Confirmed Trade: [NYR/BOS]Nick Holden for Rob O'Gara + 2018 3rd round pick

[wintersej]

For Boston, Holden becomes 7th or 8th D. Can play both sides. Postma upgrade.

 

[JT Kreider]

Holden is so underrated.

He’s a serviceable NHL Dmen that can play both sides, and has experience.

Boston wasn’t fleeced. It’s a good trade for both teams.

Underrated? Staal-Holden was the death of us in last years playoffs. The most atrocious play I've ever seen from two players.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

O'Gara is probably the better player (especially considering age).

No chance Holden bumps McQuaid or Miller out of #7 and probably struggles to beat Postma out of #8.

Not a good one from Dealer Donny

 

[WhoTagz]

3rd and a prospect some1 call the cops , highway robbery

 

[Lays]

I have a feeling Holden does really well to start with the Bruins and then when the playoffs roll around everyone turns on him. When he started last year with the Rangers he looked like a 3D the first 2 months in and had 34 points.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Really good trade for NY I think, Ogara could be a good 5-6 guy and the 3rd is always good when you're about to rebuild


Gotta think Sweeney's pro scouts see something in Holden, he had a decent year last year for the price and NY overall has been bad this year so perhaps he can provide good depth in lieu of McQuaid - Miller's injury could be one of those long term nagging things when they know they'll need more depth going into this crazy stretch of games for the team

 

[burstnbloom]

O'Gara is a big LHD (6'4") who skates really well for his size. He doesn't have much offensive upside and his physical game is inconsistent but I think he's likely a bottom pair D long term. He's likely behind 5 or 6 other prospects with higher upside on the Bruins and he's an RFA this year so it makes sense to move him. Also, he's already 24 and will be 25 in July so calling him a "prospect" is a bit of a stretch.

Holden is not a very good player and these assets are pretty fungible, so my reaction is mostly "meh."

 

[wintersej]

O'Gara is probably the better player (especially considering age).

No chance Holden bumps McQuaid or Miller out of #7 and probably struggles to beat Postma out of #8.

Not a good one from Dealer Donny

He is way better than Postma. And he can play both sides. He is the Gryzleck insurance.

 

[The Nuge]

Probably looked at HockeyDB and thought he got a steal lol.

That actually wouldn’t surprise me. IIRC, Tambo was looking at the NHL stats page to figure out who was a good faceoff guy back when they picked up Smithson at the 2013 deadline

 

[JT Kreider]

whats so good about o'gara and bad about holden

Bad about Holden? Go back and watch the highlights from any loss in last years playoffs and Holdens horrific play is stapled all over it.

 

[blood gin]

ultimately time will tell as cliche as it may be, but a 3rd and a player for Holden is pretty darn good.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

O'Gara is big and can move well for a big guy. No physicality. Might as well not go past his own blue line. Less than zero offense and not great puck mover. He can play both sides. Upside of a Hal Gill type career.

So a non-physical version of Hall Gill? Sounds like a career AHLer to me

 

[Lays]

I think most Ranger fans are just happy that Holden is gone and off the top pairing so they got too excited. We didn't fleece Boston, it's a late 3rd and O' Gara who has 6/7D potential in him
I'm still really happy with the trade though

 

[Matt Rentfree]

This isn't a fleecing. Holden was expected to eat minutes he had no business trying to eat on the Rangers. He's a solid bottom pair D man. A 3rd and an AHL D is a fair trade.

 

[wintersej]

So a non-physical version of Hall Gill? Sounds like a career AHLer to me

I mean in todays game a lot of big guys can defend with their reach.

But, yeah, I think the 3rd is the more valuable piece.

 

[God King Fudge]

I don't watch Rangers games, so I can't speak with my own eyes on Holden, but people absolutely CRUSHED Yzerman when he signed Girardi and Girardi has been really good for TB. Not $3M good, but not nearly the dumpster fire that Rangers fans couldn't wait to claim he was.

I have a feeling a lot of guys were being used above their abilities in NY.

 

[Shootertooter]

I don't even care who O'Gara is, the fact that Rangers got a 3rd for Holden, who cost them a 4th a few seasons ago.....is outstanding.

Now........Holden is probably a pretty decent 3rd pairing guy when deployed when sheltered and not 15+ minutes a game. Here in NY, AV used him on the 1st line often and that exposed a multitude of his suckiness.

But this just goes to show people that we, here on this forum, are only guessing as to what GM's are thinking and that most of us really have no idea.

 

[Rebels57]

Why does Boston even need Holden?

 

[BBB24]

O'Gara is probably the better player (especially considering age).

No chance Holden bumps McQuaid or Miller out of #7 and probably struggles to beat Postma out of #8.

Not a good one from Dealer Donny

Yes that’s why OGara is still in Providence, due to his tremendous up side, lol.

 

[DJB]

Doubt it but could see this as a small win win for both teams

Your sarcasm meter is broken lol

 

[SML2]

I cannot believe that people can talk this bad about Holden but somehow ADA is playing great. Bruins fans you'll be fine. He's not going to need to play a ton. A solid depth move and if you have injuries he can slot up a little bit in the lineup.

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

Seems a bit high for Holden...

 

[JT Kreider]

I don't watch Rangers games, so I can't speak with my own eyes on Holden, but people absolutely CRUSHED Yzerman when he signed Girardi and Girardi has been really good for TB. Not $3M good, but not nearly the dumpster fire that Rangers fans couldn't wait to claim he was.

I have a feeling a lot of guys were being used above their abilities in NY.

I said it was a good move for the Lightning. Girardi showed signs of life in last years playoff. And the biggest problem was AV's massive overuse of Girardi, all of the venom spit towards G was misdirected.

 

[Agalloch]

Seems a bit high for Holden...

Well Kempny was traded for a 3rd round pick...

 

[MattySnipes]

Not a bad deal for either team. Bruins need some depth on D since they're preparing for playoffs. They're good on RD, but need someone on LD. Holden will be used on the 3rd pair as opposed to the 1st pair when he was on the Rangers.

Bruins have a lot of games coming up in March without much rest, gotta think they will rest some of their young guns here and there or worst-case as a potential injury replacement. Better to be prepared. Rangers get a few good pieces to start their rebuild.