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Roster Building Thread: Part VII (2023-24)

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haohmaru said:
Yeah - but there is a grain of salt. The guy isn't dumb and sees what's in front of him on the left side (Panarin, Kreider, Lafreniere). It behooves him to be flexible and accommodating and, perhaps, stretching the truth a bit.

I mean, I hope he or Lafreniere can play RW. It would solve issues.
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He played RW regularly both in pro hockey and juniors before he was even drafted though. So it's not just an answer based on the depth chart. He actually played RW, unlike Lafrenière.
 
UnSandvich said:
Tbh I think we do have the perfect complement to Panarin already in the org. He’s a quick skater, very good hockey IQ, and relentless on both the forecheck and backcheck. The problem is Panarin is getting older and the kid just ain’t ready yet.
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I honestly really love the idea of Kakko as Panarin's RW. Kakko has also probably been the most productive playing RW on Panarin's line. He's great at winning loose puck battles and a hound on the boards. He can break up plays and can also play defense. Great IQ and can hopefully finish chances at a better rate than most RWs ppl try to put with Panarin. Panarin/Mika/Kakko is a legit top line. It also makes it easier for the 2nd and 3rd lines to play a tougher forecheck/cycle game because I think Panarin/Mika aren't good at those things.
 
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SA16 said:
So now, not only does Othmann have to acclimate to playing at a heavier weight he has to simultaneously learn to play a new position?
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New position. He played RW this past season in juniors. He said it himself during the video I posted in the prospect tournament thread
 
bigdog16 said:
He puts up points at a significantly higher rate than Brod. Can't say I am too familiar with Pitlick but Brodzinski never did anything for me other than get in the way tbh
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Brodz's shooting percentage was also abysmally low. I don't expect that to continue if he continues to get more reps.
 
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The LW to RW hurdle is overblown, in my opinion. It should not negatively affect Laf/Othmann’s production, and it could improve it if it means they are playing with better linemates. The biggest hurdle in changing wings is in the defense zone picking up the puck off the boards. But with enough practice reps they can become perfectly sufficient at that.
 
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SA16 said:
So now, not only does Othmann have to acclimate to playing at a heavier weight he has to simultaneously learn to play a new position?
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Even worse, I heard he's changed skates, his stick and changed his helmet from Bauer to CCM! Also the difference in jersey color is really something he'll have to overcome to be effective.

Luckily I heard he, after some thought, didn't change his toothbrush from Oral-B to Sonicare. We dodged a bullet there!!!
 
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tomobson said:
I honestly really love the idea of Kakko as Panarin's RW. Kakko has also probably been the most productive playing RW on Panarin's line. He's great at winning loose puck battles and a hound on the boards. He can break up plays and can also play defense. Great IQ and can hopefully finish chances at a better rate than most RWs ppl try to put with Panarin. Panarin/Mika/Kakko is a legit top line. It also makes it easier for the 2nd and 3rd lines to play a tougher forecheck/cycle game because I think Panarin/Mika aren't good at those things.
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(i wasn't talking about Kakko, but none of your points are wrong lol)
 
Machinehead said:
I like Othmann but I feel he's being mischaracterized as a dominant physical presence.

He's 190 pounds and I don't see him having the legs to get in on the forecheck.

His offensive numbers impressed me more than anything else and I think he profiles more as a rat who can score.
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It's not that he's dominant physically. But rather that he's a guy who will toss his body into anything without fear, creating puck separation more than big time hits. At the end of the day, that's what you need from physical/gritty players. You need puck separation. Not 3 big hits a game.
He can throw some big hits and some of those come with players in vulnerable positions, but he's mainly a guy who just tries to hit, regardless of how physical the hit is.
 
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I Eat Crow said:
That quote makes it sound like Pitlick is an opening night starter. Ew. He stinks. There's not a thing he does better than Johnny Brodzinski. Johnny B is a much better skater at that.
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I think that was like 95% a given when they signed him.
 
duhmetreE said:
Some would have you believe that it's easier for a man to become a woman than a LW to become a RW.

2023.

What a time to be alive.
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We're getting smarter, at least in theory lol. Butterfly taking over goaltending, the 1-3-1 power play.

There's a reason why over the past 15 years you see fewer and fewer defenseman deployed on their offhand side.

You have to be special enough in today's game that even minor adjustments seem like mountains to climb.
 
I think in some instances like Kreider, because of how he plays and his skillset, makes it a difficult transition to switch wings. But it shouldn’t be that big of a deal for a skill player like Lafreniere.
 
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Fitzy said:
We're getting smarter, at least in theory lol. Butterfly taking over goaltending, the 1-3-1 power play.

There's a reason why over the past 15 years you see fewer and fewer defenseman deployed on their offhand side.

You have to be special enough in today's game that even minor adjustments seem like mountains to climb.
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There are negatives on offsides but they are exacerbated for defenseman imo.

There's also positives to off-side wingers on offense, especially ones who can shoot. Defender don't really get that benefit.
 
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duhmetreE said:
There are negatives on offsides but they are exacerbated for defenseman imo.

There's also positives to off-side wingers on offense, especially ones who can shoot. Defender don't really get that benefit.
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Oh for sure I agree it's not equivalent.

I just think as the game gets more 'efficient' there becomes less room for players with unconventional playing styles.
 
Fitzy said:
Oh for sure I agree it's not equivalent.

I just think as the game gets more 'efficient' there becomes less room for players with unconventional playing styles.
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I think the biggest factor is that hockey today is much more dynamic than it was 15-20 years ago and beyond. Wingers in open play move laterally all the time in today's hockey.
 
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