Confirmed Signing with Link: [MTL] D Logan Mailloux signs ELC with the Canadiens (3 years, $897.5k AAV)

[23Monahan]

Wow figured they would trade him to the Oilers, would fit in great with that group!

 

[Church Hill]

I don't think what he did warrants all this hate. It was a kid being a kid, teach him the lesson then forgive him

Forgiveness is a forbidden concept on the internet. It's not like he committed an act of violence or theft.

Why should he have his life ruined for something millions of kids do every day?

 

[Phrasing]

He faced the consequences in Sweden. He was suspended by the OHL. He was not allowed to participate in last year's training camp...what other consequences would you bring down on this person (a minor at the time) to punish him further??? Put it in the context of others playing in the NHL who did worse and got nothing!

What has he done since then to deserve an ELC? Even if he MTL wants to give him a contract so they don't lose him, how has he earned anything beyond minimum for what he's done since he's been drafted? I think this is more of an indictment on MTL as an organization as well.

 

[BLNY]

Just for clarification purposes.

(Canada) Criminal Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46)​

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Marginal note publication, etc., of an intimate image without consent

• 162.1 (1) Everyone who knowingly publishes, distributes, transmits, sells, makes available or advertises an intimate image of a person knowing that the person depicted in the image did not give their consent to that conduct, or being reckless as to whether or not that person gave their consent to that conduct, is guilty
  
  • (a) of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years; or
  • (b) of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
• Definition of intimate image
  (2) In this section, intimate image means a visual recording of a person made by any means including a photographic, film or video recording,
  • (a) in which the person is nude, is exposing his or her genital organs or anal region or her breasts or is engaged in explicit sexual activity;
  • (b) in respect of which, at the time of the recording, there were circumstances that gave rise to a reasonable expectation of privacy; and
  • (c) in respect of which the person depicted retains a reasonable expectation of privacy at the time the offence is committed.

So, he could have received a summary conviction - which is $5000 or six months maximum. Not so different from what he received in Sweden.

 

[Jared Dunn]

I don't think what he did warrants all this hate. It was a kid being a kid, teach him the lesson then forgive him

Forgiveness is a forbidden concept on the internet. It's not like he committed an act of violence or theft.

Why should he have his life ruined for something millions of kids do every day?

What in the god damn world is this? Millions of kids are doing this every day? Are you insane?

 

[BLNY]

What has he done since then to deserve an ELC? Even if he MTL wants to give him a contract so they don't lose him, how has he earned anything beyond minimum for what he's done since he's been drafted? I think this is more of an indictment on MTL as an organization as well.

What hasn't he done since to deserve?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

What in the god damn world is this? Millions of kids are doing this every day? Are you insane?

You think millions of kids arent exchanging sexual pictures to eachother and their friends every day? I got news for you lol. Is it the norm? Probably not, but millions is a small number compared to the amount of kids with phones on the internet.

 

[EP to EP back to EP]

I don't understand why a storied and respected organization like Montreal did this. They don't need him and the bad publicity that comes with him. They should have traded his rights. I'm sure there's at least one team in the league that would have jumped at the chance to sign him.

Good publicity if they can turn it into a redemption story.

You think millions of kids arent exchanging sexual pictures to eachother and their friends every day? I got news for you lol. Is it the norm? Probably not, but millions is a small number compared to the amount of kids with phones on the internet.

Adults do this stuff as well, not just kids. A girl at a company I used to work at sent nudes to a guy(also in the company) she liked and he went around showing it to everyone. Both ended up fired over it.

 

[Captain97]

That it wasn't a Canadian court doesn't make it any less legitimate. He was put on a registry. There are all manner of things that are punished differently, from one country to the next. Sweden deemed it suitable. You can let your angst skew it however you want.

Dudn some States/countries the girl could have been charged for Statutory Rape.

What has he done since then to deserve an ELC? Even if he MTL wants to give him a contract so they don't lose him, how has he earned anything beyond minimum for what he's done since he's been drafted? I think this is more of an indictment on MTL as an organization as well.

He has attended counseling, been doing volunteer work, and has been speaking to other young men about how what he did was wrong and why consent is important.

 

[Rubi]

So, he could have received a summary conviction - which is $5000 or six months maximum. Not so different from what he received in Sweden.

or an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years. The $2000 wrist slap was a joke.

 

[Captain97]

What in the god damn world is this? Millions of kids are doing this every day? Are you insane?

Very sadly they are, when I was in high-school locker rooms and Uni this S*** was rampant.

 

[jfhabs]

or an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years. The $2000 wrist slap was a joke.

Getting jail time for that would be a freakin joke too are you kidding me!?!! No way he was going to jail in Canada either.

 

[Captain97]

or an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years. The $2000 wrist slap was a joke.

Yeah Minors don't get sent to Jail for sharing illicit photos. It doesn't happen. That is criminal code for adults minors get different sentencing usually a fine + community service.

Mailloux got a fine fromand did community service later (not legally required, Habs may have not sure on whether he was doing before or after Habs had him do some)

 

[Phrasing]

Dudn some States/countries the girl could have been charged for Statutory Rape.


He has attended counseling, been doing volunteer work, and has been speaking to other young men about how what he did was wrong and why consent is important.

Excuse my irrational anger as a father of two girls who would want more than just volunteering in order to earn a near full value ELC.

 

[Double Dion]

Wow figured they would trade him to the Oilers, would fit in great with that group!

They need to keep some contract spots open for whoever was involved in 2018.

 

[timmeh]

As far as I've been told(from people around the team) the girl didn't even protest against the picture when it happened. However, since the MeToo thing, in Sweden, the judicial system will generally favor the women who's been the victims of such crimes. It was ruled as if there was no verbal consent. Not trying to defend Logan here but maybe he actually does deserve a second chance.

 

[amnesiac]

this thread in a nutshell....

Non Habs fans: Burn him at the stake

Habs fans: deserves a second chance

 

[Double Dion]

this thread in a nutshell....

Non Habs fans: Burn him at the stake

Habs fans: deserves a second chance

I hate the Habs. He was a minor. The Habs shouldn't have drafted him. The kid does deserve a second chance.

 

[Jared Dunn]

You think millions of kids arent exchanging sexual pictures to eachother and their friends every day? I got news for you lol. Is it the norm? Probably not, but millions is a small number compared to the amount of kids with phones on the internet.

Sexual pictures they themselves took and were a part of? Nah, calling BS that it's happening frequently. I am not even a decade removed from high school, this was absolutely not common place when I was in high school and kids are getting more and more sensitive to this type of stuff, not the opposite.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Very sadly they are, when I was in high-school locker rooms and Uni this S*** was rampant.

I'm betting I'm a lot closer to high school age than most people on this site and unless Whitby, Ontario - arguably the hockey douche capital of Canada - was a safe haven from this kind of behaviour I do not think it's nearly as rampant as its being made out to be.

 

[Church Hill]

What in the god damn world is this? Millions of kids are doing this every day? Are you insane?

For sexting:
"Estimates by researchers start at a low of 20 percent of teens and reach higher than 60 percent in some studies"

The only difference here is he "shared the picture with friends without her consent". Going to go ahead and assume a huge chunk of the sexters have done the same. Big woop.

 

[Jared Dunn]

For sexting:
"Estimates by researchers start at a low of 20 percent of teens and reach higher than 60 percent in some studies"

The only difference here is he "shared the picture with friends without her consent". Going to go ahead and assume a huge chunk of the sexters have done the same. Big woop.

Ah so you're conflating what he did with just sexting in general which casts an incredibly wide net. Teens sexting =/= teens sharing nudes without consent.

 

[Moose Head]

Didn’t like the pick at all and wished the habs had just gone with the next best dman on their list. That’s on Bergiven.

That said, he’s talented and is under contract to the habs and I like that. I won’t lie. Habs need talent on their right side.

But I’m also a human with a daughter and granddaughter and his conduct sickens me. I’d like him to compensate this young lady financially before supporting him being a member of the habs long term.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

You can dress it up and justify the signing all you want. The bottom line is its a bad look for the Montreal organization and they don't need it. And I'm sure every parent of every young girl that's been wronged in the same type of situation would agree.

Realistically, the fanbase as a whole, both nhl and Habs won't care.

Chicago practically figure skated away w nothing for example.

Idk if his crime should've been career ending but I know I would've preferred of it was.

But that doesn't mean I'm right. People get second chances with waaay worse. It feels like he didn't really get alllll of the deserved consequences of some kind tho. He got some obviously. Hopefully he ends up doing a lot of good to make up for his violation

 

[Rubi]

this thread in a nutshell....

Non Habs fans: Burn him at the stake

Habs fans: deserves a second chance

Or...

Five Habs fans posting here: He paid his $2000 fine and did some community service. He paid his debt and he deserves to get a $2.775M contract a year after being rightfully drafted.

Everyone else: Habs shouldn't have drafted him in the first place and now giving him all that money a year later just makes it worse. It seems like if you can play good hockey all transgressions against women are forgiven because boys will be boys after all.