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Kravtsov, Nieves and McKegg are all Hartford bound IMO. They’ll run with 22, Smith will be the extra F &D.
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I don't think McKegg would have signed here without a guarantee he would start in the NHL. He had his choice of team to sign with this summer and would have went to someone else if that was the case. He's also been pretty good so far in the preseason games he's played.
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I think McKegg has shown enough to be the 13thF. I think he is too good for the AHL. I am a massive Kravtsov stan but i think that it would be best for im to play in Hartford until like Christmas.
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Not gonna lie. I'd be intrigued by a crash line of Nieves, McKegg, and Haley. A third line of Andersson, Fast, and Lemieux. That would leave Howden, Strome, and Namestnikov on the outside looking in. But Quinn is gonna status quo, I bet.
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Really good goal scorer who had to overcome a lot of crap like even getting a contract because of racism. One of the unsung heroes of the 80s. Even got to play for the Rangers during a stretch run and a playoff series.
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FKA Roo Returns...Still A Contrarian Apparently
That line would rival the GAG line, except they'd be the GAS line: Goal A Season.
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FKA Roo Returns...Still A Contrarian Apparently
Some observations from your friendly neighborhood former Batman:
-The Rangers play only 3x in the first 15 days of the season so Holy Alan Iverson Batman, they'll be getting their practice on. A lot. And become familiar with each other.
-Don't be surprised if pretty much anyone and everyone not named Kaako who is waiver exempt is sent to Hartford even just on paper during this time to save as much cap space as possible. In the case of the goalies most so to keep them sharp.
-Smith may stay up during this time and be sent down after because him sitting isn't a big deal.
-I still think McKeg is the 13th forward
-This team is going to have to get dirtier and I think this will be addressed starting with cuts today/tomorrow. They're not going to win games with just a functional power play.
-The Rangers play only 3x in the first 15 days of the season so Holy Alan Iverson Batman, they'll be getting their practice on. A lot. And become familiar with each other.
-Don't be surprised if pretty much anyone and everyone not named Kaako who is waiver exempt is sent to Hartford even just on paper during this time to save as much cap space as possible. In the case of the goalies most so to keep them sharp.
-Smith may stay up during this time and be sent down after because him sitting isn't a big deal.
-I still think McKeg is the 13th forward
-This team is going to have to get dirtier and I think this will be addressed starting with cuts today/tomorrow. They're not going to win games with just a functional power play.
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yOu aRe WAy oFF-BaSe and I will not tolerate your insolence!
if you are signing for an amount that can be completely buried in the AHL, you aren't being guaranteed of anything. he's never played more than 1/2 a season, this isn't an established vet. if he makes the roster it will be cause his play earned it, not cause it was promised. the idea that teams guaranteed spots is nonsense imo. if you are good enough to deserve a guarantee then you should have no problem making the team anyway
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Agree. As either the 4C or 13th forward in platoon with Nieves.
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Nieves/McKegg are 13th forward or first Hartford call up, bottom 6 is all pretty much interchangeable.
Kravtsov in Hartford to start. Just too crowded right now. He would benefit from playing 20 minutes a night for a few weeks, IMO.
IMO the coaching staff hasn't done a great job of icing the right line-ups the first 3 games. The fringe players who are not going to make the team got ice time for what?
What logical, hockey reason can you point to that Geerstan gets a game? These are valuable experiences for prospects to have- maximize their exposure.
These are games where you can view who can fill the right roles- maximize that exposure.
I like was McKegg has brought so far- but he was on the top unit PP last game.
Is McKegg going to get PP time during the regular season? No. What was he doing there last game?
The PK can't defend the 1-3-1. Are you guys watching tape of teams who do a good job of that and coaching your players accordingly? No. You lose a face-off on the PK are you are giving up chances.
All of that is on the coaching.
We are all expecting players to take a step forward this season, but the same expectation is placed on the coaches as well.
Rangers management made a mistake bringing back Ruff imo, and Olver. They don't strike me as the sharpest tools in the shed. I like the values that Quinn brings to the table, but you need more. You need tactics. You need foresight.
I'm not expecting this team to make the playoffs, but I am expecting progressive standards.
So far... the only thing I'm liking is how some of the cuts were handled.
What logical, hockey reason can you point to that Geerstan gets a game? These are valuable experiences for prospects to have- maximize their exposure.
These are games where you can view who can fill the right roles- maximize that exposure.
I like was McKegg has brought so far- but he was on the top unit PP last game.
Is McKegg going to get PP time during the regular season? No. What was he doing there last game?
The PK can't defend the 1-3-1. Are you guys watching tape of teams who do a good job of that and coaching your players accordingly? No. You lose a face-off on the PK are you are giving up chances.
All of that is on the coaching.
We are all expecting players to take a step forward this season, but the same expectation is placed on the coaches as well.
Rangers management made a mistake bringing back Ruff imo, and Olver. They don't strike me as the sharpest tools in the shed. I like the values that Quinn brings to the table, but you need more. You need tactics. You need foresight.
I'm not expecting this team to make the playoffs, but I am expecting progressive standards.
So far... the only thing I'm liking is how some of the cuts were handled.
In terms of a couple of player & coaching related reviews:
Rauenen needs to get in more games. Look it was valuable experience for Robertson to play... but the smarter move would be to ice a guy who is more ready. Robertson flat out sucked last night. That's not putting a kid in a place to succeed. Tarmo on the other hand played with smarts and pace- one of the only players to do so. He needs to get a longer look. Last night was a missed opportunity.
Really liking Chytil so far. Making smart and fast plays... to the point where I think he's playing around players who a step slower in their thinking and positioning. This is not a bad thing- but a good sign from Fil.
On Kravstov- I think he needs to stay up. Are there a couple of moments where he hung on to the puck too long. Yes. But he's made a lot of high skill plays and passes that opens up ice and creates the chance for pucks and bodies to move towards the net.
McKegg- He shouldn't be getting PP time. But he is a much much better player than Nieves in that 4th line LW/C role. It's his to lose imo.
Lemieux- He's going to play the rest of the way right? Is Nick Jones, Timmy Gets, Connor Brickley & Di Guisseppe going to play in the NHL every night? Where is the guy that can?
Line Changes- Another too many men on the ice penalty, and a bunch of scoring chances because you don't know how to coach a line change. This is the NHL and not college hockey. Get your shit together. Amateur hour means lost ticket sales and ratings. I'm okay with rebuilding, I'm not okay with amateurism. Get your shit together. Practice what you preach.
Rauenen needs to get in more games. Look it was valuable experience for Robertson to play... but the smarter move would be to ice a guy who is more ready. Robertson flat out sucked last night. That's not putting a kid in a place to succeed. Tarmo on the other hand played with smarts and pace- one of the only players to do so. He needs to get a longer look. Last night was a missed opportunity.
Really liking Chytil so far. Making smart and fast plays... to the point where I think he's playing around players who a step slower in their thinking and positioning. This is not a bad thing- but a good sign from Fil.
On Kravstov- I think he needs to stay up. Are there a couple of moments where he hung on to the puck too long. Yes. But he's made a lot of high skill plays and passes that opens up ice and creates the chance for pucks and bodies to move towards the net.
McKegg- He shouldn't be getting PP time. But he is a much much better player than Nieves in that 4th line LW/C role. It's his to lose imo.
Lemieux- He's going to play the rest of the way right? Is Nick Jones, Timmy Gets, Connor Brickley & Di Guisseppe going to play in the NHL every night? Where is the guy that can?
Line Changes- Another too many men on the ice penalty, and a bunch of scoring chances because you don't know how to coach a line change. This is the NHL and not college hockey. Get your shit together. Amateur hour means lost ticket sales and ratings. I'm okay with rebuilding, I'm not okay with amateurism. Get your shit together. Practice what you preach.
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Preach. Pee wees know not to get too many men penalties. Pisses me off so much when this team does it. It's a gimme for the other team.
I only disagree on Kravtsov. Unless a Namestnikov, Strome, or Kreider is dealt before opening night, there's no spot for him. While I see flashes of the skill and the potential, he's just not there yet. Playing 20 minutes a night in Hartford until the first major top 6 injury or until Christmas time wouldn't be the worst thing for him. For him to make the team for opening night, he would have to wow everyone in preseason. He hasn't done that in his ice time...yet.
Agree on Reunanen and prospects like Keane, Gettinger, Rykov, and Shesterkin. The Rangers need to see what they have in these guys. Same with Kravtsov. They're the ones that should be playing every game and not Micheal Haley. We all know what Haley is. AHL depth that can get called up and dressed for when the Rangers play cheap shot artist teams like the Caps and Flyers.
It's hard to formulate line-ups right now given how the team's been icing their rosters so far but he's what I would go with.
Bread-Zibs-Kakko
Kreider-Chytil-Buch
Names-Howden-Strome
Lemeuix-Andy-Fast
McKegg
Good news is from this situation is that you can move our Strome and Names as rentals (w. Strome as a RFA). I would do whatever I can to get one of those two off the roster ASAP to call up Vitali. I think Kravstov is much better served in the NHL than the AHL, but waivers and cap constraints will cause one of the waiver eligible kids to go down.
Of the upcoming sell-offs. The Rangers can certainly afford to move Fast, Names & Strome any time before the trade deadline and upgrade their roster.
Totally get what you are saying- It's managing the roster with Kravstov. Just posted exactly what you said. Still think Vitali would be better off in the NHL than AHL, but it's a matter of roster fit and cap space opening night. I would love to see one of Names or Strome moved. Preferably Names due to Strome being a RH shot.
I'm seriously beginning to question the intelligence level of the coaching staff. They are lacking foresight. The excuse ridden post game interviews are getting tiresome and we haven't started the season yet.
And I like Quinn but I don't like what they are doing.
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McKegg has looked pretty good. He should be on the 4th line on opening night. He is a better player than Nieves.
Apparently I'm in the minority but I don't have any issue with fringe players getting looks in preseason games. The Rangers need to see what they have in these guys and this is the time to do it instead of trying to fit them in when the games actually matter. For all of the talk from Quinn about so many open spots, we know who's in line to fill them. There's 14 or 15 forwards and 8 or 9 D who are realistically in the mix and the battle for those spots will go on well into the early parts of the year.
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If the Rangers wanted more looks for their regulars, they would schedule more pre-season games. They don't.
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