a guy like Chychrun:

Dahlin - bonafide no. 1

Power - He’s a no. 2 that any team would be happy with.

Samuelsson - He’s fine in the top 4, but he’s supporting cast. He’s not the guy on any pair unless he’s bottom pair.

Jokiharju - bottom pairing

Boosh - bottom pair

Bryson - 7th

Clague - 7th

Stillman - 7th

So when we are down Power or Dahlin, it’s like we can’t even patch together a top 4. And it was so, so evident last night. Chychrun fits in perfectly to that gap of having a #3 that doesn’t have to be the guy but is capable of it if needed. Anyway, I can’t stop thinking about how obvious it is that this is the player we need, so I decided to post this.

We need a guy who is consistently better than Jokiharju. Could it be Chychrun? Sure, though I'm still skeptical of the fit. Parayko could be that guy for 3-5 years. Ekholm could have been that guy. Faulk could be that guy if StL wants to trade him (bonus: he's a rightie to pair with Power).

My point is.....it doesn't need to be Chychrun specifically. And it doesn't (shouldn't?) need to happen at this TDL.

 

[stokes84]

We need a guy who is consistently better than Jokiharju. Could it be Chychrun? Sure, though I'm still skeptical of the fit. Parayko could be that guy for 3-5 years. Ekholm could have been that guy. Faulk could be that guy if StL wants to trade him (bonus: he's a rightie to pair with Power).

My point is.....it doesn't need to be Chychrun specifically. And it doesn't (shouldn't?) need to happen at this TDL.

The age and talent level is a perfect match IMO, plus you have players having career years and a starving fan base, and I think Adams owes it to us and them to try to make a push, especially given the fit is right.

Damn, sens got him. Well, that sucks.

 

[Zman5778]

The age and talent level is a perfect match IMO, plus you have players having career years and a starving fan base, and I think Adams owes it to us and them to try to make a push, especially given the fit is right.

If Adams makes a decision because he thinks he owes something to the fans, I want him fired right now. He should make his decisions based on what's best for the Sabres in the long-term.

Buffalo is not likely to be a legit SC contender next year. Maybe our SC contender window opens the following year........at which point the cap becomes a major concern. Yes, the cap will go up......but Chychrun is going to be due a substantial raise right at the point this teams is becoming a legit Cup contender (we hope).

If Adams thinks that it's in Buffalo's best interest to get him now....fine. But he shouldn't do it because he thinks he owes the fans something.

 

[Duddy]

He owes it to the team. To Dahlin, Sammy and Power who drag the shitshow of defense and goaltending to playoff contention.

 

[Ace]

Who gives a shit who he owes it to. It’s his f***ing job.

His actual job is to build a good team. There’s no second objective. They don’t have a defense or goaltender. They don’t have one coming next year either.

He’s failing at his only job.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

I guess the time is never to add a top four that fits the personnel perfectly, and fits the supposed Cup window perfectly, that fits the future cap structure perfectly...

 

[Ace]

If I told you that you could get Meier or Chychrun without giving up

Tage
Dahlin
Power
Samuelsson
Cozens
Quinn
Peterka
Savoie
Kulich
Ostlund
Levi

id imagine you’d have been interested.

So I now wish any of you were the GM of the Buffalo Sabres

 

[Zman5778]

Who gives a shit who he owes it to. It’s his f***ing job.

His actual job is to build a good team. There’s no second objective. They don’t have a defense or goaltender. They don’t have one coming next year either.

He’s failing at his only job.

If he was failing at his job to build a good team, we'd be in the Bedard sweepstakes. Not balls deep in the playoff race.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

If I told you that you could get Meier or Chychrun without giving up

Tage
Dahlin
Power
Samuelsson
Cozens
Quinn
Peterka
Savoie
Kulich
Ostlund
Levi

id imagine you’d have been interested.

So I now wish any of you were the GM of the Buffalo Sabres

I’d give up one of 6-10 for either of them.

 

[Ace]

If he was failing at his job to build a good team, we'd be in the Bedard sweepstakes. Not balls deep in the playoff race.

Good point. He’s actually built the worst thing.

not good enough to make it and not bad enough to get the only help he will allow. Cheap

I’d give up one of 6-10 for either of them.

And you wouldn’t have had to. Chychrun went for picks. Meier couldn’t return a top 5 prospect from Jersey.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Good point. He’s actually built the worst thing.

not good enough to make it and not bad enough to get the only help he will allow. Cheap


And you wouldn’t have had to. Chychrun went for picks. Meier couldn’t return a top 5 prospect from Jersey.

Beside the point. Play the trump card. Or maybe the Trump card would work too

 

[Gras]

If I told you that you could get Meier or Chychrun without giving up

Tage
Dahlin
Power
Samuelsson
Cozens
Quinn
Peterka
Savoie
Kulich
Ostlund
Levi

id imagine you’d have been interested.

So I now wish any of you were the GM of the Buffalo Sabres

Well for one you leave out the fact that trading the 23 1st rounder which has been a non-started for KA.

NJ gave up their 23 1st, LD drafted 61st in 19, LD 20th in 20, so neither of the prospects that NJ traded are on par to anyone in your list from Quinn on down?

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

SJS was clearly targeting defensive prospects. I don’t see how Buffalo could help them without dealing Power.

 

[Ace]

SJS was clearly targeting defensive prospects. I don’t see how Buffalo could help them without dealing Power.

Targeting defensive prospects and not getting any of the Devils top 3 D prospects?

Yeah…real laser focus on the importance there

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Targeting defensive prospects and not getting any of the Devils top 3 D prospects?

Yeah…real laser focus on the importance there

That would be like saying a trade for Rosen didn't target a forward because he's not one of Buffalo's 3 best F prospects. Or that a Johnson would be a great get because he's Buffalo's best D prospect.

Nemec and Hughes are clearly ahead, but Mukhamadullin could be their 3rd best; and while you don't like him because it doesn't fit your purposes Okhotiuk is a fine prospect (he's not better than Casey though).

NJ had good options at both D and F; SJS took two D, that suggest they preferred them to F. Which makes total sense they're rebuilding get the D first, F afterwards.

 

[K8fool]

I see the new shiny thing and grass is greener.. as the main philosophy here.....arggh..

 

[K8fool]

listening to chychyrun..an unredeemable tool . he'd be great at 31 after his divorce and he finds himself by playing I i me ME MINE.. over and over.

 

[Gras]

That would be like saying a trade for Rosen didn't target a forward because he's not one of Buffalo's 3 best F prospects. Or that a Johnson would be a great get because he's Buffalo's best D prospect.

Nemec and Hughes are clearly ahead, but Mukhamadullin could be their 3rd best; and while you don't like him because it doesn't fit your purposes Okhotiuk is a fine prospect (he's not better than Casey though).

NJ had good options at both D and F; SJS took two D, that suggest they preferred them to F. Which makes total sense they're rebuilding get the D first, F afterwards.

The Athletic had the players traded as NJs 5th and 13th overall prospects

 

[MarkusKetterer]

The Athletic had the players traded as NJs 5th and 13th overall prospects

The Athletic isn’t the be all and end all when it comes to prospect rating. Hell, Snuggerud was higher rated as a prospect than Cozens, and that rating was nothing more than “under 23”.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

The Athletic had the players traded as NJs 5th and 13th overall prospects

I was responding to their ratings within NJ's defensive prospects, not the total pool.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Lousy draft for D so SJ targeted them over forward prospects as there's a metric butt ton of quality forwards through the 2nd round

 

[Gras]

I was responding to their ratings within NJ's defensive prospects, not the total pool.

It would be Rosen and Polpotov at the same rankings in your list simce they consider Quinn and JJ graduated.

 

[StlSwedes]

Squeaky wheels get the grease. So lots of complaining here. But I am quietly content with KA and sticking with his plan.

Seems like for most fans it is suddenly the sky is falling around here because of the lack of deadline moves. I just wanted to voice that I like where the Sabres are at, I love the growth, and I have no issue going forward with the plan. I've waited this long, what is another season?

All these moves seem great now, but half the teams in the playoffs will be golfing two weeks later and all the hype will mean nothing. Sabres window isn't open. Power, Quinn, and Peterka are rookies. When they hit year 3, then it's time to push the chips to the center.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

It would be Rosen and Polpotov at the same rankings in your list simce they consider Quinn and JJ graduated.

I consider Buffalo's 4 best F prospects to be Kulich, Savoie, Ostlund, Rosen

Rosen would be Buffalo's 4th best F prospect. The post I was responding to said SJS couldn't have been looking for defense because they only got NJD's 5th best Defensive prospect. I don't feel NJD had 4 prospect defenders better.

I consider the entire line of thinking to be asinine because NJD has an insane prospect pool, they're not like the other teams, you can get a really good player much further down their list. As a counter example I gave Johnson from Buffalo, just because he's Buffalo's best defensive prospect, it doesn't mean you're getting a better player than NJD's 3rd, 4th, or even 5th defensive option.

 

[TehDoak]

Parayko is probably the #1 target of who is left. Signed for 7 more years. You'll get 3-4 good years out of him, maybe 5. But he brings exactly what the team needs. Great two way play, will help the PK. Can help mentor Power and would give us an elite defense when Power rounds into form. I think his acquisition cost won't be too extreme given his contract.