The San Jose Sharks are horror-bad

who_me?

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Player like Will Smith shouldn't be in the NHL. Needs to be developed and given better deployment and a better environment to succeed. Right now the Sharks are ruining his development.
it's all part of Mike Grier's master plan, you just don't understand. Once Will Smith's ELC is up, Grier will be able to point at his abysmal numbers and negotiate a team friendly extension on his terms. Mike Grier is playing 4D chess while his critics are playing checkers in their pajamas.
 

Mattb124

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Another thing that nobody has mentioned with regards to this year is we now have a first year coach that has no prior experience coaching at the NHL level, and to say he's going through some growing pains is an understatement. Right now he looks like he's in over his head and that may very well be true with how he's gotten tactically spanked by veteran coaches up to this point. It's gonna take some time and some very hard losses before we find out if he has what it takes or not.
How many new players are there on this year’s team? Pinning the lack of success on the coach without acknowledging player turn-over (which is on the GM) is lazy analysis.
 

Bizz

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How many new players are there on this year’s team? Pinning the lack of success on the coach without acknowledging player turn-over (which is on the GM) is lazy analysis.

On paper we are better than last year, so that would make him look even worse than he has been.
 

Mattb124

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On paper we are better than last year, so that would make him look even worse than he has been.
If the game was played on paper I would agree. But those who follow the game understand that bringing in a new coach, implementing a new system, and adding a significant number of new players all make it more difficult for the team to coalesce.
 
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it's all part of Mike Grier's master plan, you just don't understand. Once Will Smith's ELC is up, Grier will be able to point at his abysmal numbers and negotiate a team friendly extension on his terms. Mike Grier is playing 4D chess while his critics are playing checkers in their pajamas.
Joking aside, Grier and the Sharks need to ensure that their kids develop. Record isn't important, but there will come a time when the players tune out the HC if they lose that much this season and next season. Can't afford to have the kids develop bad habits which they won't break later.

Goes for any rebuilding club whenever their best prospects make the NHL roster.
 

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If the game was played on paper I would agree. But those who follow the game understand that bringing in a new coach, implementing a new system, and adding a significant number of new players all make it more difficult for the team to coalesce.

What new system? Warsofsky hasn't changed a damn thing from Quinn's failed "system".
 

Mattb124

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What new system? Warsofsky hasn't changed a damn thing from Quinn's failed "system".
That isn’t true, but whatever. No point in trying to have a productive discussion with you.

‘"The last two years definitely have been tough, but there's a lot of new guys in the room,” Grier said. “There's a new coaching staff, so to expect guys to come out and gel right away, chemistry-wise, learn the system, what the coaches want, the expectations, and everything, it's going to take some time."’


Cassie Campbell-Pascal even made a comment saying the same thing during a last night’s game.
 

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AHEM.......

But seriously, I think we can put to bed the idea that these Sharks are just as bad and just the same as last year. 3-7-2 instead of 1-10-1 with two 10-spot losses. And this year without our 1C, Lord, and Savior.

Fully expect the Sharks to finish bottom 3 again this year, money on bottom 1. Three wins weren't exactly against the league's best. But horror-bad is not as likely apt this season. Record, stats, advanced stats, and the eye test show it.
 
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Mattb124

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4 wins in the past 5 games. Who could have anticipated the team would improve after a rough start following the hiring of a new coach who implemented a new system and the addition of a bunch of new player who had no prior chemistry?
 
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For some perspective, as good as Granlund has looked, he was barely in the top six in Nashville, there are others though......
Granlund is still good. He was great in Minnesota and always great for Finland. Nashville and Pittsburgh weren’t good fits and he was nursing injuries. His resume is 75% good and 25% mediocre. Lot of ignorant fans only focus on the 25%.
 
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matt trick

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If you guaranteed me one of Hagens, Martone, Misa, or Schaefer at the draft, I'd take it. I think all four will be franchise pillars.

Hagens, Martone, and Misa are off to ridiculous starts, and pre-mono, Schaefer looked like a future top pairing guy with good size and excellent mobility and intelligence. Schaefer would likely be the best Sharks drafted d prospect in the team's history.

McQueen and Frondell look very interesting too, but the top 4 look like franchise pillars. Right now, with first overall, I could see an argument for any of three forwards and Schaefer perfectly fits the team's need.
 

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