Confirmed Trade: [NYR/BOS]Nick Holden for Rob O'Gara + 2018 3rd round pick

[ZacUSNYR]

Nick Holden, a guy everyone crapped on, turned out to be a good Ranger. Best of luck in Boston Nick.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

Happy to have Holden off the team and even happier for the return. He played great for some stretches last year, scored a few timely goals. So long as you keep him from being over utilized he'll be a serviceable bottom pair d man. Decent depth pick-up for the Bs.

Lots of Rangers fans are bursting with joy because AV has a tendency to misuse and over use players like Holden

Yeah I don't see why theres laughter here. Its a 3rd round pick and what is likely a career AHLer for some depth insurance.

Slight overpayment but its the TDL, you have to.

 

[Dijock94]

Holden is an extremely solid 5-6 who can play both sides.

 

[Gee Wally]

I'm not a fan of the deal but for me it essentially breaks down to a late 3rd rounder for a veteran bottom pairing playoff insurance.
Last year the Bruins ran out of D.

O'Gara ? no real future here with the kids that are coming along. His max upside , which I doubt he hits, is Hal Gill. I'd more likely see him shuttle between leagues until he hangs em up.

 

[Cmac66]

Girardi on the top pairing in AV's ridiculous stupid system is a lot different than Girardi getting 3rd pairing minutes on the best team in the league.

Most of us saw Girardi thriving with Tampa as soon as he signed there. Just like Gaborik in LA, Boyle and Stralman in TB and Haggy in Pitt.

Wasn't a dig at you and only highlights a small minority of your fan base. Getting a 3rd for holden is good business by the rangers. Puts it into perspective when you get that for holden then what you would want for Mcdonagh.

 

[Jimbo9966]

I would never evaluate a player that played for the Rangers, they all seem to under achieve there. Holden is gonna do just fine in beantown.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Don't Rangers fans seem to say that about many of their dmen over the years?

No, McDonagh, Stralman and Yandle were fine.

Staal has been atrocious, even with less minutes this year. Girardi was a black hole that couldn't handle top pairing minutes and is terrible with the puck. Holden helped cost the Rangers that series against Ottawa.

 

[Fireonk]

Good trade for both teams. Holden is definitely good to have as a bottom pairing/depth defender and that's certainly worth a 3rd rounder and a guy who likely wont have an NHL career for a team that's going for it.

 

[Vitto79]

3rd is nice , bonus on this o gara kid if he becomes a 6

 

[EpicDing]

No, McDonagh, Stralman and Yandle were fine.

Staal has been atrocious, even with less minutes this year. Girardi was a black hole that couldn't handle top pairing minutes and is terrible with the puck. Holden helped cost the Rangers that series against Ottawa.

Please, Staal is a solid bottom 4 dman this year, and was great before the eye injury/concussions. Just a bit overpaid.

 

[veganbruin]

Woof. Sweeney must have liked Holden because that is a lot to give up for a player that will only play if there are injuries. NYR fans you got a nice piece. O'Gara is pretty polished, good skating, defensive Dman with more upside to give. He's like Brandon Carlo with a little less skill and skating.

 

[God King Fudge]

some stats on Holden. Not horrible

Must be incorrect. I've been led to believe he's the worst dman of all time?

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Aww

 

[Montecristo]

If I’ve learned anything about sweeney, he doesn’t care one bit about 3rd round picks

 

[Flat Ronnie]

Does this take them out of the McD sweepstakes?

 

[KingsFan7824]

Once upon a time, Chris Campoli was traded for a 1st at the deadline. I don't know what fair value is for depth defensemen.

Depends on the year.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

okay i guess

idk why people on the 1st page acted like Boston was fleeced here.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Yeah I don't see why theres laughter here. Its a 3rd round pick and what is likely a career AHLer for some depth insurance.

Slight overpayment but its the TDL, you have to.

Yup.

This is a nothing deal.

you get depth, we get a project and another dart to throw at the wall. The likelihood of this deal meaning anything to either team is <5%

 

[kdog82]

A 3rd round pick is an over payment? Come back here in 5 years from now and let me know how that pick is working out.

O'Gara would never play in Boston again as the Bruins LHD depth chart is pretty solid. Although junk in last years playoffs, Holden at least has playoff experience and could come in handy as a #6-7 dman. Last year the Bruins were decimated with injuries and called up guys like Tommy Cross ffs. Good move imo by Sweeney.

 

[Made Dan]

Don't get the overreaction. This is the TDL. Players always go for slightly higher than they're worth. Holden is serviceable. Most appealing part of him is that he can play both sides.

 

[le_sean]

A 3rd round pick is an over payment? Come back here in 5 years from now and let me know how that pick is working out.

O'Gara would never play in Boston again as the Bruins LHD depth chart is pretty solid. Although junk in last years playoffs, Holden at least has playoff experience and could come in handy as a #6-7 dman. Last year the Bruins were decimated with injuries and called up guys like Tommy Cross ffs. Good move imo by Sweeney.

To be fair, injuries in the playoffs also forced your team to call-up McAvoy.

“Holy shit, we had a #1D this whole time”

 

[JaeTM]

It is funny how fans react after a trade has gone down and reading posts prior to it.

Anyways, Holden isn't as bad as some fans are making him out to be. He's definitely prone to some giveaways in his own zone, but a 3rd for him is fair and Boston didn't give up that much for him. Definitely not a fleecing.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Must be incorrect. I've been led to believe he's the worst dman of all time?

No. Not incorrect. Fans just develop irrational hatred for players so they can assign blame in a situation that they are having trouble accepting.

Holden, while he did have some rough patches, overall he was a fine defenseman. He will do well in Boston.

 

[eco's bones]

Yeah, I don't get that the Bruins were robbed here. Holden on your bottom pair with a decent partner should be okay. Playing on your top pair he's kind of awful. I think he's better off left on the left side too...and if the left is what the Bruins are trying to shore up it makes sense. I'm not sure I care for O'Gara besides his Irish name. He doesn't seem to be that great a prospect. The third will be at the bottom end of the round--late 80's-early 90's. It's not shit but it's nothing spectacular either. But all in all I'm good with this as a Rangers fan. Holden had a much better regular season last year. He and Staal were godawful terrible as a pair in the playoffs though. I remember Holden getting scratched even. He'll be UFA--we're going nowhere this year--getting something back for him makes sense for us.

 

[Shootertooter]

I don't get how people can say the bruins lost this trade when that third round is going to be almost a 4th. This just adds depth for the bruins cup run.

They are saying that because Ranger fans would have been happy with a 7th or lunch at MickeyD's for Holden.

He is serviceable. I don't think he is a reason to be out of the McD sweepstakes like some are saying.