dumbdick
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- May 31, 2008
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Pinto. 100 times out of 100.It's good we don't have to pick between them, but who do you guys rate higher between him and Pinto?
I think I gotta go with Greig.
Pinto. 100 times out of 100.It's good we don't have to pick between them, but who do you guys rate higher between him and Pinto?
I think I gotta go with Greig.
It's good we don't have to pick between them, but who do you guys rate higher between him and Pinto?
I think I gotta go with Greig.
I like both, but I think Pinto's ceiling is higher. Pinto's skillset is very unique in the league. I think he might be a top 2C or even a 1C, and I have him above Norris and maybe Bath long term.why though
What's the unique skillset?I like both, but I think Pinto's ceiling is higher. Pinto's skillset is very unique in the league.
Whoa! No chance he is above Norris.I think he might be a top 2C or even a 1C, and I have him above Norris and maybe Bath long term.
Well Pinto is 6’3 and Norris is 6’2 so I hate to burst your bubble but Pinto will always be above NorrisWhat's the unique skillset?
Whoa! No chance he is above Norris.
Selke-level 2-way forward that is good at every aspect of the game.What's the unique skillset?
Whoa! No chance he is above Norris.
Badum bum!Well Pinto is 6’3 and Norris is 6’2 so I hate to burst your bubble but Pinto will always be above Norris
Pinto? Selke level 2 way forward? Not yet.Selke-level 2-way forward that is good at every aspect of the game.
How is Norris not a play driver? He can hang on to the puck, skates well and has at least as good vision as Pinto who hasn't show much in the way of play making at the NHL level yet.As for Norris, I said long-term. Norris scores and plays good positionally, but he's not a play driver and doean'y have the same vision.
Disagree vehemently. It would be amazing if Pinto could reach Norris's level of play but I just don't see it. He will be an important part of the team and a big bodied 3C with size is very valuable but Norris is better in just about every aspect.I think our tiers in a few years are basically:
stu
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Bath/pinto
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Greig/Norris
But Greig is playing great and he obviously has some good skill and great jam.
Seems a bit early.It's good we don't have to pick between them, but who do you guys rate higher between him and Pinto?
I think I gotta go with Greig.
Well, heres hoping we're still having these debates in a few years.Badum bum!
Pinto? Selke level 2 way forward? Not yet.
Norris is better defensively, better in the dot and scores more while being a better skater as well.
How is Norris not a play driver? He can hang on to the puck, skates well and has at least as good vision as Pinto who hasn't show much in the way of play making at the NHL level yet.
Disagree vehemently. It would be amazing if Pinto could reach Norris's level of play but I just don't see it. He will be an important part of the team and a big bodied 3C with size is very valuable but Norris is better in just about every aspect.
Yes, Pinto will continue to develop and I am not trying to slam him - I love his game and upside - but can't imagine he will jump over Norris.
In fact, as stated numerous times, I think Greig will overtake Pinto in points and in certain intangibles. He will bring guys into the fight a la Brady. Pinto is the even keel, reserved type, at least so far.
Pinto has a great shot but his playmaking is poor for a 3rd line centre let alone a 2nd liner. Not sure how you would have him above Norris who seems to be an almost elite goal scorer.I like both, but I think Pinto's ceiling is higher. Pinto's skillset is very unique in the league. I think he might be a top 2C or even a 1C, and I have him above Norris and maybe Bath long term.
I'd also say Greig. I feel like he has more puck skill than Pinto.It's good we don't have to pick between them, but who do you guys rate higher between him and Pinto?
I think I gotta go with Greig.
I find Norris to be overrated to be honest. Really good defensive game, but he seems to need a great playmaker like Bath to feed him to make him effective. And he goes on cold streaks sometimes where you just dont notice him for a few games. He's had a few games where he's blown me away, for sure, but also a lot where i question his ability to live up to his salary.Pinto has a great shot but his playmaking is poor for a 3rd line centre let alone a 2nd liner. Not sure how you would have him above Norris who seems to be an almost elite goal scorer.
It will be a good problem for us to have.Well, heres hoping we're still having these debates in a few years.
There was a thread a while back on Pinto vs. Norris vs. Batherson as to who would have the best career. People would bounce back and forth, as they were each killing it for stretches. So awesome that Greig might also force his way into that conversation. He looks pretty awesome so far this year and is making some high skill plays. I'm not as high on Norris, since he has the occasional stretch of meh games now and then.
And, of course, we've still got stu and brady on top of those guys. Sun is shining in sens land.
As for Pinto, I watched a lot of him at UND, and I'm a huge fan. He used to put that team on his back, and if it wasn't for caulfield's unreal season, he would have taken the Hobey Baker. I'm expecting some big time jumps in his game going forward. Such a smart player.
I find Norris to be overrated to be honest. Really good defensive game, but he seems to need a great playmaker like Bath to feed him to make him effective. And he goes on cold streaks sometimes where you just dont notice him for a few games. He's had a few games where he's blown me away, for sure, but also a lot where i question his ability to live up to his salary.
Pinto's playmaking is fine, i think. Better than Norris', in my opinion. And certainly not poor for a 3C.
They're all really great players at the end of the day. I just put Pinto higher than Norris.
Reminds me of when we used to run Patty Eaves on our 4th line.It will be a good problem for us to have.
Our C depth seems to align well with how playoff teams are built.
He is too talented but if we have Pinto on the 4th line, we would be absolutely dominant down the middle.
It's more a comment on his style of play than anything. He's primarily a sniper with a good defensive game. He gets his points and is solid defensively, but rarely is he controlling the play where you're hearing his name called every five seconds. So if he isn't scoring he can be pretty quiet on the offensive side some nights.Perhaps there is a little recency bias involved here?
The last time Norris put together a stretch of over 10-15 consecutive games was in 2021-22 and he was our #1C facing top opposition putting up 35 goals 55 pts in just 66 games.
He was pretty damn consistent that season.. if Pinto reaches that level we should be elated
I don’t know about all that. Nothing against ridlyGreig is a better fit to play with skilled players. Better puckhandler and playmaker than Pinto.
Which is why he should be shifted to LW when (hopefully not if) Pinto is signed.
He'd be the perfect guy to play alongside Norris and Batherson on the 2nd line.
It wouldn't surprise me that Pinto's agent is fanning that fire.So for the guys here arguing that Pinto is equal to or possibly greater than Norris
What if Pinto thinks that?
How does that impact his signing here?
Norris outproduced Pinto in their same-age season by a pretty significant margin and was the first C we locked up. Had a lot more leverage. If Pinto thinks he will steal Norris' job, he should take a year or two deal and cash in afterwards.So for the guys here arguing that Pinto is equal to or possibly greater than Norris
What if Pinto thinks that?
How does that impact his signing here?
He has to prove it thoughSo for the guys here arguing that Pinto is equal to or possibly greater than Norris
What if Pinto thinks that?
How does that impact his signing here?