Rumor: Pagnotta: John Klingberg has requested a trade

[Rory]

I think Dallas holds on trading klingberg. I expect Dallas to be in the mix in a wide open western conference. They will try to sign klingberg in summer, if not, let him walk and let some team overpay

If you would have started that with “I like where our team is at” I would be convinced you are Jim Nill. That sounds like Jim Nill logic.

 

[stl76]

Jeff Marek: "John Klingberg is looking for something in the area ... of 8 years $63 million"

Me:

 

[centipede2233]

If you would have started that with “I like where our team is at” I would be convinced you are Jim Nill. That sounds like Jim Nill logic.

Yes, I said what I think will happen. Not what they should do.

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

Jeff Marek: "John Klingberg is looking for something in the area ... of 8 years $63 million"

Me:

Crazy money

 

[Magic Mittens]

Jeff Marek: "John Klingberg is looking for something in the area ... of 8 years $63 million"

Me:

I agree 100%, but then at the same time we saw some crazy D contracts last offseason, and there’s always some GM who gives out some head scratching deal

so who knows what to expect

 

[BB88]

I don't think they will trade him unless they really fall out of the picture. They are only 3 points behind 8th place and won their last 4

Would be pretty devastating if they wouldn’t end up re-signing him.

 

[LeapOnOver]

He wants a big money, 8 year deal and Dallas has finally learned their lesson (after Benn and Seguin) and won't give it to him.

I don't get the rationale behind this comment. If learning your lesson is going to the Stanley Cup Finals, then the lesson should be to back the goddamn truck up. If I was a Stars fan I'd be absolutely thrilled with the way Benn and Sequin have worked out and been still trying to fill in those last holes to chase that cup. Funny you didn't mention Radulov at all...

 

[Seras]

He's going to get paid by someone

 

[Rogue Leader]

I love Klingberg! Hope for the best for him!

 

[Hockey Dad]

I don't get the rationale behind this comment. If learning your lesson is going to the Stanley Cup Finals, then the lesson should be to back the goddamn truck up. If I was a Stars fan I'd be absolutely thrilled with the way Benn and Sequin have worked out and been still trying to fill in those last holes to chase that cup. Funny you didn't mention Radulov at all...

Obviously you don’t watch the Stars. Benn and Sequin are a shell of themselves. Far from working out. Radulov is not mentioned because he is free after this year and pretty much played to his contract.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I agree 100%, but then at the same time we saw some crazy D contracts last offseason, and there’s always some GM who gives out some head scratching deal

so who knows what to expect

Offensive D man type that is not that strong in his own end. Stars starting him over 60% in the offensive zone and he's among the worse +/- for their entire D group. He's a top 4D in my opinion but comes with flaws. He's not getting $8M AAV. Might get $7M for a team that is desperate to add a top 4D and has the cap space to do it.

Similar to Petry IMO but younger. I think he will get Petry's AAV but maybe a bit higher in AAV and term.

 

[BWJM]

Says every team that can afford him .

Well the Canucks right side is extra special..

A player like Boeser would likely need to be moved if they want to upgrade the RD.

 

[BfantZ]

Well the Canucks right side is extra special..

A player like Boeser would likely need to be moved if they want to upgrade the RD.

Boeser might do it . If the canucks could make a deal now it would be better than waiting for free agency as a lot of teams will be after him .

 

[LeapOnOver]

Obviously you don’t watch the Stars. Benn and Sequin are a shell of themselves. Far from working out. Radulov is not mentioned because he is free after this year and pretty much played to his contract.

So they contributed nothing to reaching the Stanley Cup finals? I'm sure Benn's leadership qualities have evaporated as his body has aged? I may not watch the Stars, but my years of experience watching and participating in hockey, plus some common sense mixed in tells me you are just a passionate fan who underestimates the difficulty of making it to the cup finals.

 

[DieselPig]

So they contributed nothing to reaching the Stanley Cup finals? I'm sure Benn's leadership qualities have evaporated as his body has aged? I may not watch the Stars, but my years of experience watching and participating in hockey, plus some common sense mixed in tells me you are just a passionate fan who underestimates the difficulty of making it to the cup finals.

Benn was good in the playoff run up until the finals. Seguin was awful. I'm sure they're positive influences in the room, but both are absolutely shells of their former selves and will be net negative value to the Stars moving forward unfortunately. Both making way too much money for what they produce on the ice now.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Dallas should 100% trade him.

1. Doesn’t make sense to re sign him to that contract given they aren’t a contender.
2. They should get a very nice package for him at the TDL.

 

[LeapOnOver]

Benn was good in the playoff run up until the finals. Seguin was awful. I'm sure they're positive influences in the room, but both are absolutely shells of their former selves and will be net negative value to the Stars moving forward unfortunately. Both making way too much money for what they produce on the ice now.

That's every all-stars contract at the end of it though. I could see fans being bitter who can't even make the playoffs with those types of contracts but do you think Pens fans are sitting around lamenting signing Malkin to a long contract when he can't stay healthy any more, or the Hawks complaining about Toews, Sharks complaining about Burns. It's par for the course that an all-star is going to be negative value at the end of their career.

 

[JesusNPucks]

That's every all-stars contract at the end of it though. I could see fans being bitter who can't even make the playoffs with those types of contracts but do you think Pens fans are sitting around lamenting signing Malkin to a long contract when he can't stay healthy any more, or the Hawks complaining about Toews, Sharks complaining about Burns. It's par for the course that an all-star is going to be negative value at the end of their career.

That’s a fair response. One thing you might hear from Stars fans, however, is that from day 1 neither player up to their huge, new contracts.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Jeff Marek: "John Klingberg is looking for something in the area ... of 8 years $63 million"

Me:

He will most probably get it. Hamilton got 63 millions for 7 years

 

[stl76]

I agree 100%, but then at the same time we saw some crazy D contracts last offseason, and there’s always some GM who gives out some head scratching deal

so who knows what to expect

Some GM will pay Klingberg a lot of money, that's for sure. He's too talented offensively and like you say the defenseman market has been nuts lately. I'd be mad if my GM signed him to a big money long term deal, but I've also never been a huge fan of his game.

He will most probably get it. Hamilton got 63 millions for 7 years

I would be shocked if Klingberg got Hamilton money. I think he gets closer to $50 mill than $60 mill over 8 years, but who knows. If Klingberg can get a $60+ mill contract, then good for him!

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Well probably a big part of why he wants to get traded is so that he can finish with bigger numbers like his previous best, put up numbers in the playoffs, and then look more worthy of that $60M+ contract than he currently does. Or so he hopes.

 

[LeapOnOver]

That’s a fair response. One thing you might hear from Stars fans, however, is that from day 1 neither player up to their huge, new contracts.

I guess i'm the only one who remembers that time Benn got 4 points on the last game of the season to win the Art Ross and edge out Tavares...but if the Art Ross isn't your bar that's fine. (might have been the Rocket...but point still stands).

Edit: I do admit this may have been before his big contract, but does lend credence to the fact that he earned it. Players usually get paid for past production, not future. That's the weird way contracts work in sports.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Flames could really really use him. Wouldn't have much problem giving up the 2022 1st if they're still in a playoff spot by the deadline. Not sure what else would be interesting for Dallas, or how much more Tre would want to pay.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Jeff Marek: "John Klingberg is looking for something in the area ... of 8 years $63 million"

Me:

Insane demands, all things considered. Morgan Rielly, who's a better player, and younger, just signed for 8 years at $60 million. I'm just using Rielly as an example. Someone will sign Klingberg to a similar deal and absolutely regret it. He's good but he's not good enough to sacrifice that much of the cap over.

 

[glovesave_35]

I guess i'm the only one who remembers that time Benn got 4 points on the last game of the season to win the Art Ross and edge out Tavares...but if the Art Ross isn't your bar that's fine. (might have been the Rocket...but point still stands).

Edit: I do admit this may have been before his big contract, but does lend credence to the fact that he earned it. Players usually get paid for past production, not future. That's the weird way contracts work in sports.

I'm a huge Benn fan and I like Seguin, especially how big that trade was for the Stars. Both of those guys earned their contracts. That doesn't mean that you have to make the same mistake again, though. Frankly, Klingberg may end up playing to his new contract more than Benn or Seguin have, and walking away is probably the right thing for Dallas.

I am a huge Klingberg fan and have been since his rookie year. We hadn't seen a D-man with his skill set since Zubov when he arrived. I hope Klingberg gets big money; I think he still has big point producing ability. I don't think Dallas should be the one to give it to him.