Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

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Puppa2Miller

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It is most certainly very concerning that after the giant turd they pinched yesterday they need to have to do line sprints after not being focused to start practice.
I think it is at least probable that Granato intended to do this and looked for whatever small excuse he could find. To me, the last 2 games by themselves make this a deserving punishment.
 
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In my opinion, Players. In the interest of finding some new prospect types, they have only a couple of guys who are contact and traffic based and none of them are at the top of their prospect list so they're further away. They have some intermittently applied size in Tuch and Cozens in their top 6 and they could certainly use more. There are guys who draw the team into the fray, who initiate contact or stir things up to get their team involved. Sometimes Skinner is that but that's not an always thing. The Cozens line has very little sustained cycle as the kids get pushed around and pushed off or are picking themselves up off the ice. Jost's usual line of late is still not consistent enough IMO.
I agree. This is the genesis of where I start wanting concentration of asset trades. We have some prospects who can defend well, or skate fast, some that can shoot, or pass exceptionally well, and even have a couple larger prospects. What we don't have is high end prospects that have all those things, especially not size with skill. So you may have to take a few of them and concentrate them into one player. Like Timo Meier who is an excellent skater, decent defender, an elite shooter, and brings it with a physical 6"1" 220 lb body. Tuch, and eventually Cozens are the only players we have like this. Meier - Cozens - Tuch would be a force.
 

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Sometimes I wake up at night afraid of them using their first round pick on a defenseman. Knowing that waiting three or four years for them to make the league will be the new position we can’t upgrade so as to not block them. The drought now old enough to drive.
 
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It is most certainly very concerning that after the giant turd they pinched yesterday they need to have to do line sprints after not being focused to start practice.
They had a chance to be In the playoffs and got smoked in every facet against Carolina. Came back very well against Calgary but they were bleeding off man rushes at the end of the first and it just kept happening. This team cannot overcome a stacked neutral zone
 

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Okposo has a ntc. That is accurate

Nobody else but us is going to waste a roster spot on a goalie who can only play 1 game a week down the stretch.

But Girgensons has some value. IF we fall out of the running, there is zero reason not to see if he has value. Same with pretty much any non long term player. Mittelstadt, Olofsson, Bryson, Lybushkin, etc.

We will see though. We probably stay close enough that neither selling or buying is a viable option.

Yea the team isn’t selling off everyone if they aren’t in contention. I think the reasons are obvious. But your framing of what Anderson means to the teams shows you’re missing the point
 

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Sometimes I wake up at night afraid of them using their first round pick on a defenseman. Knowing that waiting three or four years for them to make the league will be the new position we can’t upgrade so as to not block them. The drought now old enough to drive.

I don’t even know what you’re getting at anymore.
 

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It is most certainly very concerning that after the giant turd they pinched yesterday they need to have to do line sprints after not being focused to start practice.
Im glad Granato isn't playing around with them, though.
 

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It would be a very Tampa move. Which is why we'd be better off IMO signing him to an extension (3 years or less) and keeping him. Because to get to where teams like Tampa are, we need guys like Girgensons for that role, and with Asplund falling off a cliff this year, we really don't have anyone who does what Zemgus does on the roster or in the pipeline.

Just sign him this summer.

There is literally nothing stopping the Sabres from saying "Hey, this is a 3 year contract for you. We are sending you to a contender for a reward for your hard work. This summer, if you want to come back, this contract will be waiting for you"

And if he doesn't want to come back, he wasn't going to sign anyways.
 
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So, I'm still stuck on the idea of Karlsson.

IF we could sell him on making a super defense of him, Dahlin, and Power.

We can make the cap space work.

If we sign Power to a McAvoy-esque bridge deal (3 years x 6M or so), his bridge deal would expire as Karlsson's does (though the way its structured he probably retires a year early, his last year only pays 1.5M in salary). With no retention, my guess is the cost will be expensive...not insane however.

Take a big swing. If it doesn't work....we still have a good defense. No reason we couldn't rest him, give him maintenance days moving forward, even if it means carrying 8 d-men at times. He will spend part of the remaining time on his contract on IR, but he's still an elite d-man when healthy
 

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So, I'm still stuck on the idea of Karlsson.

IF we could sell him on making a super defense of him, Dahlin, and Power.

We can make the cap space work.

If we sign Power to a McAvoy-esque bridge deal (3 years x 6M or so), his bridge deal would expire as Karlsson's does (though the way its structured he probably retires a year early, his last year only pays 1.5M in salary). With no retention, my guess is the cost will be expensive...not insane however.

Take a big swing. If it doesn't work....we still have a good defense. No reason we couldn't rest him, give him maintenance days moving forward, even if it means carrying 8 d-men at times. He will spend part of the remaining time on his contract on IR, but he's still an elite d-man when healthy
How do you plan to dole out PP1 minutes?

I do not believe that Karlsson approves a trade to a team that likely has him playing PP2 like Buffalo.

Plus, I do not like the fit of Power-Karlsson together. If the Sabres are trading for a 30+ D, I like Ekholm and Parayko as better potential options given that their salaries are lower and they seem like much better style fits with Power.
 
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How do you plan to dole out PP1 minutes?

Just play Dahlin/Karlsson. Do we have 4 forwards better on the PP than Karlsson is?

I do not believe that Karlsson approves a trade to a team that likely has him playing PP2 like Buffalo.


See above.

Plus, I do not like the fit of Power-Karlsson together. If the Sabres are trading for a 30+ D, I like Ekholm and Parayko as better potential options given that their salaries are lower and they seem like much better style fits with Power.

Yeah, that is my biggest concern is what happens if Power/Karlsson don't mesh. Worst case scenario is you have Samuelsson-Dahlin, XXXX-Karlsson, Power-XXXX....which is still an elite defense.
 

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Just play Dahlin/Karlsson. Do we have 4 forwards better on the PP than Karlsson is?




See above.



Yeah, that is my biggest concern is what happens if Power/Karlsson don't mesh. Worst case scenario is you have Samuelsson-Dahlin, XXXX-Karlsson, Power-XXXX....which is still an elite defense.
You would have to completely change how they run the PP1 if they were to try and have Dahlin and Karlsson out there together. And it might make the PP1 worse.

I doubt that is a gamble the Sabres would make. And I don't know that it would be appealing to Karlsson who has the hammer.

And the problem of spreading Dahlin, Power, and Karlsson across three pairs at ES is the minutes distribution.

There are going to be 10-12 minutes of PP/PK time per game.

Those three D only getting 16-17 minutes a night on ES may not be ideal. Especially since this would mean that Power and Karlsson are playing with less than ideal partners in all likelihood.
 
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