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What other great moves?
They would be replacing Hayes, Blais, Vrana, and Alexandrov, with Texier, M. Joseph, Holloway, and Faksa. Big improvement.
What other great moves?
Bottom six looks better, that’s true.They would be replacing Hayes, Blais, Vrana, and Alexandrov, with Texier, M. Joseph, Holloway, and Faksa. Big improvement.
Bottom six looks better, that’s true.
Yeah d is definitely hard to get. Nobody wants to give up good d men.Very solid top 6 too with Thomas, Kyrou, Buchnevich, Bolduc, Schenn and Saad. Just need 1 stud 1LD to contend for the division. Not an easy task.
Reading the st louis board they actually think they can make the playoffs by adding these two fringe players at 3x their worth, lol
I’m not super upset about these offer sheets. We’ve used offer sheets in the past (granted we overpaid Dustin Penner).
We have a good team with these two, and we have a good team without these two. Neither of them played a full season with us last year and we did fine.
The usefulness of these players was a hope of finally a step forward but at a reasonable rate of pay. That’s gone and we’re not even sure if they will be able to maintain the momentum of the playoffs.
Does a second and a third suck? Yes but we could use those picks as valuable currency during the deadline and may even end up with rentals who are better than what these two are right now.
Don’t get me wrong, I like both players but not at an inflated rate.
Yeah d is definitely hard to get. Nobody wants to give up good d men.
We were delighted when Nashville traded us Ekholm.
Out of the playoffsThey would be replacing Hayes, Blais, Vrana, and Alexandrov, with Texier, M. Joseph, Holloway, and Faksa. Big improvement.
Ours isn’t strong but Savoie and O’Reilly help.That’s the kind of move the Blues need to happen. Blues have a really strong prospect pool too. Dvorsky and Snuggerud are close. Both look like studs.
Out of the playoffs
It’s not surprising your understanding is so lacking when you can’t even get the facts straight.I don't know how anyone can argue "Perry contract had nothing to do with this". It clearly did. Even if this didn't happen why isn't he getting a low base salary?
I'd easily rather have Holloway than Perry in this team and allocating Perry funds if 1.4 million plus the 1.25 million he's entitled to would have addressed this mess.
Explain. You take the 1.4 to Perry and you give it to Holloway plus the ~1 mil already earmarked for Holloway.
That's also a very real possibility.They can just treat Arvidsson like Mark Stone.
Blues need someone to take a big step. Be it Neighbours, Purenivich, Hofer, or someone else, even Broberg/Holloway if they get one or both of them. Kind of expect the same from what we have seen from the likes of Faulk, Parayko, Leddy, Thomas, Kyrou, Buch, Schenn, etc. over the past 3 seasons. They need something else to get over the hurdle to return to the PO.Well I would probably put them 9-10 in the west, so its not a stretch to think they might make the playoffs. Teams like the Kings/Jets aren’t bulletproof. But I don’t think it will be because of Broberg/Holloway. The west just isn’t that strong.
They would be replacing Hayes, Blais, Vrana, and Alexandrov, with Texier, M. Joseph, Holloway, and Faksa. Big improvement.
Back injuries are actually one of the easier injuries to manipulate because they’re much harder to diagnose. It’s not a coincidence that Stone has a coming and going back injury the first two years that seemed to always be coming and going at the most convenient times.Back injuries are scary. Hard to manage. Not as easy to manipulate via LTIR like a faking a long recovery on a sports hernia surgery. Back pain much harder to manage and treat.
And didn't Arvasson miss the playoffs two years ago against the Oilers so no guarantee he'll play thru injury either.
Along with the other moves and subtractions. Not just with these 2 guys. The Blues were a 92 pt team and easily added 10-15 points with all their moves…. And subtractions
It’s not surprising your understanding is so lacking when you can’t even get the facts straight.
Perry’s cap hit this year is 1.15 not 1.25, and the reason it’s a weird number like 1.15 is because that is exactly the highest amount you can bury in the minors without it counting against the cap. This Perry contract was never going to affect the amount of money they could offer Holloway or anyone else for that matter, it was purely an insurance policy. Do you understand now or is it still too complicated for you?
And also Im sure Perry is fully aware that there was a strong possibility he would be spending at least a portion of his season in Bako given the teams cap situation. If that was a big issue for him then he probably would have taken league min as that would have reduced the chances of him being sent down.
Gagner didn’t seem to mind and I don’t think Perry would either, he’s going to be getting paid a million dollars to play the game he loves in California which I’m pretty sure is where his family is still based so he’s be closer to them during the season and then he gets to come up and join the team for another playoff run. What a terrible fate for a guy at the end of his career.
So you think the blues are going to be a 102-107 point team next year?
I'm calling bs.It is almost as ridiculous as 80% of the Oiler fans on here just 5 months ago calling Broberg a bust. Most team fans overvalue prospects/young players. Most Oiler fans far undervalue them and are all about the what did you do for me last year. That is how e get the majority of fans who called for the Subban for Draisaitl trade, the Karlsson for Draisatil + trade, Bouch trade for peanuts, etc.
I'd hammer the under.100-105
the majority of fans also begged to trade Puljujarvi years ago, called out our terrible drafting too.It is almost as ridiculous as 80% of the Oiler fans on here just 5 months ago calling Broberg a bust. Most team fans overvalue prospects/young players. Most Oiler fans far undervalue them and are all about the what did you do for me last year. That is how e get the majority of fans who called for the Subban for Draisaitl trade, the Karlsson for Draisatil + trade, Bouch trade for peanuts, etc.
100-105