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OT: MLB Thread XL: The Home Stretch

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JimmyG89 said:
He kills the Mets. Every time, he kills them. He took over for Chipper in that regard. Hated him too, but he was a fantastic player.



Matz is either off or not, and not too much in-between. He was dealing and never should have been pulled. The compounding issue is that they went to Lugo there. If he wanted 2 out of Lugo, that only accounts for the 7th and 8th. Was he planning on going to Diaz after that? Not to mention, he could have sent Matz out to start the inning and Lugo could have been the 1st guy to come in if he needed help.

Let's not even mention that he could have gone to another reliever there too. Familia has been lights out for a while now and should start to get these kind of situations again. He did walk two last night, but he's getting there. Gsellman could have been called on too, if the concern was a lefty facing multiple power hitting RHH.

During the game, I didn't think it was a bad move to go to Lugo, but when it came out that it wasn't something that the team was preparing, regardless of score, and Lugo was rushed to warm up, you can't do that to the guy. Just send Matz out there until Lugo is ready. They could even have made Matz warm up, get set to face Donaldson, and then pulled him before he threw a pitch to give Lugo the extra time. Mismanagement of the game and misplaced trust that Diaz was going to get the job done in the 9th if they got there.
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Well again pitch count doesn't really mean anything. more relevant was in the 6th, Acuna, Albies and Freeman all made hard contact and just happened to hit them at Lagares and Conforto. 3rd time through the order effect, you start getting hit harder and he was...

it's pretty simple, you just took the lead, you bring in your best reliever to protect it.
 
My urge to get MLB TV to follow the team to the end of the season kind of died with these two games in Atlanta.
 
SA16 said:
Bringing in Lugo is pretty obviously the right decision there.

Letting Matz hit is also pretty obviously the wrong decision.

But I also don't think his logic is inconsistent at all. He was fine letting Matz remain in the game while they were still losing but once they unexpectedly took the lead he wanted to bring in his best guy. And Lugo, one time through the order, coming in to start against two righties has a far better chance than Matz does against them his third time through.
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why is that the right move though? aside from it was in the pre-game script that you should be happy to get 5 or 6 from matz and then go to lugo for 2 innings in the 7th?
 
Leetch3 said:
why is that the right move though? aside from it was in the pre-game script that you should be happy to get 5 or 6 from matz and then go to lugo for 2 innings in the 7th?
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Because Lugo is a better pitcher in an all out one or two inning situation than Matz - even more so when facing mostly righties - and even more so when Matz has already faced those hitters twice.
 
Did Lugo have enough time to warm up? Sounds like Mickey didn't even think of pulling Matz until halfway through the top of the inning.

“We had the best reliever in baseball sitting down there in Seth Lugo,” Callaway said. “He’s been doing the job for a month-and-a-half, Matzy is running around the bases and we’ve got Donaldson coming up, [Adam] Duvall coming up and I will make that move 100 times out of 100. That’s the right move in my mind.”
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Also, Mickey might have thought it was the 8th inning.

Asked about the risk-reward of hoping for three innings of clean bullpen work against the first-place Braves, Callaway answered, “Lugo is our best reliever, he’s been our best pitcher overall lately, so the reward is he puts up two zeroes, you win the game.’’
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Let Metz start the inning and pull him if he gets in trouble and go to Lugo. The Mets bullpen is thin as it is. Why use a bullpen arm when you don't have to yet?
 
OK..I forgot about last night and I forgot about Tuesday. Mets need to win tonight in the worst way. I'd go as far as to say that tonight is a "must win" otherwise I'm afraid things can spin out of control again.

Bottom line is if your a good team and have designs of being a WC, you don't get swept...simple as that....you figure out a way to get the W...whatever it takes. Stromen needs to pitch better than he has. No 3 run implosions tonight. You do your job and keep your team in the game.

If this happens and Mets win, they get out of Atlanta feeling a little better about themselves and head to KC knowing you just went 3-3 vs Nats and Braves. Let's do this....ya gotta believe!
 
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Nice start...Panik I notice is contributing as I was hoping he would getting some dink and dunk hits. You gotta pounce on Tehran here...
 
Despite the record with the “Opener” it has not been smooth sailing when you dig deeper and look at the numbers.

I hate the idea of an opener. Hate it. Green is so hit or miss every time out. Even when he doesnt give up runs its still a stress test. He hasnt been the same pitcher as he was two year ago.

Please God let Severino bounce back so we dont have to see Green open games. Even if its Severino only giving 4 strong innings.

Green is just a disappointment imo
 
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Nice to see the Mets respond to the challenge tonight. Sure it helps that Tehran sucked but hey...we'll take it.

Still a long way to go and Stromen doesn't exactly look unhittable...I'm thinking Mets need about 10 runs to be safe...lol
 
Maximus said:
Nice to see the Mets respond to the challenge tonight. Sure it helps that Tehran sucked but hey...we'll take it.

Still a long way to go and Stromen doesn't exactly look unhittable...I'm thinking Mets need about 10 runs to be safe...lol
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Normally we can never hit Tehran
 
Leetch3 said:
Normally we can never hit Tehran
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This is true. Whatever it is...we'll take it gladly. Tehran looked poor from the very first pitch.

We need Stromen to get into at least the 5th or 6th and I'll feel better. We are into the Braves pen so I anticipate we'll be scoring some more runs.
 
Sonny Gray had his no-no broken up in the 5th. Just quietly, his ERA is now below 3.
 
Friggen broken glove cost us an out there. Can't make this shit up.

Mets will score at least 10 runs tonight. Question is will the Mets bullpen hold off the Braves seeing Stromen isn't lasting much longer.
 
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