Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

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im for scummy, scummy wins because you win by suppressing skill and scum injures skilled players and then you win with the more skilled roster

players who check spend a lot of time watching skilled players pass the puck around them, then the whistle blows and marchand spears them in the balls after the play

why do we have great stories about 4th liners showing up in the playoffs? because the skilled guys all have 3 broken ribs and a fractured thumb, partially torn pecks, meanwhile 12minute a night dan paille kills off 4 penalties a night and gets a tap in during game 6 because hedman sprained his ankle 3 weeks when Depth McGoon boarded him in round 1

and that brings me to why i like the playoff format, because we get the best matchups in round 1... when the skilled players are still healthy

It's part of my desire to see them have more high-skill dirtbags so they can inflict more of it. It doesn't help to have the usual Sabre method of a singular guy and expect everyone else to just not have to step up because they have "a" guy. It's more than that. I honestly think Quinn has it in him and sometimes Peterka. But it isn't enough to just skate through the other team chopping at ankles and throwing elbows. You have to have guys who are going to inflict that in the playoffs.
 

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Any single stat will have outliers.

There are also multiple ways to build a winning team. But, the best teams, of which Boston and TB are two, tend to be multiple in that they have skill and they have mental and physical grit.

That is why you see TB giving up 1st+ for guys like Jeannot, Hagel, Goodrow, & Coleman. They want that mix to go with their skill guys.

It isn't about just being physical. It's having different guys to play different roles.
ya teams do stupid things that dont result in wins all the time, see billbo and the patriots

but progression means we eventually give up on those things

It's part of my desire to see them have more high-skill dirtbags so they can inflict more of it. It doesn't help to have the usual Sabre method of a singular guy and expect everyone else to just not have to step up because they have "a" guy. It's more than that. I honestly think Quinn has it in him and sometimes Peterka. But it isn't enough to just skate through the other team chopping at ankles and throwing elbows. You have to have guys who are going to inflict that in the playoffs.
thats the key, you dont go out hunting for physical play, but when a high skilled player that also is physical comes around, you dont ring your hands about which first round pick youre willing to send to san jose, you package your elite skilled players and ship them to sj and put that guy on your roster
 

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ya teams do stupid things that dont result in wins all the time, see billbo and the patriots

but progression means we eventually give up on those things
If you look at the bulk of recent CF & SCF teams, you see lots of those guys.

So, saying they do not result in winning in the playoffs doesn't make sense to me.

The Leafs haven't wanted for elite scoring talent during their time failing to get out of the first round.
 

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If you look at the bulk of recent CF & SCF teams, you see lots of those guys.

So, saying they do not result in winning in the playoffs doesn't make sense to me.

The Leafs haven't wanted for elite scoring talent during their time failing to get out of the first round.
i know you dont understand what im saying, but its not a hill im willing to die on so lets just leave it because this is the third post where you've just repeated what im saying back to me
 

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It's part of my desire to see them have more high-skill dirtbags so they can inflict more of it. It doesn't help to have the usual Sabre method of a singular guy and expect everyone else to just not have to step up because they have "a" guy. It's more than that. I honestly think Quinn has it in him and sometimes Peterka. But it isn't enough to just skate through the other team chopping at ankles and throwing elbows. You have to have guys who are going to inflict that in the playoffs.
You have to have a guy who the other teams know will take out a skill player if you go after one of ours. Linseman, Marchand hell Crosby with his nut shots don't go after the Cernaks, they will go after Kuch or Cirelli. That is self policing. Sending Stillwater after Cernak just puts you on the pk.
 

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He did trade Eichel for more than futures...
I did mention that in the original post of this subtopic a page or two back. Adams did successfully swap one roster player(eichel) for another(tuch) + futures.

How many other meaningful roster players has he acquired?

His first and only futures for roster player trade was something we all hated. Bloom for Stillman.

His only meaningful UFA signing was a complete bust. Hall

I'm not saying he won't be able to take the next full step of adding talent to the active roster, but it is the most difficult step and the baby steps he's taken so far do not appear promising.
 
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I did mention that in the original post of this subtopic a page or two back. Adams did successfully swap one roster player(eichel) for another(tuch) + futures.

How many other meaningful roster players has he acquired?

His first and only futures for roster player trade was something we all hated. Bloom for Stillman.

His only meaningful UFA signing was a complete bust. Hall

I'm not saying he won't be able to take the next full step of adding talent to the active roster, but it is the most difficult step and the baby steps he's taken so far do not appear promising.
Got it. I didn't see that older post.

I'm fine avoiding UFAs in general unless we're good enough to avoid a big overpay. Seems like he's learned that lesson. I doubt the Stillman trade is indicative of anything because it's been a couple weeks since forever of even contemplating trading futures for currents.
 

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I think the issue with Joker is that his blunders are often extremely easy to see. I thought he's been rather quiet and solid outside of his 2 brain cramps per game

It's more that he's making many of the mistakes he was making last year and even the year before for me - passes going through him, odd pinches, poor angling on his man where he can't get leverage and loses position along the wall, chasing.
 

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I don't think Lance was trying to shit on Reinhart.

I was tho.
ya but Im not usually surprised when you have a questionable take

still elaves the question how reinharts stats from years ago give context to mitts numbers this year, mitts played on those teams, he didnt do shit
 

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ya but Im not usually surprised when you have a questionable take

still elaves the question how reinharts stats from years ago give context to mitts numbers this year, mitts played on those teams, he didnt do shit
From Lance's perspective it has more to do with the Mitts hate on Twitter. I think all he is saying is that look.. Mitts is on pace for a 50+ season.. Reinhart who you guys love only did that once here.. so maybe relax on Mitts
 

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Lance definitely was trying to prove a point that Twitter had a lovefest for Sam and wants Mitts shipped out for a box of rocks. Don't think he's saying they're comparable.
i mean he used the words "for context"

i just wanted to know what the context was and apparently the context is people talk about both on twitter

which id have less issue with if mitts wasnt also on those shit sabres team and was one of the shit players, now we are 2 season and an entirely new regime later and reinhart is still out producing mitts and even though mitts production has gone way up this year, its still behind reinhart's

but i will accept that the axe i was looking for is him not liking bad twitter takes, which i think we can all agree with

maybe it was different on twitter but reinhart took a lot of shit when he was here as well, especially from management
 

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Might be worth keeping around for a while...


Yeah. Away from Olofsson where everyone is magically better

I don't think Lance was trying to shit on Reinhart.

I was tho.
If youve ever listened to his podcast…it isn’t safe to rule out a slight shot at Reinhart. or at least not surprising he’d take a chance to show him in a less than flattering light.
 
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