Post-Game Talk: Post Game NYI down the Jets

[bennylundholm]

Maurice and special teams coaches have effectively coached that possibility out of his game.
When I watch Washington play, they actually move around quite a bit to create options. There is no creativity in our PP1. No movement. That is 100% on coaching staff.

Bingo!!!

 

[AKAChip]

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I guess you didn't pat attention when he shot ?? He had a great accurate shot from the point, and was right up there in scoring for Jet's defenseman --"all the time"

I can understand if you didn't like him --but really--call it like it is, or what it was.

He did a decent job getting his shot through but it wasn’t hard at all. Especially relative to other guys around his size. That’s a fact regardless of how you feel about the player.

 

[Luc Labelle]

I was ready for Luc to jump over the glass, judo chop Kompon, eye poke Huddy, ***** slap Woodcroft, and drop kick Maurice, then he would start barking out plays and the Jets would magically transform into the team we hoped for.................. ya my mind wandered during the game.

My mind started to wander as well... and I said to myself what would bustamente have me do. That was exactly what I imagined you would say. At the 7 minute mark I got up to do this but security gave me a look. I should have at least taken off my jacket and whipped the crowd and players into a frenzy.

Loved the robertcarlos response... I had been waiting for a poster to wonder who the **** is Luc. The majority of HF posters would have no clue. I read a ton of posts every day but post only on rare occasions as evidenced by my start date and extremely low post count.

I will say this... we will miss the playoffs, draft a star center who will go on to score our first Stanley Cup game winning goal. In the meantime, enjoy the growing pains.

 

[thejaf7]

Did we sell out this game?

 

[tbcwpg]

I'm surprised to see some of the positives here. It was my first game in attendance and I felt only Ehlers and Hellebuyck were worth the price of admission. My wife, who goes more for a night out than to actually watch the game, said she thought that both teams looked slow.

Maurice has his faults but, just like I've said all summer about last year, there has been some really bad decision making this year. Maurice isn't coaching Kulikov to follow Dahlstrom into the corner and leave two guys open in the slot, for example.

The coaching needs some work on the special teams. The first PP is awful. The seven or so seconds they spent on the PK were bad - I've never seen a team attempt so many weak clearances. It also seemed at the end that the players were yelling at him to call the time out.

They had a lot of shots, yes, but I didn't feel that they were all that dangerous, outside of the first period. Varlamov got a lot of free looks and his glove was working well.

 

[sipowicz]

Jets games becoming a drag to watch now, never felt like “ don’t care anymore” since the start of 2.0, don’t care is here now!

Going to start going back to my ceramics classes nights now instead of watching Jets hockey!

 

[AKAChip]

Exactly, for most of last year, despite our glut of talent, most of our underlying metrics were poor-a vastly underperforming team. Why is that? (btw, the answer is quite obvious)

Does it have something to do with a switch?

 

[None]

Did we sell out this game?

Yep, reported attendance 15063.

 

[ffh]

And laine is actually open a lot. I wish I could be bothered to screen shot some of the plays. Everything goes to wheeler who then sends a soft twister into the crest of the goalie or gets double teamed.

we need to get the puck to Laine better.

replace wheeler with Ehlers both in pp and 5x5.

I know wheeler fumbles the puck alot but he still does alot of good on the pp. I mean have you see ehlers. He fumbles the puck way more and is nowhere near as good a passer. Plus he looks like the go to guy on pp2. If he could shoot straighter he should have had 2 goals tonight.

 

[Mbraunm]

How is Maurice so blind to their strengths?

I have given up on him. He is incapable of deploying and executing systems for talented teams.

 

[Spock]

Yep, reported attendance 15063.

That's short.

 

[AKAChip]

I know wheeler fumbles the puck alot but he still does alot of good on the pp. I mean have you see ehlers. He fumbles the puck way more and is nowhere near as good a passer. Plus he looks like the go to guy on pp2. If he could shoot straighter he should have had 2 goals tonight.

Does he do a lot of good on the PP? It’s been trash for almost a calendar year now and he’s basically the only guy who touches the puck on the PP one with any sort of regularity. His PP stats are more volume inflated than anything.

 

[AKAChip]

I have given up on him. He is incapable of deploying and executing systems for talented teams.

I think the crux of the Maurice issue is this, even with Byfuglien back and maybe another piece on the back end, does anyone actually see Maurice as the leader who will turn the fortunes around? We have people on here still talking about growing pains for god’s sake! Once a team tunes the coach out, there’s no going back.

 

[ffh]

Does he do a lot of good on the PP? It’s been trash for almost a calendar year now and he’s basically the only guy who touches the puck on the PP one with any sort of regularity. His PP stats are more volume inflated than anything.

Didn't they finish 4th in league on pp last year.

 

[None]

That's short.

Yeah, ~250 or so short actually.

 

[GNP]

McDavid is already on pace for 199 points. Laine needs 5 goals on Sunday.

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Laine is not close to being near as good as McDavid -- I doubt he ever will be. It wouldn't surprise me to see McDavid put up 160 -170 points this year, or next. He would leave Laine standing still, standing in his wake. It's not even close.

If I was Chevy I'd strongly consider trading Laine -- because I think he's overrated. I think we could get 2 defensenman, and maybe a great forward for him.

Depending on the return -- I think the Jet's could rebuild their team, trading off Laine. I think he's a great scorer, but he's overrated --and it's a good time to trade him.

If I was Chevy I'd seriously consider trading off Laine --for a great return. Pull the "trigger."

 

[Roughneck1]

Lots of denial here
We do NOT look good

Well we looked better then the other team. Anyway the game I was seeing. They need to start getting people in front of the goalie. Too much perimeter playing.

 

[Mud Turtle]

No issue with their effort tonight.
They easily played well enough to win and much better than some previous games.
Heinola is a keeper.
Kuli is pretty close to being a non NHL’er now.
Jets deserved a win tonight.

 

[AKAChip]

Didn't they finish 4th in league on pp last year.

They were incredible until January and then they went in the toilet. Have been bad for nine games this season as well. At some point, after a year of failure, you have to start to wonder if that’s largely what they’re capable of.

 

[wabagee]

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Laine is not close to being near as good as McDavid -- I doubt he ever will be. It wouldn't surprise me to see McDavid put up 160 -170 points this year, or next. He would leave Laine standing still, standing in his wake. It's not even close.

If I was Chevy I'd strongly consider trading Laine -- because I think he's overrated. I think we could get 2 defensenman, and maybe a great forward for him.

Depending on the return -- I think the Jet's could rebuild their team, trading off Laine. I think he's a great scorer, but he's overrated --and a good time to trade him.

Can we trade you to Chicago? I know a more well liked guy!

 

[voyageur]

Well no Letestu, no Bitetto, and the Jets still lose. Morrissey is struggling with the letter and responsibility. You want to see Wheeler dominate on the PP, put the shooter (Buff) not only in the slot and through the seam, but also at the top. Spreads the d out.

Positive side, Pionk and Heinola were strong. Poolman too. Morrissey-Buff, Heinola-Pionk, Kulikov-Poolman that's a contending defense.

Maurice made a real curious choice taking the draw of Nelson's strong side, after the icing. Especially given how good Lowry is on the draw. His curious decisions continue.

I am not panicking at 4-5. Little will give the team a boost. Buff will give the team leadership, and loosen up a room that seems to be a little tight right now.

If we can be anywhere near .500 at the quarter mark with this early schedule with a lot of hockey, and a lot of non-conference games, I think the team can get hot, and back on track, with the two players I mentioned coming back.

 

[Mbraunm]

I think the crux of the Maurice issue is this, even with Byfuglien back and maybe another piece on the back end, does anyone actually see Maurice as the leader who will turn the fortunes around? We have people on here still talking about growing pains for god’s sake! Once a team tunes the coach out, there’s no going back.

And why wouldn’t the players eventually tune out this coach. He has made no obvious adjustments on special teams, nor in deployment to make this team better. Even a layperson knows that Wheeler with Little solves our 2C “problem” for which we have given up 2 first round draft picks to solve!
I could go on and on here, but if amateurs realise the many OBVIOUS coaching flaws, don’t you think the players, outside of the bromance, can see it as well?

 

[AKAChip]

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Laine is not close to being near as good as McDavid -- I doubt he ever will be. It wouldn't surprise me to see McDavid put up 160 -170 points this year, or next. He would leave Laine standing still, standing in his wake. It's not even close.

If I was Chevy I'd strongly consider trading Laine -- because I think he's overrated. I think we could get 2 defensenman, and maybe a great forward for him.

Depending on the return -- I think the Jet's could rebuild their team, trading off Laine. I think he's a great scorer, but he's overrated --and a good time to trade him.

First of all, 160-170 points is absolutely bonkers and impossible in this NHL, McDavid included.
Second, there’s no conceivable way to get two NHL defencemen and one forward for Laine and fit it in under the cap.

 

[bennylundholm]

And laine is actually open a lot. I wish I could be bothered to screen shot some of the plays. Everything goes to wheeler who then sends a soft twister into the crest of the goalie or gets double teamed.

we need to get the puck to Laine better.

replace wheeler with Ehlers both in pp and 5x5.

Exactly. I can't believe the coaches can't see this.
For the first time, I am becoming disinterested in the Jets.
I see no hope for them advancing at all in the playoffs with Wheeler running the PP as he is not capable. Ehlers is our best puckhandler and skater and for the life of me I can't figure out why he isn't running the PP1.

 

[wabagee]

First of all, 160-170 points is absolutely bonkers and impossible in this NHL, McDavid included.
Second, there’s no conceivable way to get two NHL defencemen and one forward for Laine and fit it in under the cap.

He’s underrated but gets two defense men and a great forward.