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[Church Hill]

Ah so you're conflating what he did with just sexting in general which casts an incredibly wide net. Teens sexting =/= teens sharing nudes without consent.

You're wrong, I'm not conflating. Even if just 1 in 10 kids shared their sexts with their friends, that's still hundreds of thousands of kids. Do you really think fewer than 1 in 10 shared? Fewer than 1 in 100? Still thousands and thousands each year.

 

[Canadienna]

Or...
Habs fans: He paid his $2000 fine and did some community service. He paid his debt and he deserves to get a $2.775M contract a year after being rightfully drafted.

Everyone else: Habs shouldn't have drafted him in the first place and now giving him all that money a year later just makes it worse. It seems like if you can play good hockey all transgressions against women are forgiven. Boys will be boys after all.

This might be your world view but it's not reality.

 

[Jared Dunn]

You're wrong, I'm not conflating. Even if just 1 in 10 kids shared their sexts with their friends, that's still hundreds of thousands of kids. Do you really think fewer than 1 in 10 shared? Fewer than 1 in 100? Still thousands and thousands each year.

So not millions every day, the drastic exaggeration I contended to begin with. It also sounds like you're actively reading the Wikipedia page for sexting to learn about this on the fly

Again, sexting doesn't necessarily mean photos/videos, and I'm extremely confident a MINOR percentage of these instances are people filming and sharing photos/videos without consent

 

[Church Hill]

So not millions every day, the drastic exaggeration I contended to begin with. It also sounds like you're actively reading the Wikipedia page for sexting to learn about this on the fly

Yes, I googled the statistics. Data is something you may want to add to your anecdotes about your dry high school experience

 

[Jared Dunn]

Yes, I googled the statistics. Data is something you may want to add to your anecdotes about your dry high school experience

Congrats on learning how to google it's impressive for someone so out of touch. Throwing a vague statistic out like it proves your ridiculous point, got me!

 

[Captain97]

Spread child pornography (recorded and spread video of oral sex with minor). He's a convicted sex offender in Sweden.

The sex was consensual but the recording and distribution was not.

The girl wasn't a minor he was. Still wrong but please be informed before you provide explanations

 

[beowulf]

Or...
Habs fans: He paid his $2000 fine and did some community service. He paid his debt and he deserves to get a $2.775M contract a year after being rightfully drafted.

Everyone else: Habs shouldn't have drafted him in the first place and now giving him all that money a year later just makes it worse. It seems like if you can play good hockey all transgressions against women are forgiven. Boys will be boys after all.

Not exactly. A lot of Habs, including myself, were not happy with the pick and go look back at the threads at the time showing that dissatisfaction.

That being said I believe in second chance and rehabilitation. If he has followed everything as far as taking course on the subject and understands what he did was wrong and why then I believe he should get a second chance. This is sadly something that happens, especially with youngsters, these days, likely hundreds of times a day around the world but you don't hear about it as they are not in the spotlight like a hockey player.

Social justice can be powerful but we cannot let ourselves become a world without rehabilitation and second chances, especially when it is something like this when far greater crimes are committed all the time.

 

[Byron Bitz]

What did he do again? So many NHL culture problems going on or happened that it's all a blue . Honest question though, because I can't remember. Was this the racist bully?

He was getting head from a girl and took a picture and shared in with his boys.

 

[HaNotsri]

So much misinformation..... he is not a convicted sex offender, he wasn't even charged with a sex crime. It was offensive photography and defamation, also it was a picture not a video.

He's a convicted sex offender in Sweden. We go by swedish law, not canadian or whatever.

 

[jmelm]

I’m happy for both the player and as a sign to our society that we don’t need to condemn people forever for one negative act, which he seems to have genuinely atoned for and put in a lot of work off the ice.

People trying to put this guy into a category of a registered sex offender or pedophile is both disgusting and just plain stupid & lazy thinking. People need to be able to distinguish between the very wide variety of offences & crimes that exist.

 

[amnesiac]

Spread child pornography (recorded and spread video of oral sex with minor). He's a convicted sex offender in Sweden.

The sex was consensual but the recording and distribution was not.

way to get your facts wrong

 

[Canadienna]

He's a convicted sex offender in Sweden. We go by swedish law, not canadian or whatever.

You claimed he was spreading child pornography. Are you going to admit you made that up?

 

[beowulf]

He's a convicted sex offender in Sweden. We go by swedish law, not canadian or whatever.

That's not exactly true. When judging a crime you also have to look at the country you are going to and not just the country the offence happened in. For example, impaired driving is taken and punished much more seriously in the Canada than US. So if you have a DUI or multiple DUIs in the US you could be barred from entering Canada as an example if you are not a Canadian citizen or PR.

 

[LemonSauceD]

I find it quite hilarious that a country who’s age of consent is 15 (Sweden) would charge him with a serious sexual crime for distributing pics of a legal 18 year old while he was still a minor himself. Yes, what he did was absolutely wrong, but context matters, he did not sexually assault or physically abuse this girl. He did not commit a crime against a legal child. But in their eyes, he’s a sex offending monster. Meanwhile, any adult can go ahead and screw a 15 year old and call it a day.

I hope he’s learned his lesson though. There’s still a victim in all this, but he had his work laid out for him to amend and he put his head down and did just that. Let him move on.

 

[beowulf]

I find it quite hilarious that a country who’s age of consent is 15 (Sweden) would charge him with a serious sexual crime for distributing pics of a legal 18 year old while he was still a minor himself. Yes, what he did was absolutely wrong, but context matters, he did not sexually assault or abuse this girl. He did not commit a crime against a legal child. But in their eyes, he’s a sex offending monster. Meanwhile, any adult can go ahead and screw a 15 year old and call it a day.

I hope he’s learned his lesson though. There’s still a victim in all this, but he had his work laid out for him to amend and he put his head down and did just that. Let him move on.

Ya you are making it much more simplistic than it is.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Dont worry Habs fans. Hughes knows what he's doing. He's just locking down an asset he can use to fleece Ken "gimme all the domestic abusers/sex offenders" Holland in a trade. Already bent him over with the Nurse contract. He could probs be used to extract something good out of the Oilers system like Holloway or Broberg or Bourgault.

 

[HaNotsri]

You claimed he was spreading child pornography. Are you going to admit you made that up?

Nope since that's what he did according to swedish law. He would have received a prison sentence if he was older. A swede of the same age would have received lengthy community service but they figured he would just leave the country so ended up just being fined. Still a sex offender though. No idea why people have trouble accepting that.

 

[Canadienna]

Nope since that's what he did according to swedish law. He would have received a prison sentence if he was older. A swede of the same age would have received lengthy community service but they figured he would just leave the country so ended up just being fined. Still a sex offender though. No idea why people have trouble accepting that.

Who was the child here? He was a minor, and the woman in question was not.

So again, child pornography? Care to elaborate?

 

[Fordy]

it's time to move on and stop obsessing over teenagers behaving badly years in the past

 

[LemonSauceD]

Ya you are making it much more simplistic than it is.

I’m just stating facts of the matter. In Canada at least, there’s no punishable crime, as she was a legal adult. Obviously, he’d be still known as a piece of shit and it doesn’t change the course of action, he still would have faced all the repercussions. Make no mistake, sharing nudes of someone without their consent is a reprehensible act.

It becomes much more simpler though when the guy who committed these acts was a minor, and not an adult. There are programs, councillors, and people designed to straighten delinquent youths up, and as far as I’m aware he was put into one of these programs, as again in all this, there’s still a victim, and no matter the age of the perpetrator, there needs to be repercussions for such actions.

If this was a grown adult we are talking about, the whole dynamic of this would change considerably.

 

[Cenzo_]

Why would I have to lay out the road to that? The burden is on him. Has the victim acknowledged he has actually given an effective apology and atonement? Last I saw she received a meager text message and did not feel he has earned her acceptance.

In the meantime he’s faced no real consequence— he’s drafted and he still gets his money after playing 12 games. That’s privilege.

He was banned from the OHL for a full calendar year had to follow an education program, spent the last 5 month close to the Montreal Organization to provide a proper assessment of his character to the new management. He was drafted in June 2021 and signed a contract 16 month later. Canadian 1st draft picks usually are signed a few month after the draft, he had to prove himself that he was worthy of the contract.

What other consequences should he have received? Banned from the sport for life? You don't think he lived through shame and suffered some consequence during that period?

 

[MXD]

I’m just stating facts of the matter. In Canada at least, there’s no punishable crime, as she was a legal adult. Obviously, he’d be still known as a piece of shit and it doesn’t change the course of action, he still would have faced all the repercussions. Make no mistake, sharing nudes of someone without their consent is a reprehensible act.

- He wouldn't, because he was a minor.
- Again, things that were signficantly worse got covered (being from Hull we're kinda well placed to know this).

 

[HaNotsri]

Who was the child here? He was a minor, and the woman in question was not.

So again, child pornography? Care to elaborate?

My bad! First reports in Sweden said the girl was seventeen. Corrected my original post. He's still a sex offender though and anyone that pulls the same shit he did would now be sent to prison even if they do it at a young age.

 

[beowulf]

I’m just stating facts of the matter. In Canada at least, there’s no punishable crime, as she was a legal adult. Obviously, he’d be still known as a piece of shit and it doesn’t change the course of action, he still would have faced all the repercussions. Make no mistake, sharing nudes of someone without their consent is a reprehensible act.

It becomes much more simpler though when the guy who committed these acts was a minor, and not an adult. There are programs, councillors, and people designed to straighten delinquent youths up, and as far as I’m aware he was put into one of these programs, as again in all this, there’s still a victim, and no matter the age of the perpetrator, there needs to be repercussions for such actions.

If this was a grown adult we are talking about, the whole dynamic of this would change considerably.

There is indeed a law in Canada for such an offence.

look up Criminal Code 162.1(1),

• 162.1 (1) Everyone who knowingly publishes, distributes, transmits, sells, makes available or advertises an intimate image of a person knowing that the person depicted in the image did not give their consent to that conduct, or being reckless as to whether or not that person gave their consent to that conduct, is guilty
  • (a) of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years; or
  • (b) of an offence punishable on summary conviction
• • Definition of intimate image
    (2) In this section, intimate image means a visual recording of a person made by any means including a photographic, film or video recording,
    • (a) in which the person is nude, is exposing his or her genital organs or anal region or her breasts or is engaged in explicit sexual activity;
    • (b) in respect of which, at the time of the recording, there were circumstances that gave rise to a reasonable expectation of privacy; and
    • (c) in respect of which the person depicted retains a reasonable expectation of privacy at the time the offence is committed.

 

[LemonSauceD]

- He wouldn't, because he was a minor.
- Again, things that were signficantly worse got covered (being from Hull we're kinda well placed to know this).

Among his peers, among people that know him, yes, he would still be considered a piece of shit. There’s a difference between being a piece of shit and being an evil monster.