Rumor: Pagnotta: John Klingberg has requested a trade

ToDavid

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If I had to guess, based on these it sounds like he hasn’t made a formal request to be traded immediately, but contract talks have stalled and he’s let them know his preference is to be moved to a playoff team by the deadline if an extension isn’t agreed on.
 
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serp

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The issue with re-signing Klingberg is the team can't have another big underperforming contract. Benn and Seguins deals are already hurting the team . Not to mention Robertson needs a new deal and he will get alot of money.
 

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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I'd be all over this if I were Dubas for 2 reasons

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Rielly Brodie

Muzzin Klingberg would be an elite top 4.

#2 it keeps him away from Florida or Tampa and if you are tne Leafs you DO NOT want Klingberg in Florida or Tampa
 

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I'd be all over this if I were Dubas for 2 reasons

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Rielly Brodie

Muzzin Klingberg would be an elite top 4.

#2 it keeps him away from Florida or Tampa and if you are tne Leafs you DO NOT want Klingberg in Florida or Tampa

Klingberg in Tampa, woof. Dunno if they would have the horses to make a deal though - also, very little cap space.
 

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It’s quite simple. He’s been underpaid for a lot of years, and he sees all these ufa deals like benn, sequin, pieterangelo, Hamilton, nurse all get there retirement contracts, and he wants one to. But the jig is up. Nil has regrets I’m sure on the sequin and benn contracts and he’s not gonna make mistake #3. Sorry John klingberg, you got the short end of the stick. GM’s are starting to learn not to give out ufa bloated retirement contracts, good for the player bad for the team.
 

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I'd be all over this if I were Dubas for 2 reasons

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Rielly Brodie

Muzzin Klingberg would be an elite top 4.

#2 it keeps him away from Florida or Tampa and if you are tne Leafs you DO NOT want Klingberg in Florida or Tampa
What would be your offer, no cap dumps, unless your giving an extra asset to offset it.
 

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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What would be your offer, no cap dumps, unless your giving an extra asset to offset it.

You got make the money work some but I'd be willing to talk about Amirov, Robertson, 1sts rounders, Nemela, not all oif them would go in the same deal obviously.

But if I'm Dubas nothing is off limits because I think Klingberg is a difference maker and for a difference maker I will talk about almost anything.
 

jfhabs

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Still need a: Doughty/Pietrangelo/Chara if youre comparing to those teams. D depth doesnt look great in this coming draft unfortunately.

Im worried Wright isnt gonna be the elite 1C we think, would much rather them tank hard next year for one of the two phenoms, and then suck another year to draft a Dman. Romy and Guhle arent PP QBs. Norlinder is too early to tell, but certainly not a franchise D.
100% would prefer Bedard/Mtchkov. Still think there are some very nice players in the top 10 this year

We'd ideally one of our guys to have a none linear progression on defense for sure. A guy like Norlinder or Mailloux have an outside chance of becoming a PP quarterback IMO.
 

Dr Pepper

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From the latest reports it seems more like Nill isn't willing to budge and has shut down negotiations with Klingberg's camp......which sends a pretty clear signal.
 

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100% would prefer Bedard/Mtchkov. Still think there are some very nice players in the top 10 this year

We'd ideally one of our guys to have a none linear progression on defense for sure. A guy like Norlinder or Mailloux have an outside chance of becoming a PP quarterback IMO.
but a franchise Dman? Every Cup winner has one: Hedman, Carlson, Pietro, Letang, Keith, Doughty, Chara... PIT did win one without Letang, but I mean Crosby, Malkin, Kessel made up for that.

Not saying its impossible, but I think its almost just as necessary as 1C.
 

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I'd be all over this if I were Dubas for 2 reasons

#1

Rielly Brodie

Muzzin Klingberg would be an elite top 4.

#2 it keeps him away from Florida or Tampa and if you are tne Leafs you DO NOT want Klingberg in Florida or Tampa
Sure dude, And where do you think the Leafs are coming up with the money to sign Klingberg long term. Even with the cap going up to $82,500,000 this summer. That barely leaves Toronto with $7,900,000 to sign 8 players. And Klingberg wants 8 years $64,000,000 the Leafs can't afford him without moving out some big contracts like Nylander or Marner.
 

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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Sure dude, And where do you think the Leafs are coming up with the money to sign Klingberg long term. Even with the cap going up to $82,500,000 this summer. That barely leaves Toronto with $7,900,000 to sign 8 players. And Klingberg wants 8 years $64,000,000 the Leafs can't afford him without moving out some big contracts like Nylander or Marner.

Who said anything about signing him long term?
 

ToDavid

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I'd be all over this if I were Dubas for 2 reasons

#1

Rielly Brodie

Muzzin Klingberg would be an elite top 4.

#2 it keeps him away from Florida or Tampa and if you are tne Leafs you DO NOT want Klingberg in Florida or Tampa

Not particularly interested, at least at the price I’m sure he’ll command. We don’t really need an offensive defenseman, especially on what’s supposed to be our shutdown pair (before Holl apparently forgot how to play hockey). Would rather target a steady, hard hitting RD.
 

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He is exactly what Vancouver needs.
Trading For him makes no sense though, because he’s a UFA.
Just give him a good deal in the off-season
 

Stephen

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Not particularly interested, at least at the price I’m sure he’ll command. We don’t really need an offensive defenseman, especially on what’s supposed to be our shutdown pair (before Holl apparently forgot how to play hockey). Would rather target a steady, hard hitting RD.

I'd be more interested in trading Muzzin for him and then re-signing him to a cheaper contract in and around the $5-6 million range than to have him leave as a UFA in a few months time. Doesn't seem like the best fit.
 

Stephen

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Because the price to acquire him wont be cheap, So you might as well try to sign him long term as well. If you think that Klingberg puts the Leafs over the threshold to make a cup run. It's not happening.

I agree. If the idea was to bring him in you'd want him on the Leafs for more than one run. Going all in every year burns out your assets so ideally he's re-signed before the trade is completed at a comfortable rate. That's the only way it would make sense.
 

jfhabs

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but a franchise Dman? Every Cup winner has one: Hedman, Carlson, Pietro, Letang, Keith, Doughty, Chara... PIT did win one without Letang, but I mean Crosby, Malkin, Kessel made up for that.

Not saying its impossible, but I think its almost just as necessary as 1C.
I don't know, but some probably have a little % of being close to that one day in a perfect scenario. I mean Letang, Carlson, Keith and Chara were all late picks who had a high development curve. I think we have many players with a small chance. Odds are none will end up as good but we never know.
 

amnesiac

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I don't know, but some probably have a little % of being close to that one day in a perfect scenario. I mean Letang, Carlson, Keith and Chara were all late picks who had a high development curve. I think we have many players with a small chance. Odds are none will end up as good but we never know.
for sure its possible to get a diamond in the rough, even Weber was a 2nd rounder. But unfortunately that ship has sailed... anyway, who knows how this team look in the coming years. FOr once they have a chance to tank "well", and be sellers for the next year or 2. I just hope Gorton doesnt continually patch a mediocre team for years like theyve practically been doing since 94. I really want them land Bedard/Michkov, though.
 

Rory

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I'd be more interested in trading Muzzin for him and then re-signing him to a cheaper contract in and around the $5-6 million range than to have him leave as a UFA in a few months time. Doesn't seem like the best fit.
If he would take 5-6 mil Dallas would have already signed him. Hell if he took 7 mil a year Dallas would have done it. But he wants close to 9. Not sure where you think he will take 5-6.
 

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