Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

[WiHockeyGuy]

Leave it to us to have a press conference for a #7 D man

Yeah, why would anyone want to hear from the newest member of the team?

 

[Chainshot]

You sure?

Yes.

 

[Djp]

I don't think they need to do a massive trade, the pipeline still needs work.

But it's like Adams is punting on this season and as a fan and 11 years of no playoffs I just can't accept that. So close. End the drought, get that moneky off the team's back moving forward.

hit the panic button just to make a trade.

it’s utter pointless to make a trade for a UFA rental when if they do make the playoffs, they are out after 2 series.

if you look at the west standing and factor in games in hand the 1-8 teams are separated by about 4 pts. Nashville with its games in hand coukd bea few points behind. Calgary is farther out.

how many of those 1-8 have made moves around their 1st this year?

I’m curious how much of this is lack of forward support. No dahlin obviously hurts a ton. We definitely need to get power some support however. Push Joker down to the bottom pair and get him someone to support him (or just move him)

Samuelsson-dahlin
Power-Yyyyy
Clague/stillman/Johnson- Joker/Lybushkin

This is why the stillman trade is so confusing. We are already anchored down with mediocrity in the bottom pair.

I think a bigger deal is coming.

Stillman played under queenville in a similar system to Granato And he wasn’t bad.

they expect Johnson to sign in late March possibly When ncaa is done.

I can see something like Bryson+Joker for an estsblished Dman.

this coukd be biggerbincluding Olofssonnand getting a F back
i don’t see them moving 23 1st. But PHL 2nd in 23=24 and 25 are fair game.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Our savior on D is here...

I hope this dude become a good bottom pairing guy just so everyone has to eat crow. Yummy!

 

[Ace]

Being held out for trade related reasons.

So Adams doesn’t feel compelled to make a real one to help

 

[HaNotsri]

Leave it to us to have a press conference for a #7 D man

Question one: are you here to take punches to the face?

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

I continue to waffle a bit on how much I think Adams should do now vs waiting until the offseason, but seeing the way some of the players on this team continue to play they really need to cut a few of them loose before next season. I also think too many changes are needed to address them right now, we aren't the Leafs.

Olofsson - Vic has got to go at this point. Scoring a timely goal a few games a year does nothing to counter his long stretches of being disengaged and floating. If he isn't getting set-up for his one timer he's been virtually useless and has dragged down every line he's been on for 80% of the season. I don't know if it's his lack of ice time, or that he got paid for 2 years but he looks checked out more often than not.

Jokiharju - I really thought Joker would settle in on the 2nd pairing with Power, and for a few games here and there he looks like he is. Then he reverts back to making the same mistakes over and over. He's a 3rd pairing guy playing above his head, and I haven't seen enough progression from him to expect he'll ever become anything more than that at this point. He's still young and maybe another team sees enough for a change of scenery type of deal.

Jost - I like what Jost brings, and I love the effort he gives. I just don't see him providing anything they don't already have right now with Gus. If he wasn't absolutely putrid at face-offs that would give me more pause, but I think they need a Jost who can at least get closer to 50% at the dot. I'm not huge on face-offs being super important, but 38% is not something you can get away with unless you're scoring at a high rate.

Okposo - Was really happy to see the rebound Okposo had last season, and was hopeful he would carry that in to this one because he's been a great leader for them. Sadly as other have also pointed out the legs he had last year seem to be gone now. I'd be happy having him as a 13th forward, but you aren't going to make your Captain a 13th forward and they aren't going to take the C away from him if he's still on the team. It's a tough situation.

Bryson - Yea no, go away please. If the coach no longer trusts you to even play 15 or 16 minutes a game there's no reason to keep you. He's played over 15 minutes a total of 3 times since January 1st, Clague has played over 15 minutes 5 times. That's telling to me.

Clague and Stillman I really don't have much issue keeping them as a 7 or 8. Mittelstadt has kind of won me over with his effort and his play when not saddled with Olofsson. Lyubushkin has also looked solid on the 3rd pairing down the stretch. Wondering if his poor play was more due to not being fully recovered from an Injury earlier in the season. Even his penalties are down since then (2 minutes in his last 18 games, 6 in his last 22).

Skinner - TNT - Tuch
Mittelstadt - Cozens - Quinn
Peterka - Krebs - XXX
Gus - XXX - XXX
Extra - Asplund or Jost

Sammy - Dahlin
Power - XXX
XXX - Lyubushkin
Extra - Stillman, Clague

Goaltending is a whole different issue, but I'd be ok with seeing how the goalies perform if they fix the defense, and defensive zone play from the forwards.

My list between now and October -

Okposo - I prefer to let him walk/retire, but I doubt KA acquires a solid 4th line RW, so maybe re-sign him for one more year at 3 mil.

Olofsson - Keep him but trade him at the deadline unless he is really somehow being a more complete player.

Girgensons - Re-sign for a 2-3 year extension. There's nobody else around to fill his roster spot, but he can still play.

Jost - Prefer to move on but again, no good 4th line options so maybe re-sign for a year.

Hinostroza - Re-sign him for an AHL deal or let him walk if he wants an NHL deal.

Asplund - Re-sign for one year, again, no better 4th line/13th/14th FW options.

Stillman - I have no hopes for him adding much to the team, but he won't get traded so whatever.

Bryson - Prefer he gets traded in a deal for a better D-man.

Clague - Same thing unless he's happy with being in Rochester.

Comrie - prefer he's traded while a better goalie is acquired but that's not happening either.


None of the top FW prospects will be ready so much of the FW lines will return, almost exactly how they are now. I prefer a trade or UFA signing to bring in a legit top-four RHD and a 3rd pair LHD. The Stillman trade tells me all of that is likely not happening, because they probably don't run with 8 D-men while Stillman and Lyubushkin sit in the press box.

I just don't see much of any difference between now and this time next season.

 

[TehDoak]

I hope this dude become a good bottom pairing guy just so everyone has to eat crow. Yummy!

"Hey Mr Stillman, I'm really rooting for you to do well"
"Wow Thanks Dubi Doo, I hope i do well too!"
"Yeah, if you do well I can go rub it in the faces of strangers on the internet"
"....what the f***?"

 

[stealth1]

Being held out for trade related reasons.

So Adams doesn’t feel compelled to make a real one to help

You know the NHL doesn't work like NHL23. You can't make a trade as easily as you think. I know other teams are making deals but how many of them are teams in the Wild Card race? Most of those have been sellers. I'm don't want sell a bunch of picks and prospects just to make it in the playoffs this season.

 

[Dubi Doo]

"Hey Mr Stillman, I'm really rooting for you to do well"
"Wow Thanks Dubi Doo, I hope i do well too!"
"Yeah, if you do well I can go rub it in the faces of strangers on the internet"
"....what the f***?"

Id be eating crow with you fools.

And believe me, Im not the 'i told you so' type. That's lame.

 

[Ehran]

hit the panic button just to make a trade.

it’s utter pointless to make a trade for a UFA rental when if they do make the playoffs, they are out after 2 series.

Who's hitting the panic button? After 11 years of no playoffs, seeing them within reach is a high incentive and obviously not something we should ever take for granted. (11 years and counting for the Sabres and at one point 17 years for the Bills).

And I think you're underestimating what making the playoffs can do for this team. These young players need a chance to experience what playoff hockey is like, to learn what needs to be done, and prepare themselves. Playing in the playoffs is an important development step on its own, and not sure it can be replicated in the regular season.

Sure, you could wait until next season for the players to get a taste of the playoffs, but why? It's not like we don't have assets to trade, and it doesn't have to be a major trade. Just enough to get them over the hurtle.

 

[TehDoak]

Id be eating crow with you fools.

And believe me, Im not the 'i told you so' type. That's lame.

Oh Ok, let me fix it

"Hey Mr Stillman, I'm really rooting for you to do well"
"Wow Thanks Dubi Doo, I hope i do well too!"
"Yeah, if you do well strangers on the internet can rub my face in it"
"....what the f***?"

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Being held out for trade related reasons.

So Adams doesn’t feel compelled to make a real one to help

Day to day becomes week to week .

 

[TehDoak]

Eller goes for a 2025 2nd.



Fun fact, 2025 is the last year players will be drafted that were alive to see the horrors of 7/1/2007.

 

[stealth1]

Eller goes for a 2025 2nd.





Fun fact, 2025 is the last year players will be drafted that were alive to see the horrors of 7/1/2007.

Good for him. I am not interested in Eller or many of these guys that got traded the last few days.

Who's hitting the panic button? After 11 years of no playoffs, seeing them within reach is a high incentive and obviously not something we should ever take for granted. (11 years and counting for the Sabres and at one point 17 years for the Bills).

And I think you're underestimating what making the playoffs can do for this team. These young players need a chance to experience what playoff hockey is like, to learn what needs to be done, and prepare themselves. Playing in the playoffs is an important development step on its own, and not sure it can be replicated in the regular season.

Sure, you could wait until next season for the players to get a taste of the playoffs, but why? It's not like we don't have assets to trade, and it doesn't have to be a major trade. Just enough to get them over the hurtle.

I agree with what you are saying, but I also have no interest in a rental at the prices that players are going at.

 

[Duddy]

Who's hitting the panic button? After 11 years of no playoffs, seeing them within reach is a high incentive and obviously not something we should ever take for granted. (11 years and counting for the Sabres and at one point 17 years for the Bills).

And I think you're underestimating what making the playoffs can do for this team. These young players need a chance to experience what playoff hockey is like, to learn what needs to be done, and prepare themselves. Playing in the playoffs is an important development step on its own, and not sure it can be replicated in the regular season.

Sure, you could wait until next season for the players to get a taste of the playoffs, but why? It's not like we don't have assets to trade, and it doesn't have to be a major trade. Just enough to get them over the hurtle.

Not to mention, next season could be harder to make the playoffs. If you got the chance, do it. A better next season, isn't promised.

 

[Djp]

Who's hitting the panic button? After 11 years of no playoffs, seeing them within reach is a high incentive and obviously not something we should ever take for granted. (11 years and counting for the Sabres and at one point 17 years for the Bills).

And I think you're underestimating what making the playoffs can do for this team. These young players need a chance to experience what playoff hockey is like, to learn what needs to be done, and prepare themselves. Playing in the playoffs is an important development step on its own, and not sure it can be replicated in the regular season.

Sure, you could wait until next season for the players to get a taste of the playoffs, but why? It's not like we don't have assets to trade, and it doesn't have to be a major trade. Just enough to get them over the hurtle.

I’m not selling the farm to maybe make the playoffs this year.

any trades should go beyond this year. If you trade a 2nd+ secondary prospect it would be a player with 2+ who would be part of next years team.

 

[Djp]

Fun fact, 2025 is the last year players will be drafted that were alive to see the horrors of 7/1/2007.

I was still inside my mom when we stepped on the moon ( supposedly in a studio by some ) …does that count

 

[Bendium]

My list between now and October -

Okposo - I prefer to let him walk/retire, but I doubt KA acquires a solid 4th line RW, so maybe re-sign him for one more year at 3 mil.

Olofsson - Keep him but trade him at the deadline unless he is really somehow being a more complete player.

Girgensons - Re-sign for a 2-3 year extension. There's nobody else around to fill his roster spot, but he can still play.

Jost - Prefer to move on but again, no good 4th line options so maybe re-sign for a year.

Hinostroza - Re-sign him for an AHL deal or let him walk if he wants an NHL deal.

Asplund - Re-sign for one year, again, no better 4th line/13th/14th FW options.

Stillman - I have no hopes for him adding much to the team, but he won't get traded so whatever.

Bryson - Prefer he gets traded in a deal for a better D-man.

Clague - Same thing unless he's happy with being in Rochester.

Comrie - prefer he's traded while a better goalie is acquired but that's not happening either.


None of the top FW prospects will be ready so much of the FW lines will return, almost exactly how they are now. I prefer a trade or UFA signing to bring in a legit top-four RHD and a 3rd pair LHD. The Stillman trade tells me all of that is likely not happening, because they probably don't run with 8 D-men while Stillman and Lyubushkin sit in the press box.

I just don't see much of any difference between now and this time next season.

Here is my problem. Of all those players you just listed, ..... Girgensons is the only one I want back next year. Thats ALOT of work to do, and only a few opportunities to do it before next year starts. They have to do some work this deadline.

Trade Mitts, Olofsson, Joker, Bryson, Aspland, Comrie and more. Preferably in return for better role players. So do some 2 for ones to concentrate talent. Hino and Okposo walk this summer. Jost is a tweener that could resign for the right price, but I would rather upgrade.

Trade for or sign a F*cking STARTING GOALIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop drafting smallish forwards! Trade some of them to fill bigger needs long term!

I already sent them a letter telling them they can pack sand on their 9% increase until they start supporting the core better with more physical players that actually make it fun to go to a game and watch.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

I was still inside my mom when we stepped on the moon ( supposedly in a studio by some ) …does that count

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Here is my problem. Of all those players you just listed, ..... Girgensons is the only one I want back next year. Thats ALOT of work to do, and only a few opportunities to do it before next year starts. They have to do some work this deadline.

Trade Mitts, Olofsson, Joker, Bryson, Aspland, Comrie and more. Preferably in return for better role players. So do some 2 for ones to concentrate talent. Hino and Okposo walk this summer. Jost is a tweener that could resign for the right price, but I would rather upgrade.

Trade for or sign a F*cking STARTING GOALIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop drafting smallish forwards! Trade some of them to fill bigger needs long term!

I already sent them a letter telling them they can pack sand on their 9% increase until they start supporting the core better with more physical players that actually make it fun to go to a game and watch.

i think its true that everyone not in buffalo enjoys the sabres so much more than sabres fans, what miserable people we've become

 

[EmeraldCitySabre]

I don't understand some of the thinking on here. It's either Adams does nothing or he sells the farm. Isn't there an in between? I don't think any rational Sabres fan wants him to sell the farm, we just realize how close they are to making the playoffs and want Adams to help with that, I'm sure there's some players he can acquire that will help now, but not hurt the future.

 

[Dingo44]

 

[old kummelweck]

Sabres goalie situation

 

[stokes84]

An honest assesment of our defense and why we need a guy like Chychrun:

Dahlin - bonafide no. 1

Power - He’s a no. 2 that any team would be happy with.

Samuelsson - He’s fine in the top 4, but he’s supporting cast. He’s not the guy on any pair unless he’s bottom pair.

Jokiharju - bottom pairing

Boosh - bottom pair

Bryson - 7th

Clague - 7th

Stillman - 7th

So when we are down Power or Dahlin, it’s like we can’t even patch together a top 4. And it was so, so evident last night. Chychrun fits in perfectly to that gap of having a #3 that doesn’t have to be the guy but is capable of it if needed. Anyway, I can’t stop thinking about how obvious it is that this is the player we need, so I decided to post this.