Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXII

[Lindberg Cheese]

Big Kravtsov is the most pivotal piece of our rebuild

Have you emotionally moved on from Buch and can start exploring a new relationship with Krav?

 

[duhmetreE]

Relentless speed down the middle, above all.

This is why Larkin is probably the target. He has a lot of Point similarities. What would Larkin look like with a Kucherov/Panarin?

 

[duhmetreE]

Has anyone else looked at Nemeth's contract in terms of how the dollars are paid? Seems odd.

$2.5m cap hit
Year 1 - $1.5m
Year 2 - $2.5m
Year 3 - $3.5m

So it's backloaded and for a team like the Rangers, that seems like bad business, no?

Escrow is at an absurd amount this season. It goes down significantly year over year.

It started at 20% escrow and then eventually gets down to 6% by year 5 of the CBA, if I remember right.

 

[Vitto79]

Has anyone else looked at Nemeth's contract in terms of how the dollars are paid? Seems odd.

$2.5m cap hit
Year 1 - $1.5m
Year 2 - $2.5m
Year 3 - $3.5m

So it's backloaded and for a team like the Rangers, that seems like bad business, no?

Yea I don’t get it when year 3 he’s likely a 7th D

 

[SA16]

Has anyone else looked at Nemeth's contract in terms of how the dollars are paid? Seems odd.

$2.5m cap hit
Year 1 - $1.5m
Year 2 - $2.5m
Year 3 - $3.5m

So it's backloaded and for a team like the Rangers, that seems like bad business, no?

Well Nemeth does have an agent who may have wanted it that way if he thinks escrow will go down in later years or that if Nemeth gets traded in later years he will pay a lower tax rate on years with higher salary.

 

[Ola]

Has anyone else looked at Nemeth's contract in terms of how the dollars are paid? Seems odd.

$2.5m cap hit
Year 1 - $1.5m
Year 2 - $2.5m
Year 3 - $3.5m

So it's backloaded and for a team like the Rangers, that seems like bad business, no?

I like this contract because its designed to be "buy-out-able". Same with Goodrow.

If we buy-out Nemeth after one year the caphit is 1, 0, 1 and 1. If Nemeth isn't a top 6 for us, we have a LD we rather play over him, the impact is small. If we buy him out after 2 years its just 1k and then 1.1m

If Goodrow goes Belesky on us and after two years he just is of no value to us, the buy-out is good too:

Its of course not optimal to have to buyout all these contracts and waste cap space, the millions add up. But these contracts can never really become a bigger negative factor.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Have you emotionally moved on from Buch and can start exploring a new relationship with Krav?

The widow’s pension kicking in has helped

 

[Reway10]

Relentless speed down the middle, above all.

This is why Larkin is probably the target. He has a lot of Point similarities. What would Larkin look like with a Kucherov/Panarin?

Point has much better hands than Larkin though

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Has anyone else looked at Nemeth's contract in terms of how the dollars are paid? Seems odd.

$2.5m cap hit
Year 1 - $1.5m
Year 2 - $2.5m
Year 3 - $3.5m

So it's backloaded and for a team like the Rangers, that seems like bad business, no?

Backloaded contracts make them buyout friendly, for what it's worth. Frontloading makes it trade friendly.

But I doubt Nemeth will be bought out

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Have you emotionally moved on from Buch and can start exploring a new relationship with Krav?

He's been having wet dreams about Krava since 2018. I think he'll be fine haha.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

This is going to be a radical take.

Chris Kreider will be a line driver again, with Gallant. Mika will look like 2018-2019 Mika.

I was looking through some numbers yesterday and saw that Kreider had ONE point at ES over his last 20 games.

Thats insane. Thats next to impossible to do with the minutes he got and who he played with. He should have had more by accident even if he played worse than he actually did. He legitimately sucked, but there has to be a hint of bad luck in there as well. I wouldn't expect a drastic turnaround, but I would expect him to be better next year. Good Kreider showed up in spurts last year, so its not like that player is completely gone.

Also, it dawned on me that he was demoted for like 3 of those games LOL.

 

[DialUp]

He's been having wet dreams about Krava since 2018. I think he'll be fine haha.

I initially read that as "since 2008" and I got really nervous.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Kravtsov is flying to NYC right now

 

[duhmetreE]

I was looking through some numbers yesterday and saw that Kreider had ONE point at ES over his last 20 games.

Thats insane. Thats next to impossible to do with the minutes he got and who he played with. He should have had more by accident even if he played worse than he actually did. He legitimately sucked, but there has to be a hint of bad luck in there as well. I wouldn't expect a drastic turnaround, but I would expect him to be better next year. Good Kreider showed up in spurts last year, so its not like that player is completely gone.

Also, it dawned on me that he was demoted for like 3 of those games LOL.

We're all guilty of recency bias. With Kreider, somehow a lot of us forgot how he's capable of 'tilting the ice.' Even when Kreider wasn't producing, he was responsible for a lot of the success for his line. Whether it's the space created, forecheck/board play and/or a screen in front. He doesn't end up on the stat sheet but he played a major role in the teams success.

Also, some philosophy change came post covid IMO. The team was never the same.

 

[duhmetreE]

Kravtsov is flying to NYC right now

stalking level 100

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Kravtsov is flying to NYC right now

Man are his arms going to be tired!

 

[NYSPORTS]

stalking level 100

ask for a pair of socks authographed -

level rises to 1000

 

[Fitzy]

Man are his arms going to be tired!

Al oldy but a goody

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Obligatory song post because the Rangers are mentioned

 

[duhmetreE]

Al oldy but a goody

Speaking of old, where's @Ghost of jas?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I like this contract because its designed to be "buy-out-able". Same with Goodrow.

If we buy-out Nemeth after one year the caphit is 1, 0, 1 and 1. If Nemeth isn't a top 6 for us, we have a LD we rather play over him, the impact is small. If we buy him out after 2 years its just 1k and then 1.1m

If Goodrow goes Belesky on us and after two years he just is of no value to us, the buy-out is good too:
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Its of course not optimal to have to buyout all these contracts and waste cap space, the millions add up. But these contracts can never really become a bigger negative factor.

That's really not that bad at all.

 

[pld459666]

There are worse things than an overpaid third liner that can put up 40+ points and is a responsible player and a solid role model.

 

[SA16]

There are worse things than an overpaid third liner that can put up 40+ points and is a responsible player and a solid role model.

I would tend to doubt that Kreider can score 40+ points if he's in a third line role.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

I would tend to doubt that Kreider can score 40+ points if he's in a third line role.

He probably could if he showed up for every game.

 

[Barnaby]

He probably could if he showed up for every game.

At this point we know that’s not happening...