Speculation: 2025 Trade/Free Agency Thread (TDL is March 7th)

[KaseMeOutside]

would we rather see mintyukov or zellwegger be the one shipped out? i'm going to guess it'll be zellwegger

Well I am worried Mintyukov is going to get ruined and not be the guy he showed potential of being so you could justify trading him while his value is still high

 

[AngelDuck]

I don’t see any chance Zellweger or Minty get moved in the next 8 months but you never know.

A Zegras trade is far more likely.

Just my opinion

 

[Bergey37]

What's the cost of keeping Dumo right now, a 4th or at best a 3rd pick trading him as a rental? For mw, the idea of trading Minty or Zwll in a package for a true FW upgrade is a real possibility, but that's a trade that likely doesn't happen until draft day. For me, what we might get for Dumo as a rental os a small price to pay for that flexibility.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Moving Minty at all is a mistake waiting to happen. I still firmly believe he'll be better than Lacombe in the long run. Zell I could see for a good young winger.

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

Moving Minty at all is a mistake waiting to happen. I still firmly believe he'll be better than Lacombe in the long run. Zell I could see for a good young winger.

Not criticizing you for this take at all - I just find it interesting how people watching the same team have such differing opinions. I would say exactly what you said but switch Minty and Zellweger.

Again not criticizing at all, just interesting!

 

[ScarTroy]

Not criticizing you for this take at all - I just find it interesting how people watching the same team have such differing opinions. I would say exactly what you said but switch Minty and Zellweger.

Again not criticizing at all, just interesting!

That’s because Minty is getting mostly defensive starts, while Zell isn’t. @Hockey Duckie has posted the stats in one of the threads, but if I remember right the difference was staggering.

 

[All Mighty]

There goes one Dumoulin suitor.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Moving Minty at all is a mistake waiting to happen. I still firmly believe he'll be better than Lacombe in the long run. Zell I could see for a good young winger.

This is where I’m at

Not criticizing you for this take at all - I just find it interesting how people watching the same team have such differing opinions. I would say exactly what you said but switch Minty and Zellweger.

Again not criticizing at all, just interesting!

I understand where you’re coming from. For me, it’s the lack of size for zellwegger rhats the deciding factor. When playoffs come around, and the game gets faster and heavier. He will be limited unfortunately.

 

[Leonardo87]

Doesn’t feel like it’s TDL. I’m just happy the Ducks are playing meaningful hockey in March.

 

[Deuce22]

Guys like Dumoulin are a dime a dozen. 21 year old NHLers with big upsides aren’t.

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

Guys like Dumoulin are a dime a dozen. 21 year old NHLers with big upsides aren’t.

100% true. What’s also true is the Ducks are in the enviable position to have multiple of those kind of guys. They could trade one to improve the forward group and still have 2 of them. Which would still be an enviable position of alot of NHL teams

I hear what you’re saying and you’re not wrong

 

[Deuce22]

100% true. What’s also true is the Ducks are in the enviable position to have multiple of those kind of guys. They could trade one to improve the forward group and still have 2 of them. Which would still be an enviable position of alot of NHL teams

I hear what you’re saying and you’re not wrong

It would have to be a young top 6 forward before I’d trade either. I still have Theodore bitterness.

 

[2faded]

Well I am worried Mintyukov is going to get ruined and not be the guy he showed potential of being so you could justify trading him while his value is still high

Players go through sophomore slumps. We could have the best coach in the world and Minty could still be struggling just as much.

Last year Minty was our future #1 and now all of a sudden he's equal to or less than Zell? I don't see it. If anyone gets moved it should be Zell and not Minty. However, I'd like the think the organization has learned a lesson on trading young promising D and waits a bit longer before trading either. But ya never know.

 

[Gliff]

Wild that anyone would be willing to trade Zellweger or Minty in order to facilitate keeping Dumoulin.

Like. Absolutely mind blowing.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

I don’t see any chance Zellweger or Minty get moved in the next 8 months but you never know.

A Zegras trade is far more likely.

Just my opinion

I don't know why we would trade from a position of relative weakness (forwards) vs. relative strength (LD)

Wild that anyone would be willing to trade Zellweger or Minty in order to facilitate keeping Dumoulin.

Like. Absolutely mind blowing.

Idk, I don't think anyone is suggesting it to keep Dumo. More like those two players would acquire an actually decent player in return, whereas Dumo would fetch like a 3rd round pick.

FWIW I am more okay with trading Zellweger than Mintyukov.

 

[LuGBuG]

Wild that anyone would be willing to trade Zellweger or Minty in order to facilitate keeping Dumoulin.

Like. Absolutely mind blowing.

I think it’s more about trading something of value for something of value. Whatever we get for Dumo most likely never ever impacts our team in any way.

 

[ADHB]

Wild that anyone would be willing to trade Zellweger or Minty in order to facilitate keeping Dumoulin.

Like. Absolutely mind blowing.

I don't think keeping Dumo is being suggested as the reason for trading one of the young D. It's the fact that we are woefully short on top 6 forwards. If we can somehow use Zell or Minty to get one, and then still have Dumo on the 3rd pairing (with Lacombe and whichever one is left ahead of him) + a young top 6 scorer? There's nothing wrong with that.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Wild that anyone would be willing to trade Zellweger or Minty in order to facilitate keeping Dumoulin.

Like. Absolutely mind blowing.

I dont think anyone has said it that way...

I think people flirted with the idea of trading zell/mintyukov for a legit forward option... and keeping dumo around in that scenario.... which i wouldnt call trading those guys to keep Dumo. If dumo could bring back the type of forward we need... id do that... but he cant.

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

It would have to be a young top 6 forward before I’d trade either. I still have Theodore bitterness.

1000000%

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

I dont think anyone has said it that way...

I think people flirted with the idea of trading zell/mintyukov for a legit forward option... and keeping dumo around in that scenario.... which i wouldnt call trading those guys to keep Dumo. If dumo could bring back the type of forward we need... id do that... but he cant.

Except that a decision on Dumo has to be made in less than a week. And that's way too soon to make any decision on trading Zell or Minty. At the very latest you have to make a decision about re-signing Dumo by July 1. And again, that's way too soon to commit to trading one of the young D.

So the whole idea of trading one of the young guys for a F and, oh by the way we'll keep Dumo to fill in would be a forced decision because of the timing. And IMO that's a very bad idea.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Doesn’t feel like it’s TDL. I’m just happy the Ducks are playing meaningful hockey in March.

Would have been a much more interesting deadline with an unextended Tank, but it’s this weird spot where there’s not much to move outside of Dumo and Fabbri, but we’re also not really buyers. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if we end up doing nothing.

 

[JAHV]

Wild that anyone would be willing to trade Zellweger or Minty in order to facilitate keeping Dumoulin.

Like. Absolutely mind blowing.

I don't think that's what anyone is saying. What seems to be the thought is that the Ducks have a logjam on the left side. Even if Dumuolin is gone and both Mintyukov and Zellweger are retained, one of them is either getting 3rd pairing minutes or playing on his offside. Not the end of the world, but not ideal.

So if one of the kids can be moved for a good forward upgrade, Dumuolin makes a decent stopgap as a 6/7 guy while we see what we have in Smith or Stolberg.

That's my interpretation of the ideas here. No one is thinking Dumuolin is worth more to the Ducks than the other two, but that Mintyukov or Zellweger could bring in an upgrade somewhere else and their spot could be filled by Dumuolin. It's reasonable to me.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Except that a decision on Dumo has to be made in less than a week. And that's way too soon to make any decision on trading Zell or Minty. At the very latest you have to make a decision about re-signing Dumo by July 1. And again, that's way too soon to commit to trading one of the young D.

So the whole idea of trading one of the young guys for a F and, oh by the way we'll keep Dumo to fill in would be a forced decision because of the timing. And IMO that's a very bad idea.

Fair.... but who really knows whats being discussed by PV

Weve been told for years Gibson/Zegras are on trade block... and they are here.

We had no idea that Drysdale was on the block to move, or that we were even really in on Gauthier.

Maybe hes talking deals... and there is a possibility

 

[la patineuse]

Players go through sophomore slumps. We could have the best coach in the world and Minty could still be struggling just as much.

Last year Minty was our future #1 and now all of a sudden he's equal to or less than Zell? I don't see it. If anyone gets moved it should be Zell and not Minty. However, I'd like the think the organization has learned a lesson on trading young promising D and waits a bit longer before trading either. But ya never know.

This is what I am worried about---that it will be Theodore and Montour (and to a lesser extent Pettersson) all over again.

 

[la patineuse]

Fair.... but who really knows whats being discussed by PV

Weve been told for years Gibson/Zegras are on trade block... and they are here.

We had no idea that Drysdale was on the block to move, or that we were even really in on Gauthier.

Maybe hes talking deals... and there is a possibility

Drysdale for Gauthier was not a trade deadline move though. The trade was made because Gauthier did not want to play for the Flyers.

If moving either Zellwegger or Mintykov for a young top 6 forward is being considered, why would this be done at the trade deadline? It seems like the majority of moves at the trade deadline are made because playoff teams are looking to shore up/improve they team for the playoffs (although they also may end up extending any players they trade for who are in a contract year). It seems like it makes more sense to move young players for young players around the draft or during the off season.