you do realize that under the normal format they would have gotten in and Montreal wouldn’t have right? I bet the Rangers wish they got to play those north teams too, they sucked.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXII
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you do realize that under the normal format they would have gotten in and Montreal wouldn’t have right? I bet the Rangers wish they got to play those north teams too, they sucked.
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talent was not the issue. We have all the talent we need. Coaching and roster makeup were 2 of the biggest issues. Covid didn't help but all teams dealt with it to some extent
Thats not actually true, if you go back and look the rangers just fall outside.
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Pitt
Wsh
Car
Tor
Bos
Fla
Tb
All had higher point totals than us.
We were the 15th highest point total, but the east only gets 8 seeds.
I think you can expect the Rangers young talent to improve which will give them a boost in the standings
The way people talk, the Rangers roster players last season can't possibly be better this year despite the whole mantra of last year being "this is a super young team with a lot of players that have a lot of development to go"
IMO coaching and how the team comes together overall is going to decide whether they are a playoff team or not. They have the talent, it needs to be utilized correctly
The way people talk, the Rangers roster players last season can't possibly be better this year despite the whole mantra of last year being "this is a super young team with a lot of players that have a lot of development to go"
IMO coaching and how the team comes together overall is going to decide whether they are a playoff team or not. They have the talent, it needs to be utilized correctly
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Danault is an overpriced 3rd liner.
Fitzy
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Which makes me feel ten times better about what we paid for another overpaid third liner in Goodrow
Yeah and I could easily make a case that every team that made the playoffs last year will be worse next year with the exception of Florida.
On the center discussion. I stumbled across Tyler Seguin's stats line that I found to be so illustrative of what "works" in the NHL right now, and especially in the POs. When they went to the finals, his statline were:
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I am far from Seguin's biggest fan, but I mean he is a talented player, he can certainly put the puck in the back of the net and he plays in a great environment with many talented forwards. Still he only got two goals -- on a team that was successful and went to the finals.
My point is just, its not these guys that will drive a team to a cup. Ziba, definitely not Eichel. Teams just does such a good job at taking away their ice when you get deep in the POs. Who has success in the POs? There is always some noise with special teams having a big impact and what not, but from my POV its quite obvious that its the slippery centers who are awsome at carrying the puck up ice and taking it to the net and the wingers that are extremely good at finding open ice and that just can attack against a collected D. Kucherov, Pat Kane -- and most certainly Panarin.
Honestly, I am a big fan of Ziba. But I wouldn't handcuff the team for 8 years with a monster contract on him. Doing it with Eichel is organizational suicide. Get the strong match-up centers. Centers that will push back the opponents. Has the speed to skate them into the ground.
| Playoffs | 26 | 2 | 11 | 13 |
I am far from Seguin's biggest fan, but I mean he is a talented player, he can certainly put the puck in the back of the net and he plays in a great environment with many talented forwards. Still he only got two goals -- on a team that was successful and went to the finals.
My point is just, its not these guys that will drive a team to a cup. Ziba, definitely not Eichel. Teams just does such a good job at taking away their ice when you get deep in the POs. Who has success in the POs? There is always some noise with special teams having a big impact and what not, but from my POV its quite obvious that its the slippery centers who are awsome at carrying the puck up ice and taking it to the net and the wingers that are extremely good at finding open ice and that just can attack against a collected D. Kucherov, Pat Kane -- and most certainly Panarin.
Honestly, I am a big fan of Ziba. But I wouldn't handcuff the team for 8 years with a monster contract on him. Doing it with Eichel is organizational suicide. Get the strong match-up centers. Centers that will push back the opponents. Has the speed to skate them into the ground.
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point stands tho
we effectively stopped trying with 4 games to go and would've pipped MTL or ended up around 4 pts off the last spot in the other two divisions
massive difference with Metro
Zibanejad won't handcuff the Rangers. Kreider's contract handcuffs the Rangers. The Rangers have Panarin and Lafrenière on the left side. Unless one of them can make the adjustment to the right side, the Rangers have a $6.5M third line left winger.
Kreider's contract is structured in a way for the Rangers to move him as soon as next summer. Kreider will have received $24.5M of the $45.5M by next July 2022. He has a $5M signing bonus due for 22-23. His salary is just $1M in 22-23. The Rangers pay the $5M signing bonus. The acquiring team pays the $21M. $1M salary followed by 4 years of $5M per. $3M is in signing bonus money. That's $4.2M per over 5 years. The Blues gave Saad $4.5M per for 5 years.
Kreider has a full NMC until 23-24. He has a say if he goes and where he goes.
The Rangers need Zibanejad. He has on pace for a 35 goal season if it was a full 82 game season. The Rangers can't discard that player and replace him with a better player. Where are they finding that better player? Mika knows NY and he has been a very good player here.
I'll use this line to keep me optimistic for a bit. Thanks!
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This is going to be a radical take.
Chris Kreider will be a line driver again, with Gallant. Mika will look like 2018-2019 Mika.
Chris Kreider will be a line driver again, with Gallant. Mika will look like 2018-2019 Mika.
Seguin also had like hip, groin and, knee surgery after that cup run, which is why his production was so low. I was living in Dallas, it was beyond well documented that he could barely play, cortisone shots every game, etc. He was winning faceoffs and being a leader and Dallas didn’t have anyone better to call up. Seguin’s become a pretty complete player and is not a one dimensional offensive threat anymore.
Sure, guys like Kucherov and Kane get it done in the playoffs, but part of it is just that they’re special players who have that extra gear. Deep in the playoffs, it’s honestly the random step up games from different depth guys that team’s always seem to get. A hat trick from an unknown like Kiviranta. A mini breakout from Gurianov. Depth role players that contribute in the playoffs are huge.
I was wrong, he only had surgery on the hip though. Torn labrum.
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Seguin had like 47 significant injuries that run from his knees to his wrists
I think Zibanejad could be one of those pace pushers and guys who does well in the playoffs but he (and the rest of the team) has to realize you can't go far solely relying on transition attacks and have little or no forecheck and cycle game.
He has great anticipation, great speed, is big, can push other teams back, has all the tools to do it, but he and everyone else has to be able to forecheck, punish other teams, and attack the net
He has great anticipation, great speed, is big, can push other teams back, has all the tools to do it, but he and everyone else has to be able to forecheck, punish other teams, and attack the net
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back afta dis. . .
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I think the point was, you can make it without 1C production. Or, atleast, that's how I took it.
If good to great players are playing good to great, does it matter if they are left, center or right? If 2 players on the line are great top line players with the other a nice compliment piece, does it matter the order/arrangement?
So, if a center can skate, play a strong 2way game, forecheck/be relentless and not be a black hole on offense, it will be a nice compliment for our wingers.
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Kreider signed a pre-pandemic contract with the front loaded signing bonuses. Most of the money will be paid in the first two seasons and the signing bonus due for the 22-23 season. I like Kreider very much but the Rangers are paying Panarin a fortune and they need Lafreniere to play top six minutes. The Rangers should not move him from his natural side. They need for Lafreniere to become a legit first line player.
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Has anyone else looked at Nemeth's contract in terms of how the dollars are paid? Seems odd.
$2.5m cap hit
Year 1 - $1.5m
Year 2 - $2.5m
Year 3 - $3.5m
So it's backloaded and for a team like the Rangers, that seems like bad business, no?
$2.5m cap hit
Year 1 - $1.5m
Year 2 - $2.5m
Year 3 - $3.5m
So it's backloaded and for a team like the Rangers, that seems like bad business, no?
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