Ottawa 67s 2024-25 Season Thread, Part I

[mianjo]

down 2-1 after 1

 

[mianjo]

down 2-1 after 2

 

[AGranderson]

Anyone else noticed how out of it Horner has been the last few games he’s not a 2L RW unfortunately, end the experiment

 

[mianjo]

2-2

Goal
#34 Filip Ekberg (5) scores. Assists: #11 Henry Mews, #19 Kohyn Eshkawkogan POWER PLAY 3rd 2:12

2-3

 

[Vector Calculus]

They were fine but not good enough. Our PK continues to be laughably, historically bad which does make it tough to win.

 

[mianjo]

67's lose 3-2

Shots on Goal

Teams	1st	2nd	3rd	Total
OTT	7	13	15	35
NB	12	11	6	29

 

[OMG67]

Anyone else noticed how out of it Horner has been the last few games he’s not a 2L RW unfortunately, end the experiment

I was thinking the same thing tonight. But, not just thornier. I was thinking tonight that half the teams seems listless. Seems like Pinelli, Foster, Barlas, and Gerrior have been pushing hard but there doesnt’ seem to be a consistent level of heart from half the team.

 

[Vector Calculus]

I was thinking the same thing tonight. But, not just thornier. I was thinking tonight that half the teams seems listless. Seems like Pinelli, Foster, Barlas, and Gerrior have been pushing hard but there doesnt’ seem to be a consistent level of heart from half the team.

I think Ekberg looks good. Houben is trying things…there is a skill cap there (especially with skating) but you can really see him trying to be what the coaches are asking him to be, and finishing more checks. Amidovski and Kelly were barely on the ice and didn’t do anything much when they were.

 

[OMG67]

I think Ekberg looks good. Houben is trying things…there is a skill cap there (especially with skating) but you can really see him trying to be what the coaches are asking him to be, and finishing more checks. Amidovski and Kelly were barely on the ice and didn’t do anything much when they were.

I always give a straight up pass to first rounders through the first half. So often they are mostly like fish out of water. Then, int he 2nd half, they start to turn it on. I am not worried about Amidovski long term. Kelly on the other hand is almost dead weight now. He was better as a 16 year old than he’s been as an 18 year old.

 

[ecraigs]

If our main complaint is we suffer now from not playing Whitehead enough last season then so be it. I’ll take that negative.

My issues with handling the rookies really have little to do with Whitehead. His experience playing has been very limited, so it's hard to tell, same for Hilton, Yanni, Dietsch et al. My concerns started with Nelson and extend to why rookies like Brady last year and Amidovski this season get the splinter treatment. TBH, only Körbler got any meaningful ice as a rookie last year. This year, it's Ekberg and Eshkawkogan, but they are producing.

Ottawa is a disciplined team that can score well on the PP, but can't kill a penalty to save their lives. We score 1 PP goal a game, but give up 2. Nine games into the year, it's time for the coaches to show up.

Glad to see Sirman wind up with the Charlottetown Potatoes ... er Islanders. Love that Red Shores Complex.

 

[beastintheeast]

I think Horner is 2L RW until they make a decision on Stonehouse and or Korbler gets back.

 

[OMG67]

I think Horner is 2L RW until they make a decision on Stonehouse and or Korbler gets back.

If/when we have moved past the point where we have the goal to compete with the Conference leaders, we then move into the territory of making player development the priority. The lines will be constructed to maximize the ability to develop our younger players. Players like Horner would then become protection devices. It is not like Horner is going to help a young forward get better. I like Horner but that is not his role. So, if his role is to go crash and bang things and step up when things get out of hand and he isn’t doing those things, there is no reason to have him participate in the development of the younger players.

Don’t get it twisted though. Although I think we should be at that point now, I understand why the management and coaches still believe this team can compete at the top of the Conference. They are paid to compete so I want them to keep pushing until the writing is on the wall. I think that point comes for them around December 1.

When that point comes, I think Boyd needs to go to the graduating players and let them know the plan and that is when you give those players an opportunity to either participate in the retool/refocused strategy or see if they’d prefer an opportunity on another team to try to win a Championship.

For those of you that may think next year would be a better year to do a sell off, keep in mind that if Mews ends up traded because of his desire to not be here, we won’t really have anything of value to sell. I like Marrelli but he really isn’t of significant value. Foster as an OA isn’t worth much (2nd x2 + 3rd) and that is if he actually returns. It is not like we will have an opportunity to add a key young player in any deals next year. This year, we have three players that could return very attractive assets (Mews, Pinelli, and Foster).

We will see how the next month goes, but if the next month goes how I think it will, I think our conversations will shift.

 

[sirius67fan]

My issues with handling the rookies really have little to do with Whitehead. His experience playing has been very limited, so it's hard to tell, same for Hilton, Yanni, Dietsch et al. My concerns started with Nelson and extend to why rookies like Brady last year and Amidovski this season get the splinter treatment. TBH, only Körbler got any meaningful ice as a rookie last year. This year, it's Ekberg and Eshkawkogan, but they are producing.

Ottawa is a disciplined team that can score well on the PP, but can't kill a penalty to save their lives. We score 1 PP goal a game, but give up 2. Nine games into the year, it's time for the coaches to show up.

Glad to see Sirman wind up with the Charlottetown Potatoes ... er Islanders. Love that Red Shores Complex.

Yeah agreed great that they found him a place to play! Good character kid.

 

[Hinterland]

Fun fact: 67's lost six straight without Körbler. With Körbler they won 3 out of 4 despite him not scoring a single point.

 

[OMG67]

Fun fact: 67's lost six straight without Körbler. With Körbler they won 3 out of 4 despite him not scoring a single point.

LOL. Fun fact indeed! It could be that or it could be that Dietsch is the reason for all the losses. They haven’t won a game since he joined the team from injury.

 

[mianjo]

67's down 3-2

Goal
#22 Matthew Mayich (2) scores. Assists: #16 Chase Yanni, #18 Jack Dever
2nd 6:20
+/-

Goal
#25 Zach Houben (1) scores. Assists: #3 Josh Brady, #8 Frankie Marrelli
2nd 11:55

 

[mianjo]

67's lose 3-2

 

[beastintheeast]

I am going to ask this instead of ranting, but do we have any coaches on this team who understand defence, accountability, and face-offs? Has DC figured out his lines yet? Also will people now agree that the way they are playing, they are going to be hardpressed not to trade
Mews
Pinelli
Foster.

It just makes sense if we can get a good return that we would not keep any of these guys. Maybe try for a real center or 2 LOL

We are getting lots of shots on net but are losing in all the important areas.

 

[OMG67]

I am going to ask this instead of ranting, but do we have any coaches on this team who understand defence, accountability, and face-offs? Has DC figured out his lines yet? Also will people now agree that the way they are playing, they are going to be hardpressed not to trade
Mews
Pinelli
Foster.

It just makes sense if we can get a good return that we would not keep any of these guys. Maybe try for a real center or 2 LOL

We are getting lots of shots on net but are losing in all the important areas.

I think what we are seeing now is how good of a coach DC really is. He has this team very well prepared. Even without the horses, the games are generally close and the 67S continually outshoot their opponents often by a wide margin. Theya re working for chances but they don’t have the guns up front to take advantage of the chances. It is what it is.

With the exception of a small handful of players that have requested a trade, the 67’s haven’t made a seller move in close to 7 years. I think their last pure seller trade was Peter Stratis to Sudbury at the deadline in 2018. Since then, they have either been forced ot make a move because of numbers or the player requested a trade.
Sept 2018 - Carter Robertson was traded preseason because of the surplus of D-Men.
Sept 2019 - Lucas Peric was traded preseason because of the surplus of OAs
June 2019 - Matt Maggio trade at request
Jan 2022 - Sirrizotti traded because of request
Sept 2022 - Sawyer and Gill-Shane trade because of numbers
Jan 2024 - Ewles traded because of numbers
Sept 2023 - Beck traded on request
July 2024 - Uronen traded because of numbers
August 2024 - Gardiner traded because of request
Plus two draft defected players

These are the most meaningful deals where Ottawa received a meaningful return. There were a few more player moves but the payers were either marginal players or the return was not meaningful. You will notice that only Sirizzotti and Ewles were traded outside the offseason.

Ottawa has participated in Four seasons since 2019 as buyers. Maybe not as heavily as I would have preferred, but they acquired DiPietro, Maksimovich, Chiodo, Gareffa, Groulx, Morrison, Mintyukov, Maillet, Kressler, and Mayer. They traded:

2nd’s x14
3rd’s x16
4th’s x4
5th x2
Afanaseyev

I think when you consider how many draft pick assets they have traded four of the last five seasons, I think overall the team is doing fairly well. They still have a relatively decent picks cabinet. They have a relatively competitive team if not one that is actually winning.

They are likely headed for their first sell off season since they traded away Peter Stratis in January 2018. I am not overly disappointed overall. I think they could have gone a little heavier in one season and not had to trad win back to back seasons but it is what it is.

 

[beastintheeast]

I think what we are seeing now is how good of a coach DC really is. He has this team very well prepared. Even without the horses, the games are generally close and the 67S continually outshoot their opponents often by a wide margin. Theya re working for chances but they don’t have the guns up front to take advantage of the chances. It is what it is.

With the exception of a small handful of players that have requested a trade, the 67’s haven’t made a seller move in close to 7 years. I think their last pure seller trade was Peter Stratis to Sudbury at the deadline in 2018. Since then, they have either been forced ot make a move because of numbers or the player requested a trade.
Sept 2018 - Carter Robertson was traded preseason because of the surplus of D-Men.
Sept 2019 - Lucas Peric was traded preseason because of the surplus of OAs
June 2019 - Matt Maggio trade at request
Jan 2022 - Sirrizotti traded because of request
Sept 2022 - Sawyer and Gill-Shane trade because of numbers
Jan 2024 - Ewles traded because of numbers
Sept 2023 - Beck traded on request
July 2024 - Uronen traded because of numbers
August 2024 - Gardiner traded because of request
Plus two draft defected players

These are the most meaningful deals where Ottawa received a meaningful return. There were a few more player moves but the payers were either marginal players or the return was not meaningful. You will notice that only Sirizzotti and Ewles were traded outside the offseason.

Ottawa has participated in Four seasons since 2019 as buyers. Maybe not as heavily as I would have preferred, but they acquired DiPietro, Maksimovich, Chiodo, Gareffa, Groulx, Morrison, Mintyukov, Maillet, Kressler, and Mayer. They traded:

2nd’s x14
3rd’s x16
4th’s x4
5th x2
Afanaseyev

I think when you consider how many draft pick assets they have traded four of the last five seasons, I think overall the team is doing fairly well. They still have a relatively decent picks cabinet. They have a relatively competitive team if not one that is actually winning.

They are likely headed for their first sell off season since they traded away Peter Stratis in January 2018. I am not overly disappointed overall. I think they could have gone a little heavier in one season and not had to trad win back to back seasons but it is what it is.

You obviously are like me with a lot of freee time LOL

The selling, I think, will be dependent on what they can get for the players. With all the early sales that we saw I think it will be interesting. What are Pinelli Foster and Mews worth this year is the big question. You have a historical idea, but this year may be different depending on how many teams decide to make a run and how many look at the opposition and say pass rebuild.

 

[sirius67fan]

I think what we are seeing now is how good of a coach DC really is. He has this team very well prepared. Even without the horses, the games are generally close and the 67S continually outshoot their opponents often by a wide margin. Theya re working for chances but they don’t have the guns up front to take advantage of the chances. It is what it is.

With the exception of a small handful of players that have requested a trade, the 67’s haven’t made a seller move in close to 7 years. I think their last pure seller trade was Peter Stratis to Sudbury at the deadline in 2018. Since then, they have either been forced ot make a move because of numbers or the player requested a trade.
Sept 2018 - Carter Robertson was traded preseason because of the surplus of D-Men.
Sept 2019 - Lucas Peric was traded preseason because of the surplus of OAs
June 2019 - Matt Maggio trade at request
Jan 2022 - Sirrizotti traded because of request
Sept 2022 - Sawyer and Gill-Shane trade because of numbers
Jan 2024 - Ewles traded because of numbers
Sept 2023 - Beck traded on request
July 2024 - Uronen traded because of numbers
August 2024 - Gardiner traded because of request
Plus two draft defected players

These are the most meaningful deals where Ottawa received a meaningful return. There were a few more player moves but the payers were either marginal players or the return was not meaningful. You will notice that only Sirizzotti and Ewles were traded outside the offseason.

Ottawa has participated in Four seasons since 2019 as buyers. Maybe not as heavily as I would have preferred, but they acquired DiPietro, Maksimovich, Chiodo, Gareffa, Groulx, Morrison, Mintyukov, Maillet, Kressler, and Mayer. They traded:

2nd’s x14
3rd’s x16
4th’s x4
5th x2
Afanaseyev

I think when you consider how many draft pick assets they have traded four of the last five seasons, I think overall the team is doing fairly well. They still have a relatively decent picks cabinet. They have a relatively competitive team if not one that is actually winning.

They are likely headed for their first sell off season since they traded away Peter Stratis in January 2018. I am not overly disappointed overall. I think they could have gone a little heavier in one season and not had to trad win back to back seasons but it is what it is.

I agree with all this. Out of 10 games the only one we were thoroughly outplayed imo was the Brantford one. I think we've lost 4 or 5 by one goal. All of those were winnable games and our record is not as bad as it looks. The important thing is our young players are playing meaningful games and minutes, they're not out of it after one period. Overall I think their record is worse than I thought ( was expecting a 500 team) but they are better than I thought if that makes sense. As for Cameron I do agree he's a good coach and this year he is doing a good job of keeping them competitive and giving the young players icetime ( just would like Amidovsky on the ice more). I think Cameron does a good job of giving his teams a decent floor. What I'm not sure about is if he can optimize a team's ceiling ( when he has the talent available). I've wondered if his system rigidity can stiffle a very talented team...sometimes if you've got the horses you've got to let them run.

 

[Larionov]

Remember the season two years ago when we surprised everyone, including ourselves, by being the number one regular season team in the league? This is like that, except the opposite...

 

[OMG67]

Remember the season two years ago when we surprised everyone, including ourselves, by being the number one regular season team in the league? This is like that, except the opposite...

That would mean you expected the team to be a contender this year!

 

[Vector Calculus]

That would mean you expected the team to be a contender this year!

I think they are playing a little better than I expected and getting worse results than I expected. On balance that’s not a terrible spot to be early as the results should come…but it is a little hard to see where the goals will come from.

 

[OMG67]

I think they are playing a little better than I expected and getting worse results than I expected. On balance that’s not a terrible spot to be early as the results should come…but it is a little hard to see where the goals will come from.

Goals are the problem. Good teams win one goal games. Bad teams lose them. It is a result of lack of scoring. We hit the logo quite a lot. Outside of Pinelli, Foster, Gerrior, and Ekberg, no one is really popping goals. Everyone else is on a pace for under 15.