Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LXXXV: Halfway to Christmas

[landsbergfan]

I get the injury history and all that, but trying to trade 1 x $7 of Pacioretty for 5 x $5 of Reilly Smith is a bit of a choice

 

[Curufinwe]

Didn't realize MaxPac was PPG the past two seasons.

88P in 87 GP

Not as durable as our lovable lug JVR, though

 

[mja]

So much for Giroux wanting to pursue a cup and all the talk he wants to be in Florida.

Florida can't fit him under the cap. If they could, he'd probably have been happy to stay there. His decision-making has been and is being driven as much by family concerns as by anything else (i.e. money, cup). His wife and two young kids got a nice stay in Florida, and now they're going back home to Ottawa. He gets to be near his family and friends on a young team trending upwards with some dynamic talent, one that could well make some noise in the next few years.

 

[kudymen]

Florida can't fit him under the cap. If they could, he'd probably have been happy to stay there. His decision-making has been and is being driven as much by family concerns as by anything else (i.e. money, cup). His wife and two young kids got a nice stay in Florida, and now they're going back home to Ottawa. He gets to be near his family and friends on a young team trending upwards with some dynamic talent, one that could well make some noise in the next few years.

That guy is still angry that he asked "Who ever said Giroux was chasing a Cup?" and got a post-trade interview quoting Giroux "I am chasing the Cup, thats why I am here" in response.

 

[SergeConstantin74]

QMJHL related but didn't know where to post :

Gagné becomes assistant coach and advisor to the general manager with the Quebec Remparts.

 

[Cody Webster]

So much for Giroux wanting to pursue a cup and all the talk he wants to be in Florida.

Hey, Ottawa has a much brighter future than the Flyers...they'll have a good chance at making the playoffs this year

 

[Curufinwe]

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Florida can't fit him under the cap. If they could, he'd probably have been happy to stay there. His decision-making has been and is being driven as much by family concerns as by anything else (i.e. money, cup). His wife and two young kids got a nice stay in Florida, and now they're going back home to Ottawa. He gets to be near his family and friends on a young team trending upwards with some dynamic talent, one that could well make some noise in the next few years.

If he wanted to make it work he would. I agree winning doesn't mean as much to him.

 

[mja]

QMJHL related but didn't know where to post :

Gagné becomes assistant coach and advisor to the general manager with the Quebec Remparts.

I got my start on Hockey's Future by following Gagne as a prospect on the Remparts after the Flyers drafted him. Where does the time go?

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Hey, Ottawa has a much brighter future than the Flyers...they'll have a good chance at making the playoffs this year

They do indeed. Doesn't change anything I said.

 

[pit]

Stutzle, Tkachuk, DeBrincat, Giroux, Norris, Batherson, Chabot

Thats a significantly better core than the Flyers lol

Dorion is just a lucky GM?

 

[mja]

If he wanted to make it work he would. I agree winning doesn't mean as much to him.

Huh?

He's not taking 1 mill a year on a 1 year deal to make it work. That would be completely asinine, much like your take. I mean, how dare he consider the impact to his family's day-to-day and their longterm finances over slightly improving his chances to win a trophy?

Ottawa is a good balance, quite frankly. They have the room to offer him a reasonable contract, he gets to go home with his young family, and he's on a young team set to be competitive in the near future. Win-win-win.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Huh?

He's not taking 1 mill a year on a 1 year deal to make it work. That would be completely asinine, much like your take. I mean, how dare he consider the impact to his family's day-to-day and their longterm finances over slightly improving his chances to win a trophy?

Ottawa is a good balance, quite frankly. They have the room to offer him a reasonable contract, he gets to go home with his young family, and he's on a young team set to be competitive in the near future. Win-win-win.

who said anything about 1 year 1 million? Thought he said Philly was home? He has his whole life in front of him. Why is it so hard to belive he could careless about winning a cup?

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

That's the most fun outcome. The Sens will be an enjoyable watch. I hope Melnyk's exit was all they needed.

The Sens have been fun for a couple of years now (I only started really paying attention when the Canadian Division was a thing and they were on cable TV in Canada on the regular).

They now have a pretty damn good top 6. Might only be a piece or two from being truly competitive, but unfortunately stuck in a division with 4 top quality opponents.

 

[Flyerfan18]

So much for Giroux wanting to pursue a cup and all the talk he wants to be in Florida.

Giroux went home. He’s got a young family. Respect and understand that. He got paid top dollar at his age to do it as well.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Giroux went home. He’s got a young family. Respect and understand that. He got paid top dollar at his age to do it as well.

Don't care. He is comfortable in a non winning environment.

Love the young family argument. Even a better reason to go to a contender, while they are young.

 

[Flyerfan18]

Don't care. He is comfortable in a non winning environment.

Love the young family argument. Even a better reason to go to a contender, while they are young.

Well my best guess is 80 per cent of the players are comfortable in a non winning environment. They all want to win it all but when the 7th defensemen and extra forward pulls in 750k to over a million per year life is pretty comfortable in general.

The game has changed. It’s not a game anymore it’s a business for the players.

 

[ellja3]

Well my best guess is 80 per cent of the players are comfortable in a non winning environment. They all want to win it all but when the 7th defensemen and extra forward pulls in 750k to over a million per year life is pretty comfortable in general.

The game has changed. It’s not a game anymore it’s a business for the players.

Funny you mention this right now when we have some Latvian players signing for KHL teams and essentially being classified as traitors.

 

[Flyerfan18]

Funny you mention this right now when we have some Latvian players signing for KHL teams and essentially being classified as traitors.

Sorry but was does this have to do with the NHL?

 

[ellja3]

Sorry but was does this have to do with the NHL?

My bad, not much.

 

[Flyerfan18]

My bad, not much.

Didn’t notice your location at first. It’s got to be a little different living so close to conflict. But I get what you were saying now about the Latvian players. They are trying to make a living but have to weigh that with where they are going

 

[Flyerfan18]

So Vegas gives Paciorety to Carolina for free. Interesting

 

[wankstifier]

Carolina’s making moves.

Is Coghlan any good?

 

[Magua]

Carolina is so good at this it’s scary. Even the rare unsuccessful move doesn’t sink them because they take other teams to the cleaners so regularly at the pro and amateur level. And they never panic. Truly the mirror image to the Flyers.

 

[Beef Invictus]

who said anything about 1 year 1 million? Thought he said Philly was home? He has his whole life in front of him. Why is it so hard to belive he could careless about winning a cup?

Philly was home until Fletcher refused to have him.