Post-Game Talk: Post Game NYI down the Jets

[Guffman]

When the Jets ran into a hot goaltender and should have otherwise won, perhaps the posters here can grab a brain and not blame our head coach for the result.

Look, I get it that a bunch of you have an axe to grind and want to rag on Maurice after every loss but you look completely unsophisticated doing that after games like this.

 

[Mbraunm]

Well no Letestu, no Bitetto, and the Jets still lose. Morrissey is struggling with the letter and responsibility. You want to see Wheeler dominate on the PP, put the shooter (Buff) not only in the slot and through the seam, but also at the top. Spreads the d out.

Positive side, Pionk and Heinola were strong. Poolman too. Morrissey-Buff, Heinola-Pionk, Kulikov-Poolman that's a contending defense.

Maurice made a real curious choice taking the draw of Nelson's strong side, after the icing. Especially given how good Lowry is on the draw. His curious decisions continue.

I am not panicking at 4-5. Little will give the team a boost. Buff will give the team leadership, and loosen up a room that seems to be a little tight right now.

If we can be anywhere near .500 at the quarter mark with this early schedule with a lot of hockey, and a lot of non-conference games, I think the team can get hot, and back on track, with the two players I mentioned coming back.

With Maurice as head coach we will not have a chance to get hot enough to get a wild card spot.

Just underperformance, a static PP1 (which the league has figured out a long time ago), a static PK, a dump and chase system not designed for a talent laden forward group, inappropriate bench management, unaccountable vets and the bromance.

 

[Mbraunm]

When the Jets ran into a hot goaltender and should have otherwise won, perhaps the posters here can grab a brain and not blame our head coach for the result.

Look, I get it that a bunch of you have an axe to grind and want to rag on Maurice after every loss but you look completely unsophisticated doing that after games like this.

Actually, the underlying metrics have been screaming this for a whole year now. Sorry, but for me, it has very little to do with this game. It is a long term trend which points the needle at the coaching staff.

 

[bluefan]

The good effort spiel is in full swing. Really 1290? "Play like that and they'll win 80% of the remaining games." This team will be the the Presidents Cup winner?

Jets playing the end of a period like a penalty kill again costing them the game, that's coaching. It's so disheartening to see a structured team like the Islanders.

 

[blues10]

Jets games becoming a drag to watch now, never felt like “ don’t care anymore” since the start of 2.0, don’t care is here now!

Going to start going back to my ceramics classes nights now instead of watching Jets hockey!

I’ll join you if they have the game in HD and you can bring beer.

 

[204hockey]

And laine is actually open a lot. I wish I could be bothered to screen shot some of the plays. Everything goes to wheeler who then sends a soft twister into the crest of the goalie or gets double teamed.

we need to get the puck to Laine better.

replace wheeler with Ehlers both in pp and 5x5.

you dont have to replace him just swap him and connor and use a right hand d and then you have 2 one time options and a down low play with wheeler and shief in slot. but maurice doesnt like to ruffle wheelers feathers. its so obv he runs the show. (wheeler not moe)

 

[wabagee]

When the Jets ran into a hot goaltender and should have otherwise won, perhaps the posters here can grab a brain and not blame our head coach for the result.

Look, I get it that a bunch of you have an axe to grind and want to rag on Maurice after every loss but you look completely unsophisticated doing that after games like this.

I’ve been in a suit and tie the entire time, drinking a nice Chardonnay the whole time! How dare you

joking, barely literate now.?

 

[tbcwpg]

When the Jets ran into a hot goaltender and should have otherwise won, perhaps the posters here can grab a brain and not blame our head coach for the result.

Look, I get it that a bunch of you have an axe to grind and want to rag on Maurice after every loss but you look completely unsophisticated doing that after games like this.

I didn't see a hot goaltender as much as a team who played well in front of their goalie and let him make some easy saves, against a team that looked like they had no answer for the clog the neutral zone system that has plagued them for all of last year.

The stats flattered the Jets, in my mind. Obviously I have no stats to support, but just from watching the game, especially in the third it didn't seem at all like they'd tie it up.

I'd agree with you that this particular game isn't on Maurice only. There was a boneheaded turnover at the end of the second, and some poor decision making from most of the Jets tonight. The same overall issues have persisted, though. I think the team has let Maurice down an awful lot since basically after the Tampa home game last December, but sometimes replacing the voice behind the bench is the simplest and most effective solution.

 

[Heldig]

All the good from the road trip - with a bunch of games in a short time with a decimated defense - is gone. 3 losses in a row at home SUCKS.

 

[Guffman]

Actually, the underlying metrics have been screaming this for a whole year now. Sorry, but for me, it has very little to do with this game. It is a long term trend which points the needle at the coaching staff.

Yep, and nothing to do with the defensive personnel, right?

 

[204hockey]

Well no Letestu, no Bitetto, and the Jets still lose. Morrissey is struggling with the letter and responsibility. You want to see Wheeler dominate on the PP, put the shooter (Buff) not only in the slot and through the seam, but also at the top. Spreads the d out.

Positive side, Pionk and Heinola were strong. Poolman too. Morrissey-Buff, Heinola-Pionk, Kulikov-Poolman that's a contending defense.

Maurice made a real curious choice taking the draw of Nelson's strong side, after the icing. Especially given how good Lowry is on the draw. His curious decisions continue.

I am not panicking at 4-5. Little will give the team a boost. Buff will give the team leadership, and loosen up a room that seems to be a little tight right now.

If we can be anywhere near .500 at the quarter mark with this early schedule with a lot of hockey, and a lot of non-conference games, I think the team can get hot, and back on track, with the two players I mentioned coming back.

morrisey is struggling because he doesnt have buff or trouba helping carry the load. he went from being thrid best to our only hope.. imagine the pressure hes under haha.. poor kid

 

[Bob E]

Was at the game. I thought the Jets played a solid game. Helle was good. Defence held up for the most part. Couldn’t beat Varlomov. It happens.

 

[Mbraunm]

Yep, and nothing to do with the defensive personnel, right?

True, the defensive personnel are a significant part of this equation.

However, a coach should attempt to make this team the best that it can be. Over the past year, all that we have seen from Maurice is underperformance, a static PP1 (which the league has figured out a long time ago), a static PK, a dump and chase system not designed for a talent laden forward group, inappropriate bench management, unaccountable vets and the bromance.

This is an obvious long term trend that began prior to this season.

 

[kxx]

I thought I read something about a kid who's a Jets fan from Halifax being in Winnipeg for the entire home stand? I may be wrong but if its true I feel bad for him. Poor guy.

Ugly games lately. At least it wasn't 2-7 I guess.

Heinola continues to be impressive.

 

[Saidin]

I want Maurice gone with the best of them, but that wasn't that bad of a game...

 

[GNP]

First of all, 160-170 points is absolutely bonkers and impossible in this NHL, McDavid included.
Second, there’s no conceivable way to get two NHL defencemen and one forward for Laine and fit it in under the cap.

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We wouldn't get established defenseman -- I'm talking 2 first rounders in their first year. ( entry level) and the same with the forward. A lot of people think Laine's going to be a superstar --but I have my doubts.

Very similar to a trade that was made in the NFL about 20 years ago. Everyone thought that Herschel Walker was going to tear the league apart. ( star running back in college) then went to Dallas.

Dallas then traded Herschel Walker for 5 or 6 first round draft picks to the Minnesota Vikings. Dallas rebuilt their defense, and went on to win 3-4 Superbowls with Troy Aikman and the boys. Herschel Walker, didn't do so well in Minnesota. This is the kind of example I'm talking about -- Laine could return some real good prospects.

It's a bit of a gamble --and it all depends on whether or not you think Laine will become the player many think he will -- I'm not really sold on him. He will be decent though -- but a Superstar ? --I'm not so sure.

 

[204hockey]

I thought I read something about a kid who's a Jets fan from Halifax being in Winnipeg for the entire home stand? I may be wrong but if its true I feel bad for him. Poor guy.

Ugly games lately. At least it wasn't 2-7 I guess.

Heinola continues to be impressive.

someone find that kid and give him the boot.. what a little jinx

 

[Adam da bomb]

Roslo and Connor can't score. They put themselves into position to do it but just can't.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I thought I read something about a kid who's a Jets fan from Halifax being in Winnipeg for the entire home stand? I may be wrong but if its true I feel bad for him. Poor guy.

Ugly games lately. At least it wasn't 2-7 I guess.

Heinola continues to be impressive.

Heinola was our best D.

 

[Robinson2187]

And laine is actually open a lot. I wish I could be bothered to screen shot some of the plays. Everything goes to wheeler who then sends a soft twister into the crest of the goalie or gets double teamed.

we need to get the puck to Laine better.

replace wheeler with Ehlers both in pp and 5x5.

Wholly f*** this! How many times did that happen tonight 7? Why is the offence putting it to Wheeler when Laine's out there? Infuriating

 

[AKAChip]

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We wouldn't get established defenseman -- I'm talking 2 first rounders in their first year. ( entry level) and the same with the forward. A lot of people think Laine's going to be a superstar --but I have my doubts.

Very similar to a trade that was made in the NFL about 20 years ago. Everyone thought that Herschel Walker was going to tear the league apart. ( star running back in college) then went to Dallas.

Dallas then traded Herschel Walker for 5 or 6 first round draft picks to the Minnesota Vikings. Dallas rebuilt their defense, and went on to win 3-4 Superbowls with Troy Aikman and the boys. Herschel Walker, didn't do so well in Minnesota. This is the kind of example I'm talking about -- Laine could return some real good prospects.

It's a bit of a gamble --and it all depends on whether or not you think Laine will become the player many think he will -- I'm not really sold on him. He will be decent though -- but a Superstar ? --I'm not so sure.

If we can get two first round defencemen and a great forward for Laine, of course we do that. But it’s never going to happen because it’s so lopsided that no competent GM would make that deal. The Herschel Walker trade was 30 years ago, in a different league and nothing like it would happen today.
I mean, I can’t begrudge the imagination here but nothing about this is remotely feasible.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Down a goal at the end of the game, why wouldn’t any coach put together a line of your best performing players?

why would you not replace wheeler with Ehlers?

I can’t think of a single good reason not to try it for the good of the team and to get another win.

 

[Robinson2187]

Jets games becoming a drag to watch now, never felt like “ don’t care anymore” since the start of 2.0, don’t care is here now!

Going to start going back to my ceramics classes nights now instead of watching Jets hockey!

Aw c'mon don't be a "Ghost"

 

[AKAChip]

Wholly **** this! How many times did that happen tonight 7? Why is the offence putting it to Wheeler when Laine's out there? Infuriating

If we’re being totally honest, having the PP go through Laine on the left side half wall would be a massive improvement. Teams have to respect his shot and it’s good enough to be effective even without the one timer. And his vision is just as good as Wheeler’s.

 

[AKAChip]

Down a goal at the end of the game, why wouldn’t any coach put together a line of your best performing players?

why would you not replace wheeler with Ehlers?

I can’t think of a single good reason not to try it for the good of the team and to get another win.

Nothing logical makes sense so the illogical is probably true; Maurice is terrified of Wheeler. If you believe that to be true, it explains a hell of a lot of the things plaguing this team.