Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LXXXV: Halfway to Christmas

[Beef Invictus]

Calgary being angry makes me happy

 

[Curufinwe]

Martin Jones snapped up while Kadri waits for a deal.

 

[deadhead]

Clearly an AV guy and not a Fletcher guy.

Wait a second, I thought he was Fletcher trash.
But now that Zito signs him, does he become Gold?

Or in a more realistic world, an AHL+ player who can help out as a short-term injury call-up?
Like say Hodgson? Or Brooks? Or . . .

Martin Jones snapped up while Kadri waits for a deal.

Kadri can get a deal anytime, once he accepts the whole league thinks his great season was a fluke.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Wait a second, I thought he was Fletcher trash.
But now that Zito signs him, does he become Gold?

Or in a more realistic world, an AHL+ player who can help out as a short-term injury call-up?
Like say Hodgson? Or Brooks? Or . . .


Kadri can get a deal anytime, once he accepts the whole league thinks his great season was a fluke.

You mean another guy other teams seem to value that was given away for free by Fletcher? That's what you want to point at?

Giving guys away for free is good management and not a mistake?

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Lou getting the natives in NY restless too.

Take solace in the fact you’re not the Flyers Islander fans.

 

[landsbergfan]

Take solace in the fact you’re not the Flyers Islander fans.

Who is that???

 

[Magua]

Wait a second, I thought he was Fletcher trash.
But now that Zito signs him, does he become Gold?

Your deflecting motivation here is translucent. Who the hell cares about a 2-way, 1 year contract? It’s an AHL move. You’re also ignoring the Chuck Fletcher speciality of always giving these guys 2 year contracts, sometimes with weird 1-way, 2-way splits.

I’d rather have Mayhew on the Flyers roster all next season for minimum than 1 year of Deslauriers at $1.75MM, I can tell you that much. Let alone 4 years. What a GM.

 

[Striiker]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

 

[RANKKA]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

looks like there is no UFAs left

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

I think free agency is taking Kessel to Flavortown.

 

[Curufinwe]

Friedman says CBJ were going hard on Kadri till JG fell into their laps. Added Badbranson because they were getting pushed around and needed a protector for their kids.

I'm not sure what they will do to get Laine signed. Presumably he wants at least $8m.

 

[GKJ]

Backstrom LTIR

 

[FLYguy3911]

No clue if he's right but Ray Ferraro was saying the difference between the Calgary contract and the Columbus contract is like 2 million in take home pay.

 

[Larry44]

Saw this article and interview with Rich Peverley, Dallas' director of player personnel. What an intelligent guy and what a great approach. And what great prospects Dallas has..... I'm as green as their jerseys with envy.

Development camp kicks off important stretch for Wyatt Johnston | Dallas Stars

The 2021 first-round pick is nursing a minor back injury, so he and the Stars are playing it safe by keeping him off the ice for the first day of on-ice sessions

www.nhl.com

 

[CerpinTaxt]

Saw this article and interview with Rich Peverley, Dallas' director of player personnel. What an intelligent guy and what a great approach. And what great prospects Dallas has..... I'm as green as their jerseys with envy.

Development camp kicks off important stretch for Wyatt Johnston | Dallas Stars

The 2021 first-round pick is nursing a minor back injury, so he and the Stars are playing it safe by keeping him off the ice for the first day of on-ice sessions

www.nhl.com

Rich Peverley is canon

 

[TheKingPin]

I kind of like the Oilers odds next year to maybe conference finals it if they can finish highly in the regular season.

 

[kudymen]

If losing Mayhew is somehow supposed to make people feel better about Chuck Fletcher after making a Braun-Connauton-Lindblombuyout-notGadreau splash in FA, someone is out of his f***ing mind.

 

[Sombastate]

I really don't understand the Oscar thing. Like it doesn't make anything that comes close to sense.

 

[deadhead]

You mean another guy other teams seem to value that was given away for free by Fletcher? That's what you want to point at?

Giving guys away for free is good management and not a mistake?

Gee, I don't remember you signing Mayhew's praises at any point. Is this a conversion by sword point?

 

[kudymen]

Using Mayhew's departure as a piece of evidence for anything after the FA debacle and other moves over the past month is just embarassing and pathetic.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Who is that???

Islander fans think they have it bad because Lou didn’t do anything. They are still better than the Flyers

 

[deadhead]

Your deflecting motivation here is translucent. Who the hell cares about a 2-way, 1 year contract? It’s an AHL move. You’re also ignoring the Chuck Fletcher speciality of always giving these guys 2 year contracts, sometimes with weird 1-way, 2-way splits.

I’d rather have Mayhew on the Flyers roster all next season for minimum than 1 year of Deslauriers at $1.75MM, I can tell you that much. Let alone 4 years. What a GM.

No deflecting, just laughing at fools who want to use this as an example of giving away assets for free, an "asset" they derided all last season.

There are real mistakes to focus on, Deslauriers, Lindblom, Risto, the inability to decide to "fish or cut bait," without having to turn every transaction into a cause celebre.

Then there are decisions that we can reasonably disagree over, gambling on Ellis (injury history did not include hip or groin), gambling on two years on TDA (verifiable head case who is also an elite offensive defenseman), whether anyone would give sufficiently more value for G (a 34 year old rental who is no longer elite).

And there are decisions that were driven by circumstance, they never sign Hayes without Holmgren's mandate to win now combined with Patrick being damaged goods. AV's contract dicated him returning a 3rd season, which meant Voracek and Ghost were goners.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Gee, I don't remember you signing Mayhew's praises at any point. Is this a conversion by sword point?

Mayhew isn't great. But they had a hot commodity that a competent GM could have sold. Fletcher failed. Fletcher always fails.

Perhaps the most ridiculous thing is that Fletcher's big forward signing is somehow a player worse than Mayhew. I think that's ridiculous, but typical of born failures who don't deserve their careers and only hold them because they were ejaculated from a certain person.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Never seen so many mid-round draft picks sign their ELCs so soon. Guess it is for CHL purposes for some.

 

[Tripod]

Deslauriers type money