Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[IslandersFan17]

I get what you're saying too. Hey, if Lou signs Strome I'll be hoping I eat my words.

Fair enough! I am more also just bracing my self for that to be the level of player we ultimately bring in, before missing out on other talent, because I don’t see Lou moving out a lot of money otherwise.

 

[Top Corner]

The only 2 players that might be possible and might help advance the cause would be
Trocheck or Mikheyev but this can only happen if a current player with salary is moved , otherwise
forget it. Still feel they need a decent depth D man as a #6 with the youth Dmen as fillers when injuries happen
and bank on a few injuries throughout the season

 

[isles55]

As it stands, we don’t have the cap space to sign a top 6 forward. We could sign a player then trade someone later, but I don’t see it happening. There are enough good players to sign, why would a team trade for Bailey or Beauvillier?

I wouldn’t expect much from this off-season.

 

[danteipp]

Maybe I will be wrong, but Gaudreau potentially signing with the Devil's seems like a bad fit to me.

Right now they are projecting to be a top-heavy team with lots of skilled forwards, some of whom are on the slighter side.

Gaudreau feels like a redundancy and a poor use of their cap space.

I would also have serious questions about culture and leadership for a team with the Hughes brothers, Hamilton, etc.

It feels like they need to focus on building up their defense and simply supplement the forward group organically, not add a major piece up front and try to rush their build.

 

[periferal]

Yes to JT MIller
Yes to Patrick Kane
Yes to Tarasenko
No to Gaudreau



(All 3 "yeses" must come with a contract extension...And yes I understand it costs no assets to acquire Gaudreau)

 

[Throttle]

CHI seems to be giving all the signs to Kane and Toews that you guys should move on.

 

[saintunspecified]

It feels like they need to focus on building up their defense and simply supplement the forward group organically, not add a major piece up front and try to rush their build.

I agree with you - he doesn't seem to be a great fit there. And I don't think they'd be an attractive destination. I also don't see how he fits in Philly unless they make an absolute ton of moves.

Maybe there is a chance...

 

[doublechili]

Well if nothing else, I’m excited that in two days, Pulock’s NTC will kick in and we can put aside the trade talk for a bit. He’s not going anywhere.

I tend to agree, and I was someone who mentioned the possibility (but mostly in the context of Trotz signing in WPG and bringing Pulock in via a trade).

Fair enough! I am more also just bracing my self for that to be the level of player we ultimately bring in, before missing out on other talent, because I don’t see Lou moving out a lot of money otherwise.

BTW, I just read something that Strome and McDavid were teammates in juniors. So that could be where he latches on to replace Kane.

 

[seafoam]

Maybe I will be wrong, but Gaudreau potentially signing with the Devil's seems like a bad fit to me.

Right now they are projecting to be a top-heavy team with lots of skilled forwards, some of whom are on the slighter side.

Gaudreau feels like a redundancy and a poor use of their cap space.

I would also have serious questions about culture and leadership for a team with the Hughes brothers, Hamilton, etc.

It feels like they need to focus on building up their defense and simply supplement the forward group organically, not add a major piece up front and try to rush their build.

They arey have 24.250M committed to Hughes, Hischier, and Hamilton long term. Bratt needs an extension now and Severson needs one next season, and in 2-3 years Mercer and hypothetically Luke Hughes will also be coming off ELCs. That's with Blackwood and Vanacek as your goaltending tandem.

Do they really want to commit another 9+M per to Gaudreau? Honestly, if they do I'd be calling Fitz and getting Bratt. He's younger, cheaper, and better defensively.

 

[WangMustGo]

so now we dont want any difference maker if he is making over 9 million??

hahaha

I didnt say that, i said it will hurt our depth. Yes i want Gaudreau, and it will be a net win, but it will hurt our depth over the long haul.

 

[doublechili]

Go to CapFriendly and look at the amount of cap space most teams have (factoring in also how many spots they need to fill for next year), and then look at the list of UFAs and think about how much they might command. For example, Gaudreau will be pushing $10M and Philly has $100k in cap space.

The bad news is there will be competition for trading away a contract (like Bailey's), but the good news is that some teams may be looking to move some players to create cap space. And not just cap dump level players. So that's another way to get someone, possibly at a discounted cost in assets.

 

[Quickdraw2828]

Right now they are projecting to be a top-heavy team with lots of skilled forwards, some of whom are on the slighter side.

Gaudreau feels like a redundancy and a poor use of their cap space.



It feels like they need to focus on building up their defense and simply supplement the forward group organically, not add a major piece up front and try to rush their build.

Toronto did it with Pajamas. Worked out well for their playoff hopes.

 

[GOLFWANG]

So if we move Pulock for a fwd who the hell is replacing him?

 

[Throttle]

Pagnotta has whiffed on everything about the Isles so far, so, he just name dropped the Isles with Johnny G. Too funny. Need those clicks!!!

 

[Uncle Lou]

Messing around with armchair GM I got

Burkovsky-Barzal-wally
Lee-Nelson-palmieri
D.Strome-pageau-Parise
4th line
Johnston

Pelech-Pulock
Romanov-Dobson
Dunn-Mayfield

Sorokin
Varly


Trade

Bailey and Wilde (Lou might be done with him) to hawks for a 3rd

Beau, bellows 2023 2nd for Dunn. How did I do

Burkovsky 5x5
Strome 4x 3.8 but could fit at 4.2 if needed.

 

[seafoam]

If Gaudreau signs with PHI, I would be calling up Fletcher to see what the cost would be to acquire Sanheim…

Pelech-Dobson
Sanheim-Pulock
Romanov-Mayfield

Lets be honest, there’s a slim-to-none chance that NYI signs Gaudreau, but they may be able to take advantage of the fallout from another team signing him.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

If Gaudreau signs with PHI, I would be calling up Fletcher to see what the cost would be to acquire Sanheim…

Pelech-Dobson
Sanheim-Pulock
Romanov-Mayfield

Lets be honest, there’s a slim-to-none chance that NYI signs Gaudreau, but they may be able to take advantage of the fallout from another team signing him.

1-0 games every night then?

 

[seafoam]

1-0 games every night then?

I never implied NYI wouldn’t make another move up front.

 

[JJ18Sniper]

If Gaudreau signs with PHI, I would be calling up Fletcher to see what the cost would be to acquire Sanheim…

Pelech-Dobson
Sanheim-Pulock
Romanov-Mayfield

Lets be honest, there’s a slim-to-none chance that NYI signs Gaudreau, but they may be able to take advantage of the fallout from another team signing him.

Sanheim would be a nice get, I'd also consider Provorov with some retention if the scouts think he can rebound.

 

[YoureMyBoyLou]

If Gaudreau signs with PHI, I would be calling up Fletcher to see what the cost would be to acquire Sanheim…

Pelech-Dobson
Sanheim-Pulock
Romanov-Mayfield

Lets be honest, there’s a slim-to-none chance that NYI signs Gaudreau, but they may be able to take advantage of the fallout from another team signing him.

The problem is that it's not very often a team trades a player within their own division. Especially if they are both aiming to make the playoffs, which Philly would be after signing Gaudreau.

 

[seafoam]

The problem is that it's not very often a team trades a player within their own division. Especially if they are both aiming to make the playoffs, which Philly would be after signing Gaudreau.

Columbus and Philly traded Atkinson for Voracek last season and Carolina just traded DeAngelo to Philly as well.

Doesn't seem like a concern for them, and if they sign Gaudreau their backs will be so far up against the wall I'd say anything is possible.

 

[SI90]

I know Lou doesn’t want to trade Varly and I understand why. The goalie market right now is shrinking with less and less legit starting goalies. I’d say Varley is actually the best of them all. If we could find a good back up and would move Varly that would help us cap why is a lot. He only has a year left on this deal anyway.

 

[blinkman360]

Yes to JT MIller
Yes to Patrick Kane
Yes to Tarasenko
No to Gaudreau



(All 3 "yeses" must come with a contract extension...And yes I understand it costs no assets to acquire Gaudreau)

I'd honestly roll the dice on Kane even as a rental. If CHI is willing to eat half his salary AND take back Bailey, to the point where it's essentially an even cap swap, I'd pay a premium to make it happen.

 

[blinkman360]

I know Louie doesn’t want to trade Varly and I understand why. The gold market right now is shrinking with less and less legit starting goalies. I’d say Varley is actually the best of them all. If we could find a good back up and would move Varly that would help us cap why is a lot. He only has a year left on this deal anyway.

My hope was that Lou was trying to boost Varly's value by saying he's not going to part with him, but that's probably wishful thinking. All I know is, having two #1G is all well and good, but when you are straddling the cap ceiling and have a massive need on the 1st line, as well as an offensive D(according to our GM), I don't see how you can't not AT LEAST listen to offers on Varly. Like you said, the market is in our favor. Our system is trash and we need the space, seems like a win/win. Strengthen our system while bumping $5M off the books.

 

[Tahoeblue]

New crop of potential UFA's- Kubalik, D. Strome, and now E. Kane. Not advocating for any just real interesting. I love that this team can boast a quality goalie tandem- but Varly at 5m as the potential backup and the supply and demand market right now for goalies is crazy.
Could Lou take advantage of a desperate GM???? Dubas