Post-Game Talk: Rangers @ Canes

[LOFIN]

Yep, which is infuriating because it's not so much the foot speed that's the problem, it's the way they play. You can play fast without having a team full of Hagelins.

Yup. It's a system issue. I mean not every player Colorado has is a rocket on the ice, yet they probably play the fastest and most dynamic transition game in the league. It's about the system, how the D and forwards work together. Now it does mean you need to have d-men that are good with the puck, but that's what our pipeline looks like doesn't it? Lundkvist, Jones, Schneider.

The only time this Rangers team moves fast up the ice is when they have an odd-man rush. When try to start a controlled breakout, it's probably the slowest in the league. Should not be the case considering what top-end talent we have on offense.

 

[Chimpradamus]

Who didn't see this happening? Tony D with a goal and two assists, and Jesper Fast with a goal. Figures...

I knew this would happen.

Speaking of Fast, I still have no clue why he was dumped so Carolina could sign him for @2m. I would've loved to have Fast in this lineup @2m. A great bottom 6 player and on top of that, he was really good playing with Panarin and Strome.

 

[tlk]

Blowouts happen and can be “burn the tape” games, but not this one. This was a measuring stick game and they came up way short.

which is especially daunting in a totally predictable way.

 

[NYRangers0723]

The negative whiners sit and wait and wait for a bad game so they can wallow in their misery. People have said this is a good team. People have said they could knock off teams in playoffs.There is no sizable group of fans here predicting a cup this year.That’s a bullshit claim to make a few feel better about senseless ranting.

. Agreed it’s ridiculous

 

[chosen]

Once I saw Gio was in the net I knew this was a loss and ADA was gonna have his way with him, which is exactly what happened. It's done now, it's over move on.

Gio had zero to do with losing the game, but whatever.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

which is especially daunting in a totally predictable way.

They couldn’t cover up their weaknesses this time. The lack of foot speed, the lack of depth in the Top 6, the inexperience of the younger players. The Rangers made it somewhat interesting in the third, but they got their clocks cleaned.

 

[chosen]

Yup. It's a system issue. I mean not every player Colorado has is a rocket on the ice, yet they probably play the fastest and most dynamic transition game in the league. It's about the system, how the D and forwards work together. Now it does mean you need to have d-men that are good with the puck, but that's what our pipeline looks like doesn't it? Lundkvist, Jones, Schneider.

The only time this Rangers team moves fast up the ice is when they have an odd-man rush. When try to start a controlled breakout, it's probably the slowest in the league. Should not be the case considering what top-end talent we have on offense.

It's not a system issue.

It's never a system issue.

It's not an effort issue.

It's never an effort issue.

It's a personnel issue.

It's always a personnel issue.

If it were a system issue, you'd be saying it's the coach's fault. That was the excuse with Quinn. Now, it's Gallant? Really?

When a team isn't the Cup winner, it's not a coaching issue.

Before the season, we all hoped the Rangers would get into the playoffs. They're playing better than everyone here thought they would. Now, people are upset that they are not the best team in the NHL That makes zero sense.

On paper, the Rangers are loaded with top-end talent. On the ice, not so much. Laf and Kakko might become top-end talent, although I'm pretty tired of Kakko doing almost nothing while his two linemates are pounding in points.

Too many fans just can't face the fact that another team just might be better than their team and from what I've seen, that Carolina team could very well be the very best in the league. They are loaded and if they have an achilles heel, I don't see it.

 

[Tob]

We need to take drastic action re Lafreniere and Kakko immediately. I don't know what that should be but the status quo isn't working.

I'll make some calls to my shaman and see what I can do.

 

[ThirdEye]

We're probably around where Carolina was in their rebuild two years ago. Kakko and Laf's lack of development has pushed us back a whole year at minimum. It's going to take time

Hot take: I think the Rangers will acquire another top 6 forward at the deadline and send one of Laf/Kakko down. We're going to make the playoffs and neither one of them is even remotely ready for that

 

[ThirdEye]

Also, I like Gallant but not starting Igor was probably his most egregious failure up till this point. Maybe it wouldn't have made a difference in the end, but why handicap yourself like that against a top team? Only thing I can think of is Gallant is trying get them to play better independent of Igor, but even that's stretching it.

 

[Synergy27]

Speaking of Fast, I still have no clue why he was dumped so Carolina could sign him for @2m. I would've loved to have Fast in this lineup @2m. A great bottom 6 player and on top of that, he was really good playing with Panarin and Strome.

This has been discussed as nauseam here. It seemed like he wanted out. He was offered a contract. He didn’t take it.

 

[Mike in Houston]

A couple of things (without looking through the thread)...

1. Did anyone else get the feeling Vally was angling towards the Rangers trading Schneider in the 1st intermission?

2. Did Vally also suggest in the postgame that Lafrenière and Kakko should be sent down to Hartford?

Thanks and I'll hang up and listen.

 

[Kovalev27]

What I say last night?

if georgiev’s expected goals was not 6 and he let in 6 it wouldn’t surprise me. It was actually less than that and he still let up 6




he did exactly what I said he’d do. He folded like a tent under the pressure. He didn’t make a big save all night. Should never have been in that game. I KNOW DeAngelo was in his head and he never gave us a shot to get into that game.

i don’t even blame him. I knew exactly what I was going to get. What alarms me is why gallant didn’t

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

The comments and performance of this board last night made me not chime it because it was probably worse than the Rangers performance, lineup decisions, broadcast, and Valliquette's dumb comments on trading Schneider.

Rangers got curb stomped by a better and faster team. The end.

They'll play better tonight against the Coyotes unless Vejmelka goes into Ken Dryden mode.

Everyone needs to relax sometimes and realize you can't go 82-0.

 

[duhmetreE]

If only we could work as hard as the Hurricanes instead of having mickey mouse practices

 

[NYR Viper]

What I say last night?

if georgiev’s expected goals was not 6 and he let in 6 it wouldn’t surprise me. It was actually less than that and he still let up 6




he did exactly what I said he’d do. He folded like a tent under the pressure. He didn’t make a big save all night. Should never have been in that game. I KNOW DeAngelo was in his head and he never gave us a shot to get into that game.

i don’t even blame him. I knew exactly what I was going to get. What alarms me is why gallant didn’t

I distinctly remember Georgiev making more than a few very good saves and thinking that none of the goals were soft. Last night was about 0% on Georgiev but I get the need to point the finger and he’s been an easy target.

Look at the chances and compare them. 30 to 20 and yet the Rangers had more low quality chances than the Canes. It was domination in front of him for more than 2/3 of the game.

 

[Boris Zubov]

When we get to the playoffs and Fox is our best player, I want a written apology.

Double spaced. Size 12 font.

And warm up by apologizing to the Backstreet Boys right now, holy f***.

Defending Adam Fox is worthwhile & noble, but nobody on planet earth owes the Backstreet Boys an apology.

 

[Kovalev27]

I distinctly remember Georgiev making more than a few very good saves and thinking that none of the goals were soft. Last night was about 0% on Georgiev but I get the need to point the finger and he’s been an easy target.

Look at the chances and compare them. 30 to 20 and yet the Rangers had more low quality chances than the Canes. It was domination in front of him for more than 2/3 of the game.

his minimum job I mean just to punch in is to make a few saves my friend. Good nhl goalies make saves they shouldn’t. Again he did exactly what was expected. Nothing really. Andersen makes a ridiculous save otherwise it’s 3-2 early.

Not every chance should be a goal.

 

[duhmetreE]

his minimum job I mean just to punch in is to make a few saves my friend. Good nhl goalies make saves they shouldn’t. Again he did exactly what was expected. Nothing really. Andersen makes a ridiculous save otherwise it’s 3-2 early.

Not every chance should be a goal.

This is on Gallant. Can't blame Georgiev for who he is. Not playing your best player for 'reasons' is a loser move. 'Team building' yeah... I'm sure the team feels great right now...

Gallant is too soft on his players. We need discipline and work ethic. Brind'Amour exemplifies that.

Did you think the team would rally around Georgiev? They were defeated already at puck drop

 

[NYR Viper]

his minimum job I mean just to punch in is to make a few saves my friend. Good nhl goalies make saves they shouldn’t. Again he did exactly what was expected. Nothing really. Andersen makes a ridiculous save otherwise it’s 3-2 early.

Not every chance should be a goal.

You posted the stats, Anderson gave up 3 with an expected just over 2. This game was NOT on Georgiev. He made some good saves. The shots in the first period were what, 14-2? I mean c’mon. There have been games where Georgiev didn’t play well. Last night wasn’t that.

 

[duhmetreE]

You posted the stats, Anderson gave up 3 with an expected just over 2. This game was NOT on Georgiev. He made some good saves. The shots in the first period were what, 14-2? I mean c’mon. There have been games where Georgiev didn’t play well. Last night wasn’t that.

"Every battle is won before it is ever fought" We conceded the game with Georgiev starting. Hunt back in the top6 as well.

Panarin has been dog water with Gallant. This is a major problem

 

[Rempe73]

f*** me. I’m just tired of our young forwards not even being close to the level of other teams’. I’m sick of it. Credit to the Hurricanes. Fantastic rebuild. Fantastic player development.

 

[duhmetreE]

f*** me. I’m just tired of our young forwards not even being close to the level of other teams’. I’m sick of it. Credit to the Hurricanes. Fantastic rebuild. Fantastic player development.

Kakko and Laffy would be world beaters under him.

 

[gump116]

Not giving Fast the third year was so f***ing stupid, like has was about to turn 35.

Seeing Carolinas roster construction, they just seem to have a much smarter front office. Forget DeAngelo because there are a bunch of issues with him and glad we waived him.

Just looking at Fast and Smith compared to Goodrow and Nemeth respectively. Similar roles, much cheaper and shorter deals, and proven fits within the team. Would have like 3-4 million more in cap space, which is essentially the difference between like Buchnevich and a guy like Blais

 

[Rempe73]

Kakko and Laffy would be world beater under him.

RBA is the GOAT