Predsanddead24
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Sort of off topic but saw this on Twitter and just couldn't not share it.
Nashville Predators Talk - 2024/2025 Season
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Those were the days. The saber tooth blimp dropping free pizza coupons.
Predsanddead24
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Murray got sent back down so I expect Saros is back tomorrow.
Lord help this place if Saros gets injured for a long stretch. I dont think i can handle watching more wedgewood than we need to unless he dramatically improves. Wasnt good in preseason and game 1 was not good
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I remember when it used to malfunction on occasion, sink into the crowd and everyone would pass it around like a crowd surfing drunk at a concert. When it crashed in our section once I grabbed all the coupons it still had in the claw mechanism. Sadly it was just for Taco Bell.
I remember the night it completely died. It deflated and fell near our section (104 then) and we never saw it again. It was no more.
Photosniper89
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Random. Does anyone know when we get this years STH gifts? Got the wife her own seat this year and she keeps asking me about when she can get that jersey. 
Armourboy
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I completely forgot about that thing.
The last time they gave out jerseys my recollection is that they either came in in November OR they came in in October and it took til November to get the name plate stitched on. I think the latter.Random. Does anyone know when we get this years STH gifts? Got the wife her own seat this year and she keeps asking me about when she can get that jersey.
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We, as fans, have to get out of the traditional mindset of how a team is made up. Forsberg is the only talent close to an elite level on this team. We do not have a true first line because we lack the elite talent to do so. Depending on how you want to look at it, we're running two excellent second lines or two so-so first lines. We have a third line which I'm not sure of at the moment because we have no idea of the production we'll get from them. Maybe it turns into a solid third line, maybe it approaches a so-so second line as far as production goes. If it does, even better.
Keeping all of this in mind, while we have greater depth than we've had in years, we don't have those true difference makers in the lineup up front. Because of this, we need more out of the bottom six, which means, this whole, energy line without the production isn't going to cut it. We also have to retrain our brains to think of the fourth line as something different than just a bunch of guys who can play the PK, chip in every now and again and provide "energy". We need more production out of this line.
Consider it like another 3rd line if you will. Guys that can provide a good two way game, provide energy, play the PK and have offensive upside that may land them in the top six as they grow as players. It keeps the wear and tear off the older guys deeper into the season, provides the energy that we need and it gives us young legs in the lineup, which we are currently short on if we're being honest.
I'd rather see a non-traditional 4th line of Pars, ZLH and Ozzie than what we currently have. ZLH and Ozzie have motors on them and if you want to talk about relentless, that's what these guys are. Are they young, sure. Are they green, sure. Do they have more upside than the 3 guys in the lineup, yes. I get wanting to go all in the next couple of years, I really do. At some point though, the org, and I mean Trotz and Brunette, need to trust the young guys more than they do. One thing I hated about Trotz as a coach is he gave a long leash to vets when they screwed up but when the young guys did the same thing, they were found rotting on the end of the bench. I see some similarities with Brunette and I don't know if that was ingrained into him by Trotz or he has a similar style but kids will not grow if you chastize them every time they make a mistake. They'll grip the stick tighter and play that way too, causing more turnovers. While the "fourth" line vets don't make a ton of mistakes, they also don't provide a ton of upside in production.
I see Cup contending teams adding youth to their rosters, why aren't we?
Keeping all of this in mind, while we have greater depth than we've had in years, we don't have those true difference makers in the lineup up front. Because of this, we need more out of the bottom six, which means, this whole, energy line without the production isn't going to cut it. We also have to retrain our brains to think of the fourth line as something different than just a bunch of guys who can play the PK, chip in every now and again and provide "energy". We need more production out of this line.
Consider it like another 3rd line if you will. Guys that can provide a good two way game, provide energy, play the PK and have offensive upside that may land them in the top six as they grow as players. It keeps the wear and tear off the older guys deeper into the season, provides the energy that we need and it gives us young legs in the lineup, which we are currently short on if we're being honest.
I'd rather see a non-traditional 4th line of Pars, ZLH and Ozzie than what we currently have. ZLH and Ozzie have motors on them and if you want to talk about relentless, that's what these guys are. Are they young, sure. Are they green, sure. Do they have more upside than the 3 guys in the lineup, yes. I get wanting to go all in the next couple of years, I really do. At some point though, the org, and I mean Trotz and Brunette, need to trust the young guys more than they do. One thing I hated about Trotz as a coach is he gave a long leash to vets when they screwed up but when the young guys did the same thing, they were found rotting on the end of the bench. I see some similarities with Brunette and I don't know if that was ingrained into him by Trotz or he has a similar style but kids will not grow if you chastize them every time they make a mistake. They'll grip the stick tighter and play that way too, causing more turnovers. While the "fourth" line vets don't make a ton of mistakes, they also don't provide a ton of upside in production.
I see Cup contending teams adding youth to their rosters, why aren't we?
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I’m going to disagree with the framing here. We have 3 of the top 15 goal scorers from last year on our team. Nyquist was near a point per game and O’Reilly had a good season too. We’re a center short but outside of that our top nine doesn’t really have any obvious holes in it. We are relying on older guys not falling off but on paper our offense is not weak at all. Let’s at least give them time to gel before declaring we don’t have a true top line.
I also think it overlooks that Smith-McCarron-Sherwood were actually a scoring at a decent clip down the stretch last year. They need to figure out who to replace Sherwood with and after one game I’m not sold it’s Jankowski but I also don’t think we should discount how good McCarron and Smith were last year. This is coming from someone who was a big hater on those guys previously but I think they actually found their niche quite nicely. They’ve at a minimum earned the chance to keep those roles. I wouldn’t mind seeing L’Hereux get a shot and I suspect he does later in the season if no one cements themselves in that spot. Also while I do kind of like Wiesblatt I don’t really think he’s an NHL player at this point. He still needs to prove it for more than a short stretch in the AHL before I’m giving him a shot. Other than that there isn’t anyone in Milwaukee that I feel is being overcooked at this point. And again this is coming from a longtime complainer about how we’ve handle prospects.
Forsberg is certainly the closest thing to elite forward talent, but Roman Josi is the best player to ever wear gold and blue. Franchise player, not generational but an elite, first ballot HOF
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You answer your own question, it seems. The reason we don't have a 4th line of ZLH, Parssinen, and Oz is that we don't like to play younger players because they might make a mistake. (Yeah, that doesn't make a ton of sense since veterans are human and make mistakes too, and it's not clear how a younger player is "developed" by keeping him on the bench or overcooking in the minors while your veteran leadership is "rubbing off" on other veteran leadership.)
Our top 9, on paper, has plenty of guys who can score, guys who can play two-way, guys who have speed, guys who can create, etc. We've also decided to keep last year's #1 line together and keep the young kids together so they can be left on the bench. As it's the start of something completely new, it might make sense to try to balance lines to find the blends of skills (aka chemistry) that work best for all 9 guys. And maybe we're already there and it will just take small tweaks.
Yeah, it's been two games. Frustrating, but not the end of the world. Hopefully Brunette has a plan for evaluating lines/pairings early in the season and has communicated that with the players. Then after 12-15 games we really know what we have and if needed, somewhere in the middle of the season with some accrued cap space and hopefully the Johansen situation settled, Trotz can add a C and D (and back up G?) to the mix to solidify the roster for the second half.
Armourboy
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Would think after the Lehrner situation in Vegas the RyJo one would be done pretty quick, of course the difference could be that Philly doesn't want to pay money at all and Vegas just wanted the cap space.
Scoresberg
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Yeah, honestly, I'm not too worried about the 0-2 start.
First game, clearly outplayed the Stars. Wedgewood couldn't deliver while we hit multiple posts. The way she goes sometimes.
Second game, for 40 minutes we were by far the better team, again, but got goalied.
First game, clearly outplayed the Stars. Wedgewood couldn't deliver while we hit multiple posts. The way she goes sometimes.
Second game, for 40 minutes we were by far the better team, again, but got goalied.
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Not real worried either, once Stamkos and Marchy settle in and everyone gets more comfortable playing off of each other, the goals will come as will the wins.
I'm not worried about the start yet either. There are some things I raise an eyebrow too though.
I think Skjei has had a tough time adjusting, but it's early. I don't know what the numbers say but he seems to lose coverage a lot in his zone. Carrier does as well but he's not new to the system. Honestly, Carrier has struggled anytime he's not paired with Ekholm, IMHO.
Fabbro looks more aggressive but he's still turning it over at times. His defensive coverage though has been really good.
Tomasino looks like he's playing with way more energy.
I think Skjei has had a tough time adjusting, but it's early. I don't know what the numbers say but he seems to lose coverage a lot in his zone. Carrier does as well but he's not new to the system. Honestly, Carrier has struggled anytime he's not paired with Ekholm, IMHO.
Fabbro looks more aggressive but he's still turning it over at times. His defensive coverage though has been really good.
Tomasino looks like he's playing with way more energy.
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Talk about a lack of patience. Two games in with a number of new players. Let em gel.
It's a practice, it doesn't mean it's going to be game time changes
Predsanddead24
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I missed the last game so maybe it was really that bad but that seems like an extreme reaction.
