Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

[TehDoak]

It most certainly does. Acting like it doesn’t is blind allegiance to laundry. The players wearing it matters. None of the current bearers of the laundry have shown they can elevate above the bottom half of the league; and that with career years. Until they actually win consistently you don’t have a core, you have a a handful of maybes. It is time for this FO to shitcan this develop players bullshit and ice a winning effing team. They have made no decisions that have yielded tangible winning results. There is no long term in pro sports only what you have done this season. Anything else is pollyanna bs. Win. And do what you need to win again next year. You can’t assume organic growth, because if you do it applies to all teams equally and at the same rate. Everyone has the same odds of improving organically. Use what assets you accumulated while being the laughingstock of the league and ice a winning product. No excuses.

You aren't wrong. The issue is the team wasn't really purposefully built. Rather it's more of a collection of found parts. No major additions, roster shaping trades, etc. The closest you could find to actually addressing a need was the Greenway trade in the last 3 years.

Now, given that, and the fact that they are below the cap floor this year (and could be next year if they wanted to be), the results HAVE been good. However, it's much harder going from mediocre to good than it is from bad to mediocre. When you have a ton of issues and a lot of young players, it makes sense to wait and see what will be fixed internally than going out and spending on people. However, the fact that the needs list for this summer matches last summers, the "do nothing" decision from last summer has proven to be a costly one as addressing just one major need last year would have likely led to the end of the playoff drought. Instead, we opted for a cheap band aid approach.

This summer has to be different. The problems are clear. The assets are there. The cap space is there. We've punted enough seasons away.

 

[CowbellConray]

You aren't wrong. The issue is the team wasn't really purposefully built. Rather it's more of a collection of found parts. No major additions, roster shaping trades, etc. The closest you could find to actually addressing a need was the Greenway trade in the last 3 years.

Now, given that, and the fact that they are below the cap floor this year (and could be next year if they wanted to be), the results HAVE been good. However, it's much harder going from mediocre to good than it is from bad to mediocre. When you have a ton of issues and a lot of young players, it makes sense to wait and see what will be fixed internally than going out and spending on people. However, the fact that the needs list for this summer matches last summers, the "do nothing" decision from last summer has proven to be a costly one as addressing just one major need last year would have likely led to the end of the playoff drought. Instead, we opted for a cheap band aid approach.

This summer has to be different. The problems are clear. The assets are there. The cap space is there. We've punted enough seasons away.

I think there was a purpose to the way the team was built, they just didn’t want to commit any long term resources to a very specific vision because there wasn’t enough to go off it yet validating a particular model.

They spent just to the cap floor, but you can see Adams wants two way hard working players with speed. Tuch, Krebs, Jost are all quick players with the ability to play two way. They picked Savoie and Ostlund as well for their two way abilities. Quinn and Peterka have a lot to learn, but you can see why Cozens and Mitts have been given bigger roles over the last season.

On the back end, they want to get more defensively stout. Bringing in Stillman and Boosh. They know they have two prime offensive weapons on the D, but they want others that can eat dzone starts and bottom 4 minutes.

Just because they don’t dish out olayers we aren’t fans of doesn’t mean the team isn’t purposefully built. But you can tell they do want to evaluate young talent and I wouldn’t be surprised if we continue to see an effort to insulate our young guys with two way talent

 

[Aladyyn]

Feels like a defenseman who can blast a shot from the point is a lost art. I want one who can do that.

Not doing that and dumping the puck in less than every other team are two of my favorite things about this team.

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Will Savoie play with sabres next season ? How good is or Can he be ?

 

[Duddy]

Next season will be ups and downs. But he can become really really good.

 

[joshjull]

Feels like a defenseman who can blast a shot from the point is a lost art. I want one who can do that.

Is it a lost art or a pointless one? Getting shots through matters much more than how hard the shot is.

 

[RecycledEichel]

Did we fire any assistants yet?!?

 

[Chainshot]

Olofsson, Bryson to Pens for Petry. Sabres can retain on Olofsson. Have to think the Pens are going to reload vs rebuild, so getting two players for one helps. Olofsson is a potential 30 goal scorer for the Pens. We was basically that for the Sabres with limited ice time.

UPL to Seattle for Borgen. Leverage Botterill a bit.

In both these deals, tweek and even out as needed. These are just the base ideas.

Sabres would basically rebuild their back end.

Samuelsson - Dahlin
Power - Petry
Stillman - Borgen
x Lyubushkin

The move Jokiharju.

Some of it will be who takes over in Pittsburgh, but there is no way they're taking that return for Petry.

Unrelated, tuned in to the Vaxjo Lakers game again and wondering if they could pull Haman Aktell for the 3rd LD spot next year.

 

[MOGlLNY]

I think everybody is now in sync that we know exactly what needs to be addressed and there’s no more “evaluation year” excuse. Time to push.

Last year I believe it was a bit different, most were willing to let Adams have the year. And I do believe it benefited us, we have a much more clear idea of what moves out and in need to be made.

 

[sabresfan129103]

Varlamov and Andersen are both UFA's. Might be an interesting idea for a stop gap tender. 2 years @ $5million per.

 

[Ehran]

Is it a lost art or a pointless one? Getting shots through matters much more than how hard the shot is.

Agreed, in general. A harder shot is much more difficult for a goalie to handle, and would produce more rebounds, you would think. And rebounds more than goal scoring seems to be the intent of most shots from the point.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

I'd rather they deal a prospect for an actual defenseman. Don't sweat trying to develop the defenseman and perhaps messing up the trade, get the finished product(s).

Definitely my first choice. I know my targets.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Some of it will be who takes over in Pittsburgh, but there is no way they're taking that return for Petry.

Unrelated, tuned in to the Vaxjo Lakers game again and wondering if they could pull Haman Aktell for the 3rd LD spot next year.

Idk. Olofsson isn’t nobody. He’s just not a good fit in Buffalo. He’s got 30 goals to offer a team and a great shot on the PP. that’s not a small trading chip.

 

[Beerz]

October yet?

 

[Snippit]

13th overall should absolutely be in play for a defenseman. Hell, 2024 1st can be as well.

 

[zenthusiast]

Address the lingering weaknesses

 

[toddkaz]

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Varlamov and Andersen are both UFA's. Might be an interesting idea for a stop gap tender. 2 years @ $5million per.

NYI will get first shot at Varlamov. I am sure its up to them and he will probably resign.

 

[RefsIdeas]

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NYI will get first shot at Varlamov. I am sure its up to them and he will probably resign.

Possibly. He may have to take a pay cut if that’s the case. NYI doesn’t have a ton of cap to throw around.

 

[Chainshot]

Agreed, in general. A harder shot is much more difficult for a goalie to handle, and would produce more rebounds, you would think. And rebounds more than goal scoring seems to be the intent of most shots from the point.

They're easier to block and disrupt, per the league data.

 

[Chainshot]

So... time to retire this in favor of an off-season wishlist thread here - Speculation: - Sabres Summer Speculation 2023 Edition. It's been fun.