Value of: Offersheet from Edmonton for Lindholm
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Sojourn
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Exactly. I'm not going to pretend I know his thoughts on the matter. But it's a different GM, with different opinions, and who has had different experiences. Personally, I think it benefits Chiarelli to be patient. He gets a better read on the team he has, and he can adjust accordingly, and it doesn't potentially cost him four 1st round picks. That's a huge loss of assets, even if you're hoping to make the playoffs all four years.
Sojourn
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And Lindholm signs that, why? He may get less salary per year from Anaheim, but he will undoubtedly get more money overall. Remember that the player actually has to sign the offer sheet. This isn't going to entice him.
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After the Preds matched on Weber, I sort of viewed the RFA Offer Sheet market pretty much dead. In retrospect, give the talent the Flyers would have lost in those 4 1st rounders, most Flyers fans are glad the Preds matched. I suspect that if Edmonton offered enough to prevent the Ducks from matching (the 4 1st level), they too would regret the move in a few years.
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After Burke not matching Edmontons offer. Nothing surprises me anymore even though it was Penner? Edmonton on the deal always left a sour taste in my mouth regardless of changing GM
JetsHomer
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Because then to retain his rights his team will be forced to qualify him for at least 7m or he would become a free agent. He would make more money signing the offer sheet, barring a career ending injury
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For argument's sake you dont think Lindholm is going to sign a 2 yr 7M offersheet?
He burns none of his UFA years and makes a good chunk... If ANA is looking at locking him up at 6M then he can go for the smaller deal and then sign a 8 yr contract afterwards.
You make the most when you are burning UFA years. On a 2 yr deal Lindholm would hardly command 4M per. See Subban's bridge deal.
Zegs2sendhelp
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He wants security, likely years and nmc or something is much more important to him.
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Sojourn
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I'm not seeing it. I think a player Lindholm's age would much rather sign a longer term contract, that would secure him for longer. Injuries are part of the game, and a player who had to deal with a concussion that kept him out for a fair bit of time probably understands that as well as anyone.
Lindholm knows he's going to get a good contract from Anaheim. He knows they want him there long-term. Security comes in many forms. He has no reason to sign that contract.
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Nobody knows what Lindholm wants, or what he will accept so it's kind of pointless speculating when there is no indication of what it will take to sign him
Sojourn
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No, I don't. Lindholm isn't Dustin Penner. He doesn't need to try to sell himself high, and get as much value as possible.
Hictor Vedman*
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I wonder if Anaheim would happily match and get four first round picks of Edmonton. First round picks that are notoriously pretty magical.
Then again, with the changes they've made, and the potential addition of Lindholm, there's a decent chance not even Edmonton can **** up with that nucleus.
Then again, with the changes they've made, and the potential addition of Lindholm, there's a decent chance not even Edmonton can **** up with that nucleus.
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Zegs2sendhelp
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Personally I think we are still a competitive team without lindholm, maybe not a contender buy wed still have a strong young defense, and then you are going to give us 2 in first round for next 4 years.... with guys like larsson Theodore montour almost ready to move into our defense. That is almost enticing to just let him walk... we do pretty well in the 1st round in general early or late.
Zegs2sendhelp
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I would love for the oilers to put in an offer sheet and get Lindholm!
Oilers would be so screwed when McDavids contract expires. There is going to be a bidding war. I am sure the Oilers will resign him but its gonna cost them huge amounts in trades to be able to sign him. John Scott for Drai, Wideman for Pull an RV.
Offer sheets are for dicks. They sound cool and all when your team isn't affected. When teams come calling for McDavid just remember, its dick moves like this that will cost you McDavid!
Oilers would be so screwed when McDavids contract expires. There is going to be a bidding war. I am sure the Oilers will resign him but its gonna cost them huge amounts in trades to be able to sign him. John Scott for Drai, Wideman for Pull an RV.
Offer sheets are for dicks. They sound cool and all when your team isn't affected. When teams come calling for McDavid just remember, its dick moves like this that will cost you McDavid!
Zegs2sendhelp
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Haha ya... why would anyone not match if they get the picks for matching you keep player and get 4 1sts.... no one would ever make an offer sheet
Zegs2sendhelp
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They won't let mcdavid get to that point it's the other players around him that would be tough
So many people here were complaining about these new FA deals precluding a future lockout. This idea would only increase the potential for a lockout. Signing a player for two years who just finished his ELC at $7M is an absolutely awful idea. Actually it's beyond awful. I'd be pissed at any team who offered that, and not because it could mean losing Lindholm.
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Injuries happen. A lot. 14M + mystery box vs a guaranteed (for example) 6x7=42M... Most players take the guaranteed extra 28M. He's not terribly likely to make much (if any) more than 7 regardless, he's not shown the offensive game to indicate he's going to be in the 9+ category, so he's gambling that an extra 7M (an extra million per year) is worth possibly losing 28M.
Any agent worth being paid tells him to take the guaranteed money. The only way this gets any traction is if Anaheim is insistent on giving him 3.5 or something along those lines on a bridge deal, and even then Lindholm most likely tells them about the offer first.
Lindholm has also publicly said he wants security. That means term.
oStealthKiller*
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Offer sheet him, future offer sheets aren't a worry.
Mcd 12 million
Larsson 4.1
Klef 4.1
Sekera 5.5
LINDHOLM 8
total 33.7 for your entire top 4 and #1 generational centre
Lucic 6
Ebs 6
Nuge 6
Drai 7.5
Pulju 7.5
Talbot 4.1(?)
Total 37ish million
Total together is 70 million, with a cap projected at 77 million ish by the time mcd signs, we have our entire top 6, top 4, and #1g signed. Obviously not ideal to only have 7ish million for the rest of the roster, but I imagine it would be easy to move ebs/nuge. Add in the fact that I overestimated(imo) on some of the contracts, and that ebs contract expires when pulju needs an extension, I think offer sheeting lindholm is one of the smartest things we can do.
Mcd 12 million
Larsson 4.1
Klef 4.1
Sekera 5.5
LINDHOLM 8
total 33.7 for your entire top 4 and #1 generational centre
Lucic 6
Ebs 6
Nuge 6
Drai 7.5
Pulju 7.5
Talbot 4.1(?)
Total 37ish million
Total together is 70 million, with a cap projected at 77 million ish by the time mcd signs, we have our entire top 6, top 4, and #1g signed. Obviously not ideal to only have 7ish million for the rest of the roster, but I imagine it would be easy to move ebs/nuge. Add in the fact that I overestimated(imo) on some of the contracts, and that ebs contract expires when pulju needs an extension, I think offer sheeting lindholm is one of the smartest things we can do.
