Minnesota Wild General Discussion - 2023-24

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Russo notably saying they could try to trade Rossi this offseason…
At this point I hope they trade him. The way they're handling him has been a scandal to be honest. On this team, Nobody gets a demotion but Rossi and for what? For being one of the best 5vs5 scorers on the team & the second best rookie forward in the league. Give me a f***ing break.
 
Did you hear a recent interview where he said this? Because in The Athletic, the only thing he said is that this would be unlikely at the TDL would not typically the time to make this kind of trade. And IF they were going to move him, it would be a summer trade. He did say that the Wild may not yet be ready to commit long term to Rossi, just yet.

I think it would be stupid to trade him. They should sign him to a bridge deal after next season and re-evaluate.

Marco Rossi​

Doubtful. He’s in the midst of a quality rookie season, and while we’re still not convinced the Wild are ready to commit to him long-term or that he won’t be traded this offseason, the trade deadline is not typically the time to trade a young asset like this.

That’s a summer move.

Rossi has another year left on his entry-level contract. That’s a bargain price to see if he can do it again.
He very notably did not include him in the won’t be moved and even said he’s not convinced he won’t be traded.
 
Pre knee injury, i'd say he was better, but let's not romanticize what he was. Tough, but little, with average speed ... a 4th liner, and not a great one because of his limitations. Who knows how much the knee operation (4th?) has affected him. He isn't even close to being as fast as Duhaime, and, as willing as he is, 5'9", 180, is not going to hit like 6'2", 205. It's not like Shaw is a puck wizard, either.


I don't think anyone wants Merrill.
I'll try not to, but I loved him then and I love him even more now. :laugh:

He was definitely slower than Duhaime, but while Shaw wasn't blazing, his skating was just agile and quick enough to push the pace. He's not a wizard, but he's got enough skill to be a threat each game if he's playing limited minutes. Duhaime is bigger and faster, but he's less skilled. Both are aggressive and physical.

They're both good 4th liners, IMO. If Duhaime cost $300k less and was an RFA, I wouldn't be advocating for trading him.

He very notably did not include him in the won’t be moved and even said he’s not convinced he won’t be traded.
Yuck.
 
Russo notably saying they could try to trade Rossi this offseason…
I don't like it, but he could be an appealing chip to try to pull the sort of talented young center that we've been after for years.

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I don't like it, but he could be an appealing chip to try to pull the sort of talented young center that we've been after for years.

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We don’t have the money to pay one though because we decided Foligno needed top 6 money…
 
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Apparently Vancouver might be interested, didn’t seem like a strong possibility though

Saw they're also very interested in Duhaime

Duhaime+Merrill to Vancouver for future considerations (to get out of Merrill's contract next year 100%)
 
They're not going to trade Rossi on his ELC. Next year, when 2nd contract demands come into play and more prospects are in the system maybe.
 
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They're not going to trade Rossi on his ELC. Next year, when 2nd contract demands come into play and more prospects are in the system maybe.

Probably, but I wouldn't rule it out. They traded Addison after signing him for 825k. I don't think money has to factor in if they just don't see a fit with the player (which could be very real given Hynes legitimately just played him with AHLers for multiple games), and see something else they like better.
 
I don't think Rossi gets traded. Why would they do that? Makes no sense to me.

Lots of things management does don't make sense to me. If Guerin feels like he doesn't love Rossi's game and doesn't want to pay him, he could swap him for something he does love, without it making any sense to us. He's shown a willingness to move on from younger guys because they aren't the type of player he likes, or he doesn't want to pay them what he thinks they'll get.

And given he's been playing with AHL players in fourth line minutes, combined with the idea that Guerin extended Gaudreau for 5 years and went out and drafted Stramel because they had no faith in Rossi last season, it's not a big leap to think they could still have little faith in him and try to sell "high" this summer for a piece that fits Guerin/Hynes' style of play better.
 
We don’t have the money to pay one though because we decided Foligno needed top 6 money…
I should probably be clear that I'm being facetious.

The whole notion of trading Rossi is weird. Obviously the usual "for the right deal any player is available" crap applies, but that's never what drives this talk. It's usually management getting squeamish about commitment, which sounds to (potentially) be the case here.

I won't convict Guerin based on a rumor, but it's not a deviation from the trend if those UFA extensions last summer were an overcorrection to Rossi's season not going how they'd expected.

It's an annoying possibility that is annoyingly plausible. Can't they get squeamish about committing to stiffs like Goligoski once in a while?
 
He very notably did not include him in the won’t be moved and even said he’s not convinced he won’t be traded.
I like how you conveniently left out that he’s under the category “Unlikely to Trade Now” in the article along with Jake Middleton and Filip Gustavsson.

And then immediately after Rossi, we have Johansson in the "not going anywhere" category just to rub salt in the wound.
Johansson has a full no move clause.
 
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I like how you conveniently left out that he’s under the category “Unlikely to Trade Now” in the article along with Jake Middleton and Filip Gustavsson.

The gist of the Rossi talk was very much, "not likely to trade now (at the deadline), but could be revisisted in the summer, not convinced the Wild are ready to commit to him". I do not understand how interpreting that to mean the Wild could potentially look to move him in the summer is so offensive.
 
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Rossi is still under contract for next season. Why would they even need to have an internal debate right now? I think he's had a pretty damn good rookie season, let's see how much he builds off that next season. We could always qualify him for another season or sign him to a bridge deal. Doesn't even make sense to be thinking about long term commitments at this point.

Am I wrong?
 
I like how you conveniently left out that he’s under the category “Unlikely to Trade Now” in the article along with Jake Middleton and Filip Gustavsson.


Johansson has a full no move clause.

Hey man, facts don’t matter. The only thing that matters is speculation and the wild reactions towards said speculation. You should know this by now.
 
After last year's Rossi I was ready to move on from him. But this year's version is everything I could hope for. And he is probably only going to get better. Of course no one knows for sure, but he has shown he's willing to put in the work to make it happen and I respect that very much.
So I hope he gets a decent chance on the home stretch of this season and then stays here.
 
Rossi is still under contract for next season. Why would they even need to have an internal debate right now? I think he's had a pretty damn good rookie season, let's see how much he builds off that next season. We could always qualify him for another season or sign him to a bridge deal. Doesn't even make sense to be thinking about long term commitments at this point.

Am I wrong?

You're not wrong, now tell me if this is wrong:

I don't think money has to factor in if they just don't see a fit with the player and see something else they like better.
If Guerin feels like he doesn't love Rossi's game and doesn't want to pay him, he could swap him for something he does love, without it making any sense to us. He's shown a willingness to move on from younger guys because they aren't the type of player he likes, or he doesn't want to pay them what he thinks they'll get.

And given he's been playing with AHL players in fourth line minutes, combined with the idea that Guerin extended Gaudreau for 5 years and went out and drafted Stramel because they had no faith in Rossi last season, it's not a big leap to think they could still have little faith in him and try to sell "high" this summer for a piece that fits Guerin/Hynes' style of play better.
 
I like how you conveniently left out that he’s under the category “Unlikely to Trade Now” in the article along with Jake Middleton and Filip Gustavsson.


Johansson has a full no move clause.
Didn’t leave that part out. I posted the whole expert. It should be notable alone that he’s group with Gustavsson and Middleton, not KK, Ek, Boldy, Faber, Brodinc, Mojo, Hartman, Zucc. But he literally said he’s not convinced Rossi isn’t traded this summer…
 
I don't think Rossi gets traded. Why would they do that? Makes no sense to me.
One scenario that could possibly play out….
IF the Wild see Yurov and Ek as their two top 6 C’s, Khusnutdinov as an eventual 3C. If, for some reason, they don’t like Rossi as a wing, maybe they look to move him for a future top 6 wing, or future top 4 D.
 
You're not wrong, now tell me if this is wrong:

You're not wrong.....but I fail to see how BG could have little faith in Rossi based on what we've seen this season. His first showing in the NHL, he looked tentative and seemed intimidated by the speed and size of the NHL. I'm not seeing that this season. So I would think that it would be a "big leap" for BG to have the same opinion of Rossi this season compared to last season.

Fundamentally, I'm not opposed to moving him for the right price. But I honestly don't know what the return would be, since I haven't really given it any thought since I think the likelihood of trading him this summer is extremely remote.
 
Rossi is still under contract for next season. Why would they even need to have an internal debate right now? I think he's had a pretty damn good rookie season, let's see how much he builds off that next season. We could always qualify him for another season or sign him to a bridge deal. Doesn't even make sense to be thinking about long term commitments at this point.

Am I wrong?
I haven't read/heard whatever's coming out of Russo, but it sounds like another one of his "reads" on where management's head is at. Whatever one thinks about Russo's intuition about this stuff, it's entirely possible that management's approaching it about the way you describe.

It's one of those ideas that gets stuck in your craw more than it should due to circumstance: Rossi's had a very good season and has mostly been rewarded with some uh... dubious opportunities in terms of lines and usage. It's easy to get paranoid about that being a reflection of how management thinks/talks about him internally, even if there isn't much reason to think so.
 
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