Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LXXXV: Halfway to Christmas

[wankstifier]

Calgary probably should've traded Gaudreau after 2020-2021 if he wasn't willing to sign an extension.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Panthers offered Giroux 1yr , 1 mill per Lebrun on overdrive lol

Their cap is a mess

That's like a Fletcher contract offer

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Mother of god.

I forgot that accumulating assets and cap space is a weapon. What a fit he’d be for that team. I can’t even imagine what his RFA rights would cost. Short of their untouchables, everything should be on the table. Holtz, Nemec, picks. If they want to get it done, they have the stuff. Did you factor in Bratt’s contract? I group him with the untouchables.

Napkin math was Bratt + Tkachuk + Gaudreau takes roughly their cap space (27 MM). It would likely lose them 2 of their RFA Forwards (Zacha, Boqvist, Wood). That’s sure as hell not stopping me.

Dougie makes basically half of their entire D corps budget by himself. And most of the rest of it are 3 and 4 MM expirers in Severson and Graves. Obviously you’d want to keep Severson, but they have ways to get leaner wherever they prefer.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Look at this UFA D crop this year. Risto would have cleaned up tomorrow. His mindset really is a perfect fit for this team.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Yeah I could have sworn Carolina was offering a sign & trade with Hamilton for that 8th year. That was the way to get around it but obviously they don’t really happen in the NHL.

 

[tictactoe]

is Gaudreau worth 11?

 

[Curufinwe]

LeBrun needs to brush up on the old rule book.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Yeah I could have sworn Carolina was offering a sign & trade with Hamilton for that 8th year. That was the way to get around it but obviously they don’t really happen in the NHL.

That wouldn’t be trading his rights though that would be trading him. Teams should try to do that more often though. NHL lagging behind.

I would like to hear if Treliving mentioned the eight years or was responding to someone asking about that or if it’s just added by Pierre.

 

[Curufinwe]

We know that trading for a player’s rights does not let you give them an 8 year deal.

We know that because Kevin Hayes has a 7 year contract.

 

[deadhead]

Look at this UFA D crop this year. Risto would have cleaned up tomorrow. His mindset really is a perfect fit for this team.

Which his agent probably had already determined.

People get it wrong, Fletcher doesn't overpay, he just pays for the wrong players.

But look at Hextall, 6x$5M for Rakell at 29, after trading a 2nd, Simon, Auston-Reese at the TDL, 6x$6.1M for Letang at 35, doesn't QO Heinen (who I'd target at the right price) and is going to let Malkin walk.

GMs make the worst decisions when they're trying to open windows or keep them from closing.

 

[flyerslducks]

We know that trading for a player’s rights does not let you give them an 8 year deal.

We know that because Kevin Hayes has a 7 year contract.

thank god for that lol

 

[Angry Hockey Dad]

Gaudreau is fantastic and I would love him on my team. But the contract is going to be ugly.

 

[Tripod]

Fascinated to see what happens to Tkachuk, in need of a contract. You have to wonder if him signing long term was contingent on Gaudreau.

All the talk up here is he is no going to re-sign in Calgary long term

 

[freakydallas13]

Traded to the Sens. Sens get rid of a terrible goalie only to get a better one for less. The exact opposite of peak Chuck

Valley Chuck.

 

[flyerslducks]

palat testing FA as well. Interested to see where he goes

 

[GKJ]

palat testing FA as well. Interested to see where he goes

Detroit

 

[FLYguy3911]

 

[Kelmitchell2]

Another 35+ contract that could bite them in the ass lol

 

[Magua]

I don't really understand the complaining about Pittsburgh's contracts. They won their 3 Cups with this crew; they're still good enough to win a round or two, unlike Chicago's old core in recent years. Unless you go full tear down (which they won't with Crosby signed for 3 years), ride off into the sunset with still decent hockey. The Penguins on the 16th hole of their current era are still better than anything the Flyers have done since 2010. It's just legacy building at this point, so it's okay to approach it with that perspective -- the 35+ stuff just seems manageable at worst.

 

[Rebels57]

I don't really understand the complaining about Pittsburgh's contracts. They won their 3 Cups with this crew; they're still good enough to win a round or two, unlike Chicago's old core in recent years. Unless you go full tear down (which they won't with Crosby signed for 3 years), ride off into the sunset with still decent hockey. The Penguins on the 16th hole of their current era are still better than anything the Flyers have done since 2010. It's just legacy building at this point, so it's okay to approach it with that perspective. The 35+ stuff just seems irrelevant.

Not to mention Malkin 36-38 will be far better than Hayes at 30 and for $1 million less lol

 

[Magua]

Not to mention Malkin 36-38 will be far better than Hayes at 30 and for $1 million less lol

Yeah, we're not dealing with low-tier former stars. Malkin is one of the best few players of his generation, and he has aged as such. He's not in free fall, despite injuries. He can still over-perform much of that contract, and no one can say with a straight face Pittsburgh should've done anything but re-sign him.

 

[ponder719]

palat testing FA as well. Interested to see where he goes

I'm not ruling out Calgary. They have some big names to resign, yes, but they did just lose Gaudreau, and Palat would go a long way towards easing that sting.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Gaudreau is fantastic and I would love him on my team. But the contract is going to be ugly.

I have nothing against Gaudreau, he's a great player, but the Flyers signing him now is not good for this team atm

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Yeah, we're not dealing with low-tier former stars. Malkin is one of the best few players of his generation, and he has aged as such. He's not in free fall, despite injuries. He can still over-perform much of that contract, and no one can say with a straight face Pittsburgh should've done anything but re-sign him.

It’s just not even close how much better of a GM Hextall is than Fletcher.

My God. He got Letang and Malkin for 12.2 AAV

That’s nuts, even if they’re old. This is their last shot at a Cup and they know it. They’re going for it.

Just be ready for Hextall to add Lindblom tomorrow.