Rumor: Pagnotta: "Rasmus Andersson is open to a trade, he would welcome it" It would cost 3 assets...1st rnd pick, prospect, +

[GeeoffBrown]

Flames are one spot out of the playoffs--why would they trade a key piece to their D?

The issue is the long-term outlook for the team is not great. Also, Flames have a -14 goal differential, so the place in the standings may be a little misleading

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

And those teams have the crappiest packages to offer.

Their prospects don't exist because they've already been good for a while, good/cheap/extended roster players are off the table because then they're just filling one hole to create another and their picks are going to be super low and borderline worthless.

I would trade Andersson for Ritchie and Girard ngl.

 

[Sticksandsun]

Flames should help Panthers one more time. He'd fit in so well.

2026 1st + Sawchyn + 2027 2nd

 

[VancouverJagger]

Would Lekkermaki, Raty, A first and a 3rd do it? From a Canucks perspective I'd do that in a heartbeat.

 

[Goalfield13]

Andersson will go for more than that. A first, good prospect and steady NHLer. Non retain

Contender will only be able to offer late first. I doubt Calgary wants another 30rd pick in draft.

Flames own first back will have double the value to Calgary. Be around 12-15. Montreal be high in the bid. Habs have the pick and prospects Calgary looking for. Montreal has big need and nearing end of rebuild.

At this point, if the Habs don't get Andersson, it will be due to the player not being interested in a long term deal. We have the assets to get it done and the need for this type of player.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Andersson would complete the Leafs D core. If the flames fall out of the playoff race I'd give up 2026 1st+Cowan + Danford + Kampf for Andersson 50% retained.

 

[MNRube]

Willander for Rasmus
Byram + Helenius for Rasmus
Power for Rasmus
Rinzel + 1st + B prospect for Rasmus
Nikishin for Rasmus

Buffalo has to be in on Rasmus or Carlo. They can’t keep trotting out 3 young LHD with offensively oriented skillsets and have no veteran RHD of note.

Somehow he will end up in Vegas

 

[Fjordy]

Willander for Rasmus
Byram + Helenius for Rasmus
Power for Rasmus
Rinzel + 1st + B prospect for Rasmus
Nikishin for Rasmus

Buffalo has to be in on Rasmus or Carlo. They can’t keep trotting out 3 young LHD with offensively oriented skillsets and have no veteran RHD of note.

Somehow he will end up in Vegas

Too much for me. Andersson hasn't had that long a term and Byram played well in the first pair with Dahlin. And your deals are weird, value is different.

 

[Lunatik]

Pagnotta is the 2024 Eklund... he's good for no more than a quick laugh at his stupidity

 

[WTFMAN99]

Pagnotta is the 2024 Eklund... he's good for no more than a quick laugh at his stupidity

Yeah, he was solid for 1-2 years there but the last 2-3 years...it's been more miss than hit.

 

[Lunatik]

Yeah, he was solid for 1-2 years there but the last 2-3 years...it's been more miss than hit.

I don't recall him ever being solid lol

 

[CupofOil]

Pagnotta should get the Eklund tag. What has this guy called to get the tag of "insider" in any capacity? I've seen him confirm things that the real insiders called already but even I can do that from the cozy confines of my keyboard

 

[lettuceAA]

I don't think the Flames are looking to trade him at this point. But if the right offer came a long I'm sure they would pull the trigger. At the deadline if they are out of the playoffs race then he'll be moved, teams will pay a big premium for a RH dman with his skill set.

 

[Edgelord]

I don't think the Flames are looking to trade him at this point. But if the right offer came a long I'm sure they would pull the trigger. At the deadline if they are out of the playoffs race then he'll be moved, teams will pay a big premium for a RH dman with his skill set.

If even half of the big names rumoured to be available or gm's are listening on get traded this season. Its going to be one of the most entertaining seasons trade wise.

 

[MNRube]

Too much for me. Andersson hasn't had that long a term and Byram played well in the first pair with Dahlin. And your deals are weird, value is different.

Of course Byram played well with Dahlin. But the rest of their blueline is left abysmally understaffed. They are arrogant to not have secured at least one veteran RHD. You draft two offensive #1 overall LHD and then your first big move is to add another one? That’s insane.

Sorry my deals are weird to you. HF is full of people who nitpick player comps and trade proposals but never offer up any. RHD vets with even 1.5 years of term go for a lot and are almost never on the market. Something you’d think a Sabres fan would be keenly aware of. The return for him will decline with time, unless the market for D changes. But right now he’s worth a fortune

 

[Fjordy]

Of course Byram played well with Dahlin. But the rest of their blueline is left abysmally understaffed. They are arrogant to not have secured at least one veteran RHD. You draft two offensive #1 overall LHD and then your first big move is to add another one? That’s insane.

Sorry my deals are weird to you. HF is full of people who nitpick player comps and trade proposals but never offer up any. RHD vets with even 1.5 years of term go for a lot and are almost never on the market. Something you’d think a Sabres fan would be keenly aware of

Well, look at it yourself. Byram + Helenius (our best prospect), and in the other deal you just trade Willander for Andersson. To me, that's weird. The value is different. Byram and some minor upside for Andersson is fair, but nothing more. I wouldn't trade Power for Andersson either.

Andersson would probably be an improvement for us, but not that much. ( I mean anyone can play with Dahlin and that player will almost always look decent). We still need to get another top 4 RD, a top 6 C and a good winger in the top 9. Our assets are not endless either.

 

[MNRube]

Well, look at it yourself. Byram + Helenius (our best prospect), and in the other deal you just trade Willander for Andersson. To me, that's weird. The value is different. Byram and some minor upside for Andersson is fair, but nothing more. I wouldn't trade Power for Andersson either.

Andersson would probably be an improvement for us, but not that much. ( I mean anyone can play with Dahlin and that player will almost always look decent). We still need to get another top 4 RD, a top 6 C and a good winger in the top 9. Our assets are not endless either.

Willander is as safe as it gets for prospects. Much like Nikishin. Plus you get the entry level years and long-term team control.

Byram is owed a huge raise, has injury history and Helenius is more of a B+ prospect than a true blue-chipper.

Plus there is the reality that GMs know Buffalo is desperate. They are going to have to overpay for a veteran RHD. They could get a lesser RHD to pair with Power, but even those guys (Carlo, B.Schneider — those types) are expensive and hard to acquire. Especially for Buffalo in FA when there is such a history of dysfunction.

I also think you are massively underrated Rasmus. He’d be a huge upgrade. You’d immediately have one of best D pairs, if not the very best, in the whole league. And still Power to build a dependable 2nd pair. Or put RA w/ Power and then you have two 1st pairs basically. Teams built that way always are in the mix.

Not sure what Helenius adds long-term that Buffalo doesn’t already have.

Buffalo needs to be in on a veteran RHD. Maybe an overpay for A.Larsson. But it is a ridiculous oversight by them to have let it go this long. Adams is paralyzed by fear of seeing one of his young Fs blow up on another team and it’s stalled the organization’s growth.

 

[Fjordy]

Willander is as safe as it gets for prospects. Much like Nikishin. Plus you get the entry level years and long-term team control.

Byram is owed a huge raise, has injury history and Helenius is more of a B+ prospect than a true blue-chipper.

Plus there is the reality that GMs know Buffalo is desperate. They are going to have to overpay for a veteran RHD. They could get a lesser RHD to pair with Power, but even those guys (Carlo, B.Schneider — those types) are expensive and hard to acquire. Especially for Buffalo in FA when there is such a history of dysfunction.

I also think you are massively underrated Rasmus. He’d be a huge upgrade. You’d immediately have one of best D pairs, if not the very best, in the whole league. And still Power to build a dependable 2nd pair. Or put RA w/ Power and then you have two 1st pairs basically. Teams built that way always are in the mix.

Not sure what Helenius adds long-term that Buffalo doesn’t already have.

Ok, I disagree here. Willander is still just a prospect, albeit a good one. I value Byram differently, his contract is still unknown. Andersson is rumored to be looking for 9 million in a year and a half. Maybe Byram is thinking a few million less. Helenius may not be an elite prospect, but for me he is an A prospect, he is exactly the kind of center that we do not have at all. This does not mean that he is unavailable, but I see this as an overpayment, we are not even sure that Andersson will not go to UFA after some time, and we will be left with nothing or just sell him at TDL in a year. No thanks.

Yes, we need RDs, but mostly defensive guys, or just complementary guys like Fabbro, such players are often not expensive. Look at how RDs traded this summer or even at the beginning of the season. Marino for a few 2nd (he would have fit us perfectly, but our GM is an idiot). Kovacevic for 4th, Jensen was traded. We could have gotten Fabbro for almost nothing, but then again our GM...

The idea of adding Andersson is tempting, but at a reasonable price. Do you think we are desperate? No, our owner is playing the role of POHO and has publicly stated that the decision is in this room and no trades. Our GM is constantly allegedly involved in some trade rumors, but rarely makes a move to help the team, he does it after the playoffs are over or in the summer, and even then not very significant.

 

[Faceboner]

Sabres 26 top 5 protecte+25 2nd+sammy+rosen+krebs

 

[crackdown44]

Ok, I disagree here. Willander is still just a prospect, albeit a good one. I value Byram differently, his contract is still unknown. Andersson is rumored to be looking for 9 million in a year and a half. Maybe Byram is thinking a few million less. Helenius may not be an elite prospect, but for me he is an A prospect, he is exactly the kind of center that we do not have at all. This does not mean that he is unavailable, but I see this as an overpayment, we are not even sure that Andersson will not go to UFA after some time, and we will be left with nothing or just sell him at TDL in a year. No thanks.

Yes, we need RDs, but mostly defensive guys, or just complementary guys like Fabbro, such players are often not expensive. Look at how RDs traded this summer or even at the beginning of the season. Marino for a few 2nd (he would have fit us perfectly, but our GM is an idiot). Kovacevic for 4th, Jensen was traded. We could have gotten Fabbro for almost nothing, but then again our GM...

The idea of adding Andersson is tempting, but at a reasonable price. Do you think we are desperate? No, our owner is playing the role of POHO and has publicly stated that the decision is in this room and no trades. Our GM is constantly allegedly involved in some trade rumors, but rarely makes a move to help the team, he does it after the playoffs are over or in the summer, and even then not very significant.

Agree with your assessment of Willander vs Helenius but where does the bolded come from. I’ve seen nothing to indicate that