Zegs2sendhelp
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If you offer sheet lindholm it's unlikely you can keep drai when he's contract is due, so why not start there and save your 4 1sts
Value of: Offersheet from Edmonton for Lindholm
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If you offer sheet lindholm it's unlikely you can keep drai when he's contract is due, so why not start there and save your 4 1sts
s7ark
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We could probably keep Drai. We might have to move out RNH or Ebs but we could keep Drai. Assuming he proves himself worthy of a big number deal. We also have Pouliot and Fayne taking up 7.6M
I'd prefer to give up the 1sts and keep the players. i want to improve now and 1sts in later years don't help with that.
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Yea but you have people that will need raises in time to cover that 7.6 also it would make a really complicated few years for the oil
eternalbedhead
Let's not rebuild and say we did
We have Bieksa and Stoner for just under that amount and every Ducks fan has been clamoring for them to go for quite some time now. Just because you have dead weight on your cap doesn't mean you can discount that dead weight when evaluating your contract situation.
s7ark
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That 7.6 isn't all the cap space we have to work with.
Moving a person like RNH or Eberle shouldn't be too difficult. Fayne comes off the book when McDavid needs a raise. Teams(including the Ducks) were showing interest in Pouliot last season before he got hurt before the deadline. And the cap will probably keep going up.
I think the Oilers can make it work.
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If you could even get him to sign it. One of the things he's repeated in his interviews is wanting security- I doubt he would see a 1 year contract as giving him that
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McDavid is going to make at least 8 mil next contract, and probably closee to 10,that's going to take a chunk of your cap drai will likely be around 5+ range.... I'm not saying you can't do it but it's going to start getting tought, idk that it would be worth the 4 1sts but then again you guys don't draft dmen very well do maybe it's not so bad..
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I think drai + klef/nurse is likely where convoy starts, if they don't like that send the offer sheet.
Draisaitl or Klefbom and 2017 1st unprotected
I'd offer 6.7 million over 7 years
I doubt they would even consider it.Because the Ducks wouldn't agree to that?
Take out Lindholm and Anaheim won't be as good. One less team to worry about for the playoffs. I don't mind giving Anaheim 4 late 1sts
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Yea I think that's a safer bet to just try to slightly over pay for him and then you can possibly keep his contract around the late 5s early 6 range, which will help later on when your stars need new contracts. And you can keep your 1sts to bring in young players with potential. If you just want to win a cup and then possibly suck again cause contract issues, Os lindholm might work, if you want to be a strong team for a while might want to over pay at trade but get him on a lower contract and build around him and mcdavid.
Lindholm on oilers defense would make that defense pretty amazing.
Lindholm sekera larsson klef and nurse up and coming is a nice core
eternalbedhead
Let's not rebuild and say we did
The Canadian dollar isn't doing too well right now so the cap going up is no sure thing.
I was merely pressing towards your "everything will be alright" attitude, which doesn't tend to reward its followers very often.
Lastly, "I think" is not going to be good enough. Let's say the Oilers get Lindholm under contract for 7 years at 8M per. Now, in a couple years, Connor McDavid will be up for contract. You guys will have Fayne off the books by that point along with some other depth players, but guys like Draisaitl and Nurse will be up for renewal, and with Hall just recently being traded it's hard to tell how keen Chiarelli is about moving another forward. How much will McDavid want? He was hurt for half the year but when he played he was dominant. A PPG season, even if it wasn't 50 games in length, is a great achievement for a 18-19 year old, especially in the dead puck era we're in right now. If he continues to trend up he'll have the leverage to ask for at the very least 8 million coming off his ELC. Crosby got 8.7 off his ELC and the market wasn't quite as inflated back then. There's not going to be an "oopsie" if you do offer Lindholm a massive contract that we can't match, only to be unable to sign McDavid later without trading a core piece away.
I was joking but I doubt the first two would be late. I know it's fun that you guys are adding real roster players now but I still think the culture needs some adjusting there. I think at best for the next two years you guys are outside the playoff bubble. But like I said I was joking, it was a jest of a dig at the oilers. I wouldn't want to give Hampus up for that. Especially when the team hasn't officially gone full rebuild yet.
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Eh without lindholm our cap situation kinda fixes it self we can sign some wingersort etc and we have 2 firsts every year for next 4 years... our defense would still be solid.
Fowler Vatanen despres manson Theodore montour larsson with Gibson in goal would keep us competitI've and we draft fairly well even with later picks.
eternalbedhead
Let's not rebuild and say we did
There's no true #1 there though. Lindholm is the closest thing to a 1D that we have right now and he's by far our best defensive player in terms of ceiling.
s7ark
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Given 2 more years to accomplish this, because that is when McDavid and Nurse need new contracts.
McDavid @8 + Lindholm @ 7.5 + Drai @ 5 + Nurse @ 3(bridge) = 23M
Currently the Oilers have 6.9 in cap space + Ferrence @ 3.25 + Fayne@ 3.65 + Pouliot @ 4 + Eberle/Nuge @6 = 23.8M. And if the cap goes up a few million a season as it traditionally has, that gives more room.
Maybe they could compromise, Edmonton agrees not to OS Lindholm, Anaheim agrees to trade Fowler to them for a package of cap clearing picks. My understanding is they want a LW, so Pouliot + Reinhart for Fowler + Stoner, perhaps.
Anaheim gets a LW, a defensive prospect, and saves about $3 million dollars with this deal, and can sign Lindholm + Rackell without too much fuss I would imagine.
Anaheim gets a LW, a defensive prospect, and saves about $3 million dollars with this deal, and can sign Lindholm + Rackell without too much fuss I would imagine.
