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Kalopsia said:
It’s the baseball equivalent of using harsher prison sentences to try to deter drug use. If you want to change the fact that a significant portion of the league is tanking in any given season, you’ll need to make systemic changes to how the league is run. They need a salary cap and an international draft so that teams without super deep pockets don’t need to tank for years to build a roster that can compete with the financial giants, and they need a salary minimum so that cheapskate owners can’t use their teams as a a leach to syphon money from the league through revenue sharing. With the lottery rule the teams that want to win are just gonna have to tank longer, and the teams that don’t care about winning will just keep doing what they’re doing.
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What is the most confusing about the baseball draft system is having a separate international and actual baseball draft. How are all of these players just free agents and don’t have to enter the draft.

Teams like the Dodgers with deep pockets and good scouting thrive on the international prospects where it’s pretty much like college football recruiting.
 
Ovechkins Wodka said:
What is the most confusing about the baseball draft system is having a separate international and actual baseball draft. How are all of these players just free agents and don’t have to enter the draft.

Teams like the Dodgers with deep pockets and good scouting thrive on the international prospects where it’s pretty much like college football recruiting.
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They tried to address the international players in the last CBA but couldn't come to an agreement.
 
CapitalsCupReality said:
You think things are hunky dory with the Tour and its players?
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I think there's a lot of shit talk going on just like the last few years, and in the end there will be a compromise with a lot of money involved and some people aren't going to be happy with their share no matter what.
 
There's still a limit to how much teams can spend on international amateurs every year. In the last signing period the Dodgers only had a pool of $4,144,000, whereas the Nats' pool was $5,284,000. So of course good scouting can make a big difference - like with pretty much anything player acquisition related across all of sports - but teams with deep pockets can't really flex that muscle willy nilly.

I do agree fundamentally that it's weird to have two different sets of rules/processes for North American amateurs (draft) vs international ones. Especially once you add in that in the International signing system, the pool money can be traded but cannot in the "normal" draft.

Good article in the LA Times recapping some of the pros, cons, and concerns.
 
CapitalsCupReality said:
You think things are hunky dory with the Tour and its players?
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No, I’m commenting that the messenger here is a guy who seemingly hasn’t been relevant in almost a decade and whose Wikipedia entry says this: Between 2015–16 and 2020-21, Mahan had only one top-10 finish on the PGA Tour and 69 missed cuts.[11] As of April 1st 2021, Mahan had fallen to 1738th in the Official World Golf Ranking.[12]

Not to mention his epic choke at the 2010 Ryder Cup….
 
Ajax1995 said:
No, I’m commenting that the messenger here is a guy who seemingly hasn’t been relevant in almost a decade and whose Wikipedia entry says this: Between 2015–16 and 2020-21, Mahan had only one top-10 finish on the PGA Tour and 69 missed cuts.[11] As of April 1st 2021, Mahan had fallen to 1738th in the Official World Golf Ranking.[12]

Not to mention his epic choke at the 2010 Ryder Cup….
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It’s one guy,….you don’t always have to try to discredit the messenger lol…the point was the players have a monster beef with Monahan…
 
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CapitalsCupReality said:
It’s one guy,….you don’t always have to try to discredit the messenger lol…the point was the players have a monster beef with Monahan…
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The first line of the article is: Hunter Mahan says PGA Tour players are “done with” their commissioner, Jay Monahan.

I didn’t randomly pick one guy out of many here, the person who wrote the piece did.
 
Ajax1995 said:
The first line of the article is: Hunter Mahan says PGA Tour players are “done with” their commissioner, Jay Monahan.

I didn’t randomly pick one guy out of many here, the person who wrote the piece did.
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Ok whatever….don’t respond if it doesn’t interest you. I’d rather talk the larger issue, not your issues with Mahan being quoted.
 
CapitalsCupReality said:
Ok whatever….don’t respond if it doesn’t interest you. I’d rather talk the larger issue, not your issues with Mahan being quoted.
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Again, if Mahan is the 4th out of 5 guys quoted I don’t even mention it. But he is the lead of the article.

If it was your article would you have led with a Mahan quote?

With there being no details whatsoever about how this new entity is actually going to function, I 100% understand some players not being happy at the moment. But I think everyone will wait for everything to ironed out before making any actual decisions..
 
Ajax1995 said:
Again, if Mahan is the 4th out of 5 guys quoted I don’t even mention it. But he is the lead of the article.

If it was your article would you have led with a Mahan quote?

With there being no details whatsoever about how this new entity is actually going to function, I 100% understand some players not being happy at the moment. But I think everyone will wait for everything to ironed out before making any actual decisions..
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It’s not like there haven’t been other player quotes along the same lines….just sharing, I don’t over-dissect things. I will be surprised if Monahan survives this eventually. Maybe Mahan was just around and willing to talk?

g00n said:
I think there's a lot of shit talk going on just like the last few years, and in the end there will be a compromise with a lot of money involved and some people aren't going to be happy with their share no matter what.
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Agree….however I think Jay has lost the confidence of the players and will be replaced at some point as the structure is worked out….same goes for Norman.

Both were too emotionally charged in the events leading up to today…who knows, maybe Norman stays in his LIV world and runs things there and Jay runs the US as is, but it seems like too much ill will between the players and these two Tour leaders.
 
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CapitalsCupReality said:
It’s not like there haven’t been other player quotes along the same lines….just sharing, I don’t over-dissect things. I will be surprised if Monahan survives this eventually. Maybe Mahan was just around and willing to talk?


Agree….however I think Jay has lost the confidence of the players and will be replaced at some point as the structure is worked out….same goes for Norman.

Both were too emotionally charged in the events leading up to today…who knows, maybe Norman stays in his LIV world and runs things there and Jay runs the US as is, but it seems like too much ill will between the players and these two Tour leaders.
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I read that ejecting Norman was part of the negotiation in the original deal. The PGA Tour will never accept a solution with Norman in some kind of controlling or executive position that's anything more than ceremonial, and even then they're not going to want to have to deal with him. He'll be gone, then he'll sue. Again.

JM will be given a chance to see what this all looks like before there's enough grievance to pull the plug, imo.

Congrats to the guy who won the Scottish. I won't spoil in case some are just watching the delayed broadcast today.

But he made me some pocket change. Thanks, bruh
 
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g00n said:
I read that ejecting Norman was part of the negotiation in the original deal. The PGA Tour will never accept a solution with Norman in some kind of controlling or executive position that's anything more than ceremonial, and even then they're not going to want to have to deal with him. He'll be gone, then he'll sue. Again.

JM will be given a chance to see what this all looks like before there's enough grievance to pull the plug, imo.

Congrats to the guy who won the Scottish. I won't spoil in case some are just watching the delayed broadcast today.

But he made me some pocket change. Thanks, bruh
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I would not at all be surprised to see him left to control LIV, if It’s to remain a separate Tour. But I think both will be shown the door after it all shakes out….there’s already enough grievance against Jay.
 
CapitalsCupReality said:
I would not at all be surprised to see him left to control LIV, if It’s to remain a separate Tour. But I think both will be shown the door after it all shakes out….there’s already enough grievance against Jay.
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Greg Norman’s scathing email to PGA Tour unveiled amid news of his pending firing as LIV Golf CEO

Norman, the CEO of LIV Golf, fired an email to PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan in early 2022 advocating for the rights of tour players.
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Greg Norman to be fired as LIV Golf CEO, per PGA Tour Congressional hearings

If the deal between the PGA Tour and the PIF goes through, Greg Norman will not be retained as LIV Golf CEO.
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I doubt he's allowed to have any meaningful role
 
Ridley Simon said:
Congrats to Carlos Alcaraz. Kid is a stud. That was a pretty great battle w Novak.

First loss on centre court in 10yrs! Also broke the Djoker’s string of 14 straight tie-break wins in the majors along the way.

Crazy stuff.
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Hell of a win…one of the longest Finals….
 
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